Mac to SMU???

meangreenlax · March 22, 2022

15 minutes ago, CMJ said:

we should commit seppuku.

Don’t tempt me with a good time

UNTLifer · March 22, 2022

2 hours ago, RiseUNT said:

If Mac goes to SMU how do we act in 2023-24 when he comes to the super pit?

If he goes, you boo him out of the gym after we whip their ass.

Edited March 22, 2022 by UNTLifer

GMG_Dallas · March 22, 2022

28 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

McCasland is the kind of guy that might also run off some of your better returning performers in order to get his guys in. We were all shocked when AJ Lawson left in year 1 of McCasland, followed by Mo Gibson the next year.
Would SMU faithful be as patient with McCasland if he happened to run off a returning stud like Zhuric Phelps with his "coach your hard, love you harder" philosophy (getting chewed-out for a mistake, mid-court during a game)? I don't know if they would.

SMU is losing virtually ALL of their top producing players, btw. Unless they backfill with some serious transfers, they're going to have a rough time next season, even if they hired zombie Wooden.

Yup. Which is where my "(roster...)" part comes in. It's starting over from scratch.

26 minutes ago, SMU2006 said:

With our multi-pronged NIL groups coordinating together and the transfer portal I'm not concerned in the least with being able to put a quality roster on the court next season.

No disrespect, but this shows a lack of understanding for the type of coach Grant is. He is tough on his guys. He really digs into them and some players don't like to be handled that way. If my memory serves me right, he and a player practically had to be separated in a game this year. I don't think he'd be successful with a team of NIL bought highschool all-americans who think they're the coolest thing since sliced bread. If that's your (SMU's) expectation, you're not going to be happy with the result. UNT has the underdog mentality down to the last Super Pit employee. Pampered athletes who feel they're above the HC won't work with him. Not saying that's who you have now, but that's what you'll get throwing money at top athletes to come to your school.

Edited March 22, 2022 by GMG_Dallas

SMU2006 · March 22, 2022

1 minute ago, GMG_Dallas said:

Yup. Which is where my "(roster...)" part comes in. It's starting over from scratch.

No disrespect, but this shows a lack of understanding for the type of coach Grant is. He is tough on his guys. He really digs into them and some players don't like to be handled that way. If my memory serves me right, he and a player practically had to be separated in a game this year. I don't think he'd be successful with a team of NIL bought highschool all-americans who think they're the coolest thing since sliced bread. If that's your (SMU's) expectation, you're not going to be happy with the result. UNT has the underdog mentality down to the Super Pit employee. Pampered athletes who feel they're above the HC won't work with him. Not saying that's who you have now, but that's what you'll get throwing money at top athletes to come to your school.

No disrespect taken! That's an interesting take.

At the end of the day NIL is going to be the coin of the realm for revenue sports in college athletics. Coaches are going to have to adapt to it just like administrators, fans, and players.

NorthTexasWeLove · March 22, 2022

40 minutes ago, texx2818 said:

It’s a P5, with chances for a natty. AAC is not. He took a promotion for a chance at making his legacy in the CFP.

AAC has done well, athletically, to put them in position to compete for actual national championships. Cincy in football this year, UH making the final 4 last year and another deep run this year. Granted, I get they are leaving, but the point is that the AAC administrators positioned that conference very well for national relevance.

tmjerm · March 22, 2022

Don't go work for Mr. Potter, Mac!

MeanGreenGlory · March 22, 2022

20 minutes ago, SMU2006 said:

FYI I think this is wrapped up in the next 24 hours.

FWIW, @SMU2006:

If you're right about all this, I'll be very sad to lose McCasland and know that the news will only fuel the rivalry between SMU and UNT...

But I'll also have great respect and appreciation for you getting on this board and shooting us straight with the info you had from your sources.

Jonnyeagle · March 22, 2022

26 minutes ago, SMU2006 said:

I mean its legal now. We were just 30-odd years or so ahead of the curve!

Hey I don’t always agree but do respect you coming on here and sharing your thoughts @SMU2006

UNTLifer · March 22, 2022

6 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:

Hey I don’t always agree but do respect you coming on here and sharing your thoughts @SMU2006

Nope. What is the point of coming over here? To gloat? I don't recall spending a day on Arkansas State's board when we hired McCasland away. F smu.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · March 22, 2022

It’s a public forum, that’s gonna happen.

bstnsportsfan3 · March 22, 2022

I will have no problem booing McCasland harder then any coach I ever have if he goes to SMU.

