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5 minutes ago, MGNation92 said:

I don't think anyone is questioning Clements' coaching ability. He's a hell of an OL coach.

Oh, I wasn't questioning someone questioning the hire. I personally like your take

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Mike Bloesch, a former O-Line player, who's only coached O-Line at the collegiate level, is now our QB coach. Absolute joke of a head coach. Who in their right mind does this? "Hey Coach, I

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10 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

I defer to those more knowledgeable than I am, but…

How are we certain Bloesch won’t be good for our QB’s?  

Because he, himself is an offensive lineman, and has only coached offensive line during his career.

It's kinda like the Passwaters thing.    Just woefully underqualified for such a role.    We're a FBS program, not some NAIA school.

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2 hours ago, MGNation92 said:

Mike Bloesch, a former O-Line player, who's only coached O-Line at the collegiate level, is now our QB coach.

Absolute joke of a head coach. Who in their right mind does this?

"Hey Coach, I know you're really good at teaching kickslides and hand placement for blocking. Now you're gonna teach high-low progressions and how to throw the football from various angles"

This is actually more common than you think.  Jeff Lebby spent years as an O-line coach, then as a RB coach, before he ever coached QBs.

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36 minutes ago, Glory to the Green said:

I defer to those more knowledgeable than I am, but…

How are we certain Bloesch won’t be good for our QB’s?  

He has been the OC for two seasons - they have been under his guidance. We need a QB coach who understands techniques and development. This would be like taking a RB or DB coach and tell them you are now the kicking coach.  This position should be a "specialist"

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This news tells me that Seth & Co. will continue the ground and pound approach that resulted in a 5-1 record over the last 6 games of the season. Long gone are the days of teeing it high and letting it fly. I bet Coach Cobbs is chomping at the bit for this coming season.  

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This all makes sense, we are going to run the ball and the quarterbacks coach is now going to emphasize handing the ball off.  See, teaching the quarterbacks the best way to HAND off the ball, no throwing required, just use your hands........

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3 hours ago, Mean Green 93-98 said:

This is actually more common than you think.  Jeff Lebby spent years as an O-line coach, then as a RB coach, before he ever coached QBs.

With three straight years though of declining completion percentage don’t you think it would be better to get a known commodity at QB coach?

If I were WB.  This would be far beyond the last straw.  I will be asking myself what do we need Seth for?  Why wasn’t he named QB Coach after 2 straight years of decline since he was already on staff?  At this point I would want to see how Tommy Mainord would fair in 2022.  If he shows something you could be more frugal with his 2023-2026 contact years.   A quality new coach with options at the end of 2022 is going to want the best financial security UNT can offer.  It is a dumpster fire and a head coach hasn’t been hired away from here since 1980.  A cheap young unknown coach is not an option here there is too much negative momentum to ask him to turn around.

While I was fat checking my 1980 comment the name Jerry Moore came up.  He seems to have done pretty well after he left.  My question is was he considered or pursued when Matt Simon and/or Daryl Dickey were hired?  It appears to be a perfect timeline Appalachian state was still more than a decade away from playing FBS football.  Does anyone in the form know  Or have a strong hunch.

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5 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Because he, himself is an offensive lineman, and has only coached offensive line during his career.

It's kinda like the Passwaters thing.    Just woefully underqualified for such a role.    We're a FBS program, not some NAIA school.

I can see that. I just can’t see how SL would put all of this trust into an unproven QB coach.  Unless he’s of the “a good coach is a good coach” mentality.  

Man, that’s a lot of faith in Bloesch. 

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2 hours ago, Glory to the Green said:

Man, that’s a lot of faith in Bloesch. 

I don’t think it’s faith. Faith would be giving up a chunk of your salary so the Department could pay a guy with good track record to potentially save your job.  Seth should negotiated leaving for 1/2 the buyout money so he could get on another staff and rehab his reputation as an Offensive coach.  He is trying to have a somewhat respectable season without a 5 game losing streak.  It all about hunkering down, and squeezing the maximum out of all the resources that are in his comfort zone.  Seth could have delegated some of his offensive oversight to others and threw himself into correcting the QB situation the past 3 years.  He doesn’t have a feel for the position or what kind of QB really meshes with his style.  He wants to throw the ball around but really unless he has a great former QB on staff that can coach he can’t teach the QB’s how to execute it.  A Jaylen Hurts type would do well here with the average number attempts per game slightly under 30 and really great instinctive running.  But Seth wants a better passer cause if you can’t show P5 teams you can develop good passer they won’t be interested in you as  head coach candidate with an offensive background.  

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The coaching world is replete with coaches that are coaching something different than what they played in college or even high school.  I believe that Mike Bloesch is a good coach who can adapt to wherever he is assigned.  He knows the offense that we have been running and I believe that he will study the quarterback position and become even better than last year when he was .500 during the regular season as the OC.  Remember, he even called the plays.  

 

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On 1/28/2022 at 10:43 AM, untjim1995 said:

I know you are newer around here, but you'll come to realize that there is a reason that 2% of the UNT Alumni, students, and faculty ever give back to the athletic program. The city doesn't care at all and almost all of the student body doesn't either. They care when we play SMU here, but that's because they've heard of them and know people from the Hilltop. After that, it goes back to 12k in attendance or less for FCS Spares and CUSA games.

Leadership here cares about one huge thing from sports at UNT--don't cost us money. Always has been, always will. 

And most likely, just like everyone else does except the diehards on here, the P5 giant of your choice will become "your" team or your allegiance will be solely with the pro teams here in DFW. It's what always happens because Denton's culture is completely apathetic to our existence, which leads to the students not caring, their parents not caring, and makes leadership more emboldened to put very little effort into winning. And as we have seen in the last 50 years, we have had 2 coaches who have made winning here possible--Fry in football in the 70s and McCasland no in hoops here in the 20s. And our attendance in both cases to support that winning was basically the exact same as it has been for epic losing under spares like Dennis Parker, Todd Dodge, Vic Trilli, and Tony Benford.

In the end, running on known costs means you lose out on every level of opportunity. It cannot change here without a change in the culture. And I haven't figured out yet how you convince people who don't care or loathe your existence to completely change their minds. Because winning hasn't done it here, having a personable coach hasn't done it, and playing in a conference with regional opponents hasn't done it. Its just one of those things you learn to accept...

I always argued that the root of our problems (athletically) has been the historic North Texas Administrative culture.  You seem to be suggesting that it is a Denton community culture problem. So, which is it? The North Texas Administrators (pre-Jitter Nolan) establishing the apathetic culture at North Texas. Or did North Texas just naturally assimilate the Denton community apathetic culture?

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On 1/28/2022 at 6:41 PM, southsideguy said:

Cobbs better get the running backs in top shape because we will be running the ball a lot and most likely with everyone in the box with them.

Cobbs is going to get big $$$ soon from a P5 program. Someone is going to snatch him up. He has constantly had our RBs ready. 

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