A message from Dr. Neal Smatresk

Skipper · February 22, 2022

LongJim · February 23, 2022

I think his remarks were thoughtful and rational. In fact, I'd say his is a much better and more open-minded viewpoint than those that several spineless leaders of universities across the country have taken during the past couple of years.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · February 24, 2022

UNT students think Neal is a country hick who leans conservative because he won't reprimand YCT UNT

UNTLifer · February 24, 2022

13 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

UNT students think Neal is a country hick who leans conservative because he won't reprimand YCT UNT

Who is YCT and why would they be reprimanded?

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · February 24, 2022

3 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Who is YCT and why would they be reprimanded?

YCT is called Young Conservatives of Texas, and they have been in some controversy with the liberal UNT students on things like masks, in person classes, COVID, abortion, transgender laws etc.

They want them gone for hate speech and such, but like most millennials, they started a petition and are trying to protest YCT UNT so the university can do something about it/shut them down.

UNTLifer · February 24, 2022

2 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

YCT is called Young Conservatives of Texas, and they have been in some controversy with the liberal UNT students on things like masks, in person classes, COVID, abortion, transgender laws etc.

They want them gone for hate speech and such, but like most millennials, they started a petition and are trying to protest YCT UNT so the university can do something about it/shut them down.

Thank you. I shall remain silent.

Quoner · February 24, 2022

1 hour ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

YCT is called Young Conservatives of Texas, and they have been in some controversy with the liberal UNT students on things like masks, in person classes, COVID, abortion, transgender laws etc.

They want them gone for hate speech and such, but like most millennials, they started a petition and are trying to protest YCT UNT so the university can do something about it/shut them down.

I had no idea we had so many current students born between 1981 and 1996.

Pavlovs Eagle · February 25, 2022

5 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

but like most millennials...

The oldest "millennials" could reasonably have their own children as students at UNT.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · February 25, 2022

I guess you call UNT students now, GenZ. Miswording on my end!!

UNTcrazy727 · February 25, 2022

22 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

YCT is called Young Conservatives of Texas, and they have been in some controversy with the liberal UNT students on things like masks, in person classes, COVID, abortion, transgender laws etc.

They want them gone for hate speech and such, but like most millennials, they started a petition and are trying to protest YCT UNT so the university can do something about it/shut them down.

To be fair to the students who want YCT gone...it's an absolute garbage organization that gives conservatives a bad name.

untbowler · March 1, 2022

On 2/24/2022 at 3:22 PM, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

YCT is called Young Conservatives of Texas, and they have been in some controversy with the liberal UNT students on things like masks, in person classes, COVID, abortion, transgender laws etc.

They want them gone for hate speech and such, but like most millennials, they started a petition and are trying to protest YCT UNT so the university can do something about it/shut them down.

so they want them gone because of "speech that they hate" not "hate speech"

Honestly they should let them speak and let the campus and world make their own decisions on how nutty they truly are, that's the reason I do not want to censor CNN or MSNBC or even FOX.

Tired of group think pushing their own agendas, bunch of sheep following on both sides of the aisle.

untbowler · March 3, 2022

now seeing video, I gotta love the lefty students shouting over a father/speaker with regards to gender transition, by yelling "F*ck You Facists". Yeah real classy, but hey it allowed them get their 5 secs of fame while shouting down a father who lost their child. Yet they want to call out the CYT. The voice for tolerance showing their intolerance to anything they disagree with it.

ColoradoEagle · March 4, 2022

17 hours ago, untbowler said:

The voice for tolerance showing their intolerance to anything they disagree with it.

greenminer · March 4, 2022

A 100% tolerant society cannot co-exist with an intolerant subset. Discuss.

TheColonyEagle · March 4, 2022

If one group doesn't agree with another group, why don't they say "why" they're wrong, state their case and convince people to see their side?

El Paso Eagle · March 4, 2022

49 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

If one group doesn't agree with another group, why don't they say "why" they're wrong, state their case and convince people to see their side?

Seems that some groups (from both sides) believe in their causes so blindly that they feel it is beneath them to need to discuss and explain "why" because those that oppose their points of view are not enlightened enough to understand anyway, or they just prefer to accuse the opposing person or group of being some type of phobic in hopes it will stir up public backlash.

ColoradoEagle · March 4, 2022

1 hour ago, TheColonyEagle said:

If one group doesn't agree with another group, why don't they say "why" they're wrong, state their case and convince people to see their side?

Had a long typed out reply that rambled too much for my taste.