Edited March 22, 2022 by bstnsportsfan3

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · March 22, 2022

10 minutes ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

I will have no problem booing McCasland harder then any coach I ever have if he goes to SMU.

Beard vs Adams type atmosphere, minus death threats, I would assume?

Talk about intense! I would want a badass pregame hype video to go with it

GMG_Dallas · March 22, 2022

15 minutes ago, SMU2006 said:

No disrespect taken! That's an interesting take.

At the end of the day NIL is going to be the coin of the realm for revenue sports in college athletics. Coaches are going to have to adapt to it just like administrators, fans, and players.

To an extent. Not every program has the means to pay their players unless those programs and their conferences get a bigger piece of the NCAA TV deal pie. Grant doesn't seem like the type of guy to care about your NIL money or how big of a recruit you are and he won't put up with nonsense regardless. This is a former walk-on. People talk about it as the great comeback Cinderella story but they don't consider the mindset that comes along with that story. Big money NIL doesnt exactly scream underdog story. This would be square peg, round hole. I won't be surprised if he goes but I'll be surprised if he finds more success at SMU than he has here.

southsideguy · March 22, 2022

Mac has not said he is staying at UNT so anything is possible.

Brett Vito · March 22, 2022

CMJ · March 22, 2022

5 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

Mac has not said he is staying at UNT so anything is possible.

It'd be possible even if he had. Coaches promise they're staying and then leave all the time. I'm not saying he's is or isn't, but some comment he did or didn't make a few days ago isn't gonna keep him from taking a new gig if a bank vault is opened up.

NT80 · March 22, 2022

1 hour ago, SMU2006 said:

FYI I think this is wrapped up in the next 24 hours.

...or Not!

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Coach Andy Mac · March 22, 2022

Tom McKrackin · March 22, 2022

Sad day indeed!

Edited March 22, 2022 by Coach Andy Mac

FirefightnRick · March 22, 2022

Jank wouldn’t cheat, which he told the Smu brain trust during his interview prior to leaving Illinois State in ‘12.

In fact, he didn’t even want the job but agreed to the interview out of respect to coach Larry Brown. He had taken the Cards to five straight post conference MoValley tournament championship games and felt they were on the cusp of a trip to the dance and was very happy there. But the smu money bags in the room had been told by LB that Jank was his first choice for assistant head coach and they refused to take no for an answer, throwing around assistant coach money numbers that was..”quite frankly embarrassing”. They money whipped Jank with life changing numbers a man with a family couldn’t say no to. In fact, they not only expected for Brown to eventually lead them to sanctions, they used that point to sweeten the deal with Jank ensuring that his contract would include an immediate salary takeover clause naming Jank head coach at Brown’s current salary should those events occur. And it did. And he was pressured every year to move closer and closer to skirting the rules and Jank refused.

And in this last year of his contract he was notified that if he didn’t make the NCAA Tournament he would not be renewed after this season.

This is why, among several other reasons Mac won’t be taking the smu job. He may leave, but he won’t be pressured into risk blowing a lifetime spent building a quality, healthy reputation to cheat.

Rick

Edited March 22, 2022 by FirefightnRick

2020 Sucks · March 22, 2022

If grant leaves, Hodge has to be a slam dunk hire. (Pun intended). I’m not worried and I’d never boo Grant. He has my utmost respect.

Wag Tag · March 22, 2022

Hate to loose him, but the $1.4m buyout will help. I would not hire Ross right away, wait and see what pops up. Wren supposedly always keeps a list of potentials.

El Paso Eagle · March 22, 2022

13 minutes ago, texx2818 said:

I do respect the fact that per latest rumors, SMU better “pony up” per se if they want his services. At least he won’t come cheap and wants to get generational wealth.

Would always respect him for what he did here, but he understands the feelings towards SMU. He goes there and all gloves are off as far as booing/voicing displeasure from our fan base.

Edited March 22, 2022 by El Paso Eagle

UNTLifer · March 22, 2022

42 minutes ago, Tom McKrackin said:

Sad day indeed!

Why?

UNTLifer · March 22, 2022

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

If he goes, you boo him out of the gym after we whip their ass.

And when he stays, you give the man a standing ovation. I love McCasland and how he represents our university, and because of his character, I expect him to stay here and sign a well deserved extension.