DRC: Littrell, Baker will receive bonuses for bowl appearance

[Brett Vito]

 

[MeanGreen4Life1998]

What a joke!

[Censored by Laurie]

you're the best, Brett.

reporting pretty standard contract incentives for coaches and ADs right this group has worked itself into peak-lather.

a beautiful little twist of the knife. ah, poetry. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

[southsideguy]

How SL could accept that check I will never know............

[untjim1995]

11 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

How SL could accept that check I will never know............

I’m sure you’re the one, but 99.99999999% don’t turn down money they earned in their contract that their employer willingly gave them.

[southsideguy]

first I would be shocked that someone would give me a bonus for being 500 at best.  

[Side.Show.Joe]

Contracts are contracts. Can't get mad about it. But it certainly isn't the UNT football related news I was hoping for today.

Hey Brett, how about you interview Wren and ask him to address the growing fan outrage and apathy due to Littrell continuing to be our football coach? Our Frisco Bowl attendance sucked. Our season attendance was down again (16,669 per game). And I doubt MGSF donations are up. I'd love to read Wren's plan to improve these numbers when a growing number of the fans he needs no longer support Littrell remaining our coach. That would be an article I'd love to read.

[RBP79]

17 minutes ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

Contracts are contracts. Can't get mad about it. But it certainly isn't the UNT football related news I was hoping for today.

Hey Brett, how about you interview Wren and ask him to address the growing fan outrage and apathy due to Littrell continuing to be our football coach? Our Frisco Bowl attendance sucked. Our season attendance was down again (16,669 per game). And I doubt MGSF donations are up. I'd love to read Wren's plan to improve these numbers when a growing number of the fans he needs no longer support Littrell remaining our coach. That would be an article I'd love to read.

This right here Mr. Vito!!!

But that not what today's Journalism does.

Edited December 28, 2021 by RBP79

[Cr1028]

2 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

you're the best, Brett.

reporting pretty standard contract incentives for coaches and ADs right this group has worked itself into peak-lather.

a beautiful little twist of the knife. ah, poetry. 

 

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Could not agree more.

[MeanGreen4Life1998]

2 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

you're the best, Brett.

reporting pretty standard contract incentives for coaches and ADs right this group has worked itself into peak-lather.

a beautiful little twist of the knife. ah, poetry. 

Standard contract incentives when he should be getting fired..

[Mean Green Matt]

If people are upset about this they should probably be blaming the North Texas official that signed the contract. 

[p_phelps]

I'm going to just start saying I graduated from Cincinnati so I can root for a good program.  This is terrible 

[Venson]

What he and WB should do is split that money between Phil Bennett and Patrick Cobbs. They seemed to be the only ones coaching this year. 

[Mean Green Matt]

15 minutes ago, p_phelps said:

I'm going to just start saying I graduated from Cincinnati so I can root for a good program.  This is terrible 

This will, unfortunately, never bring you true fulfillment. 

[jtm0097]

[NT80]

1 hour ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

Hey Brett, how about you interview Wren and ask him to address the growing fan outrage and apathy due to Littrell continuing to be our football coach? 

GOOD LUCK WAITING FOR THAT INTERVIEW QUESTION TO EVER BE ASKED...

[Salsa_Verde]

Good for you Seth 😐

[greenjoe]

I wonder how much a bowl win pays ?

[Censored by Laurie]

2 hours ago, MeanGreen4Life1998 said:

Standard contract incentives when he should be getting fired..

maybe some of you have just never worked on contracts...

1. making a bowl, no matter the result, would've activated an incentive. 
2. I'm assuming there are two incentives...A. making a bowl / B. winning a bowl
3. moot, since Seth doesn't win bowl games...so just cause A legally requires payment

all of this would be completely unrelated to whether the AD wants to terminate (and of course, payout/arbitrate any contractually obligated future payments)

now, if you, all emotionally frail and out for blood, want the AD to fire Seth AND not fulfill contracts...well, I would love to see the caliber of replacement hire you think you'll attract. 

[NT80]

7 minutes ago, greenjoe said:

I wonder how much a bowl win pays ?

That clause was never needed in Seth's contract. 🙁

[Pseudo Nym]

5 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

you're the best, Brett.

reporting pretty standard contract incentives for coaches and ADs right this group has worked itself into peak-lather.

a beautiful little twist of the knife. ah, poetry. 

👏 I've resisted trashing Vito for years and thought it was about to end with this doozy of a post.... THANK YOU!!!!! 👏

The "peak-lather" to top it off had me like:

[Salsa_Verde]

3 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

maybe some of you have just never worked on contracts...

1. making a bowl, no matter the result, would've activated an incentive. 
2. I'm assuming there are two incentives...A. making a bowl / B. winning a bowl
3. moot, since Seth doesn't win bowl games...so just cause A legally requires payment

all of this would be completely unrelated to whether the AD wants to terminate (and of course, payout/arbitrate any contractually obligated future payments)

now, if you, all emotionally frail and out for blood, want the AD to fire Seth AND not fulfill contracts...well, I would love to see the caliber of replacement hire you think you'll attract. 

Oh wow. Mr big time over here. Everyone that follows sports knows what incentives go into a contract, that’s not the issue. The issue is he has been getting paid extra for making a bowl game and then getting blown out every damn time. The fans see this as a hollow incentive. Twice SL has gone to a bowl game with a losing record and he barely made this one and again got worked. So you tell me… is that money well spent my man? 

Edited December 28, 2021 by Salsa_Verde

[Cr1028]

19 minutes ago, Salsa_Verde said:

Oh wow. Mr big time over here. Everyone that follows sports knows what incentives go into a contract, that’s not the issue. The issue is he has been getting paid extra for making a bowl game and then getting blown out every damn time. The fans see this as a hollow incentive. Twice SL has gone to a bowl game with a losing record and he barely made this one and again got worked. So you tell me… is that money well spent my man? 

It is in comparison to teams that don’t win enough games to make a bowl game appearance (even if by APR or extenuating circumstances). We were one of those teams every year from 2005 to 2015 except for a single glorious season. From 2016 to 2021, we only missed a bowl appearance in one season. Yes we’ve lost every one, and we should have one this year’s for sure, but it still beats the hell out of being the team whose season ends the Saturday after Thanksgiving every year.

[greenminer]

18 minutes ago, Salsa_Verde said:

Oh wow. Mr big time over here. Everyone that follows sports knows what incentives go into a contract, that’s not the issue. The issue is he has been getting paid extra for making a bowl game and then getting blown out every damn time. The fans see this as a hollow incentive. Twice SL has gone to a bowl game with a losing record and he barely made this one and again got worked. So you tell me… is that money well spent my man? 

Vito was not reporting the issue, he is reporting the contract incentive.  BV is probably laughing a little inside at how we were so predictably going to react to it.

This entire quoted post could be said directly to Vito, which was CBL's point.