I'm not going to debate someone who's racist, homophobic, transphobic, classist, and/or ignorant (not referring to you, saying in general). I'm sure there are ways of changing some peoples' minds on those types of things, and props to the people who have that level of patience...I'm just not one of them.

MeanGreenTeeth · March 5, 2022

So.. as I understand it.. a speaker who had a position that 5 years ago 95% of people would have agreed with (and I would guess a strong majority still do), that minors shouldn't be getting sex change surgeries, is deemed as having an intolerant view by UNT's President? Am I understanding his statement correctly?

Edited March 5, 2022 by MeanGreenTeeth

GMG_Dallas · March 5, 2022

15 hours ago, TheColonyEagle said:

If one group doesn't agree with another group, why don't they say "why" they're wrong, state their case and convince people to see their side?

14 hours ago, ColoradoEagle said:

Had a long typed out reply that rambled too much for my taste.

I'm not going to debate someone who's racist, homophobic, transphobic, classist, and/or ignorant (not referring to you, saying in general). I'm sure there are ways of changing some peoples' minds on those types of things, and props to the people who have that level of patience...I'm just not one of them.

This response from ColoradoEagle is everything you need to know about why we can't have civilized discussions. People like that believe anybody who disagrees with them is racist, classist, homophobic, etc... because of differences in opinion and feels like those who disagree with them are beneath them.

So, in short, somebody like me who is a child of immigrants, first generation college student, grew up with a single mother below the poverty line, hispanic, and who's dad suffers from mental health and was in-and-out of my life growing up because of it would be labeled as racist, classist, and everything else because of a difference of opinion which I have based on personal experience.

Members of the left have a sense of superiority and anybody who disagrees is ignorant and therefore inferior and unworthy of their time. If you meet criteria of a minority category and disagree with them, you just don't know better.

Edited March 5, 2022 by GMG_Dallas

TheColonyEagle · March 5, 2022

14 hours ago, ColoradoEagle said:

Had a long typed out reply that rambled too much for my taste.

I'm not going to debate someone who's racist, homophobic, transphobic, classist, and/or ignorant (not referring to you, saying in general). I'm sure there are ways of changing some peoples' minds on those types of things, and props to the people who have that level of patience...I'm just not one of them.

Is there anyone you disagree with that’s not racist, homophobic, transphobic, classist and/or ignorant? Is that our only option? What about those people?

xyresic · March 5, 2022

YCT has a lawsuit against the school and is being guided by various conservative organizations on how to work the system to their advantage. The schools legal team can’t boot them because they are intentionally instigating things while pushing boundaries between free speech and hate speech.

Just wanted to give some background so people understand the school isn’t backing YCT at all it’s just attempting to follow legal guidance in what amounts to a lose/lose situation where both sides are drawing attention with no rational conversation occurring.

Coffee and TV · March 5, 2022

The persecution fetish is strong in this thread.

ColoradoEagle · March 5, 2022

6 hours ago, GMG_Dallas said:

This response from ColoradoEagle is everything you need to know about why we can't have civilized discussions. People like that believe anybody who disagrees with them is racist, classist, homophobic, etc... because of differences in opinion and feels like those who disagree with them are beneath them.

So you felt compelled to lash out in a superior, uncivilized way because you perceived my statement about not engaging with hateful people as applying to you? Might be time for some soul searching.

5 hours ago, TheColonyEagle said:

Is there anyone you disagree with that’s not racist, homophobic, transphobic, classist and/or ignorant? Is that our only option? What about those people?

Plenty. Again, if you took this to apply to you personally, maybe you should look inward.

Edited March 5, 2022 by ColoradoEagle

TheColonyEagle · March 5, 2022

15 minutes ago, ColoradoEagle said:

Plenty. Again, if you took this to apply to you personally, maybe you should look inward.

Why would you assume I applied it to me personally? Didn’t think my question led to that. In no way did I take that as applying to me.

I’m glad to see that you WOULD discuss with someone I just don’t know how you can decide who is racist, transphobic, etc and who is not.

Edited March 5, 2022 by TheColonyEagle

TheColonyEagle · March 5, 2022

On 3/1/2022 at 9:40 AM, untbowler said:

so they want them gone because of "speech that they hate" not "hate speech"

Honestly they should let them speak and let the campus and world make their own decisions on how nutty they truly are, that's the reason I do not want to censor CNN or MSNBC or even FOX.

Yeah I don’t know why that’s so difficult.