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letsgiveacheer Rising Star

letsgiveacheer

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If college football, or any other sport, were pure capitalist ventures, we would only have a handful of teams to enjoy. The rest of us are textbook examples of good, old fashioned, socialism. 

Marx my words.

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BillySee58 Grand Master

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1 hour ago, MeanGreenPatriot said:

Apples and oranges. One is paid with company profits, one is paid with taxpayer money. 
 

since you didn’t answer, I assume you meant to say yes?

NIL deals are taxpayer money? I didn’t sign up for this!

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Censored by Laurie Grand Master

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16 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

NIL deals are taxpayer money? I didn’t sign up for this!

I actually think he was trying to make the point that scholarships are tax payer money...which, if you stretch it out far enough and squint your eyes, ok...sure. 

but then so are corporate subsidies and tax breaks.  not to mention federally financed infrastructure utilized by all US-based corporations.

so we actually still have an apples to apples comparison 

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UNTLifer Grand Master

UNTLifer

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1 minute ago, MeanGreenPatriot said:

 Hopefully you are being a jokester  

He and a few others on here only show up to stir the pot with those they share a differing view.

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MeanGreenPatriot Community Regular

MeanGreenPatriot

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23 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

I actually think he was trying to make the point that scholarships are tax payer money...which, if you stretch it out far enough and squint your eyes, ok...sure. 

but then so are corporate subsidies and tax breaks.  not to mention federally financed infrastructure utilized by all US-based corporations.

so we actually still have an apples to apples comparison 

I look at our corporate P&L on a daily basis. We receive tax breaks but still pay an outrageous amount of tax dollars. Back to apples to oranges.

 

UNTLifer Grand Master

UNTLifer

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1 minute ago, MeanGreenPatriot said:

I look at our corporate P&L on a daily basis. We receive tax breaks but still pay an outrageous amount of tax dollars. Back to apples to oranges.

 

Sssshhh.  You'll upset his liberal sensibilities.  

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BillySee58 Grand Master

BillySee58

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1 hour ago, Censored by Laurie said:

I actually think he was trying to make the point that scholarships are tax payer money...which, if you stretch it out far enough and squint your eyes, ok...sure. 

but then so are corporate subsidies and tax breaks.  not to mention federally financed infrastructure utilized by all US-based corporations.

so we actually still have an apples to apples comparison 

Right. But when he said one was taxpayer money (Scholarship plus NIL) and one was corporate profits (salary plus bonus) in response to you he was lumping the scholarship and NIL amounts together as taxpayer money.

Even if you grant scholarships as taxpayer money, the NIL deal comes from company profits. Which makes your example accurate, even before you lifted back the facade of companies only giving but not taking. The bonuses (NIL deal in example A, Cash performance bonus in example B) in both examples come from company profit.

I don’t see any actual argument here on why an athlete’s market should be capped at the arbitrary tuition/room and board set by the University.

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greenminer Grand Master

greenminer

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2 hours ago, MeanGreenPatriot said:

No, its called integrity. Something instilled in boot camp. 

I agree.

A year or so ago I put out a hypothetical (not on gmg.com) similar to this, asking something similar.  That if a cashier accidentally gave you the wrong change and it was more, and you had the opportunity to walk away without being caught, would you do it?  I was surprised how many people said they'd take it and walk.  Almost all of them had various ways of saying, "it's not my fault they gave the wrong change."

I think these athletes should follow through on whatever they sign up for.  Today I read about Marcus Williamson and his Tweets about Ohio State.  It makes me wonder if these guys don't know what they are signing up for.

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southsideguy Grand Master

southsideguy

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If you get a high school player and develop him and he becomes really good, he will be poached by a P-5 team.   I appreciate loyalty and all that but it now about the money.   If I had the talent and was young I would like to think I would be loyal but to get paid well and go to college that would be hard thing to turn down.   

I don't know if there is way to level the field anymore, I think college football as we remember it is on the way out  the door.  Not sure I will like the NFL-lite version.  How long until it makes it to the high schools?  It think my days of being a college football fan might be numbered.  

Just hard to get excited about your team when you know they will be poached.  With fewer players in basketball I hate to see what they will be getting paid.

 

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