Wichita State paid us 70K for that butt whipping

Jonnyeagle · December 19, 2021

Originally posted by SB Shock View Post

Is it really true WSU paid them $70,000 for the beatdown?

Link to State message board thread on NT contest: https://shockernet.net/forum/wichita-state-athletics/wichita-state-men-s-basketball/1323392-north-texas-at-wichita-state-game-thread-12-18-21#post1323787

southsideguy · December 19, 2021

They are not taking the loss to well. Now where is our check.

Jonnyeagle · December 19, 2021

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5 hours ago

This is the most embarrassed I've been as a Shocker fan in a very long time.

golfingomez · December 19, 2021

I got to say. Fun read. They've got done good posters over there

NT80 · December 19, 2021

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article256711377.html

UNTLifer · December 19, 2021

Smaller program. F'em.

Edited December 19, 2021 by UNTLifer

GrandGreen · December 19, 2021

Obviously, some of the Wichita fans and maybe administration are not aware enough to look at the program, that they have scheduled for a buy win game.

Anyone scheduling a McCasland NT team should be fully aware of what they are going to get.

Smaller program reference is not exactly accurate when comparing NT and Wichita State, an university that does not even have a football team.

Some fun stats:

Enrollment:

Witcita St 2021 16,069

UNT 2021 42,372

Metro area: population:

Witcita ks 452,000

DFW 7,600.000

State of Kansas 3,000,000

City population:

City of Witcita 398,556

Denton 147,957

Just thought our future conference mate's fan should be more aware of who they are referring to as smaller program.

Edited December 19, 2021 by GrandGreen

greenminer · December 19, 2021

26 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Obviously, some of the Wichita fans and maybe administration are not aware enough to look at the program, that they have scheduled for a buy win game.

Anyone scheduling a McCasland NT team should be fully aware of what they are going to get.

Smaller program reference is not exactly accurate when comparing NT and Wichita State, an university that does not even have a football team.

Some fun stats:

Enrollment:

Witcita St 2021 16,069

UNT 2021 42,372

Metro area: population:

Witcita ks 452,000

DFW 7,600.000

State of Kansas 3,000,000

City population:

City of Witcita 398,556

Denton 147,957

Just thought our future conference mate's fan should be more aware of who they are referring to as smaller program.

We are smaller in terms of coach salaries.

Brown will be paid $1 million for the 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons, $1.25 million for the 2023-24 and 2024-25 seasons and $1.5 million for the 2025-26 season

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article252970358.html

GrandGreen · December 20, 2021

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

We are smaller in terms of coach salaries.

Brown will be paid $1 million for the 2021-22 and 2022-23 seasons, $1.25 million for the 2023-24 and 2024-25 seasons and $1.5 million for the 2025-26 season

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/wichita-state/article252970358.html

I am sure their overall basketball budget dwarfs NT. That didn't seem to help them on the court.

greenminer · December 20, 2021

2 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

I am sure their overall basketball budget dwarfs NT. That didn't seem to help them on the court.

And our much larger enrollment had absolutely nothing to do with our win. What are you trying to explain? I was responding to their resources and the perception of their basketball brand vs. ours. When they are talking about "smaller" schools, I think that's how they are using the word.

Edited December 20, 2021 by greenminer

GrandGreen · December 20, 2021

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

And our much larger enrollment had absolutely nothing to do with our win. What are you trying to explain? I was responding to their resources and the perception of their basketball brand vs. ours. When they are talking about "smaller" schools, I think that's how they are using the word.

Smaller schools reference is obvious. They (WSU fans) think they are a superior basketball program. Hint, they aren't.

Fun facts, were just a dig at their fans' perception of WSU versus NT. Have no idea why you are concerned, particularly after bringing up coaches salaries as some kind of factor.

Edited December 20, 2021 by GrandGreen

greenminer · December 20, 2021

21 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Smaller schools reference is obvious. They (WSU fans) think they are a superior basketball program. Hint, they aren't.

Fun facts, were just a dig at their fans' perception of WSU versus NT. Have no idea why you are concerned, particularly after bringing up coaches salaries as some kind of factor.

We are as good of a team right now. You can acknowledge that, and still recognize that their brand/program is much bigger.

Attendance. Basketball budget. National perception.

Not concerned at all. Go Mean Green!

Edited December 20, 2021 by greenminer

NT80 · December 20, 2021

50 minutes ago, greenminer said:

.....their brand/program is much bigger.

Attendance. Basketball budget. National perception.

Not concerned at all. Go Mean Green!

Our brand and National perception will grow each time we beat one of these larger-brand teams.

Here is their history:

FINAL FOURS:
1965, 2013

NCAA Tournament:
1964, 1965, 1976, 1981, 1985, 1987, 1988, 2006, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2018

NIT Champs - 1 (2011)

AP Poll History of Wichita State:
Number of Times Ranked: 157
Number of Times Ranked #1: 1
Number of Times Top 5: 32 (Most Recent - 2017)
Number of Times Top 10: 73 (Most Recent - 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017)

Highest Recent AP Ranking:
#3 - Dec. 2017
#2 ~ March 2014

Highest Recent Coaches Poll Ranking:
#2 ~ March 2014
Finished 2013 Season #4

GrayEagle · December 20, 2021

Don't forget, we had travel expenses to Wichita and we paid to have their women come to Denton. There is also likely a large disparity between the attendance in Wichita and the attendance in Denton.

flyonthewall · December 20, 2021

I feel like they should have done some research into recent history. Us, we advanced to round of 32 in the NCAA TOURNAMENT LAST YEAR!!!!!! We are the back to back defending conference champions.

them, they lost to drake in the ncaa tournament last year as an 11 seed and a "first four" participant. If they thought for a second that this game was going to be a cakewalk then they were just well, delusional.

Hopefully this game will teach their team what it takes to win against possibly the best defensive team in college basketball. Much like us playing Buffalo, Kansas, Miami, Drake....Oh yeah, the same Drake that beat them in the tourney last year.

Look at our record the last two years at this point. Last year 5-5 and the year before, 4-6. Nowhere close to this and we have played better opponents this year. We are getting better every game.

This is setting up to be a great week of Mean Green Athletics.

Now, Who's next?!!!!!!

greenjoe · December 20, 2021

While Wichita State has a student population of about 16,000, they have a tradition of winning BB games. Also, Wichita Kansas is a city of over 400,000. If NT keeps winning and our fans start paying attention, maybe we will some day fill the Coliseum.

Beat Tulsa

GO MEAN GREEN

Edited December 20, 2021 by greenjoe

Mean Green Matt · December 20, 2021

4 minutes ago, greenjoe said:

While Wichita State has a student population of about 16,000, they have a tradition of winning BB games. Also, Wichita Kansas is a city of over 400,000. If NT keeps winning and our fans start paying attention, maybe we will some say fill the Coliseum.

Beat Tulsa

GO MEAN GREEN

I legitimately wonder what would happen to our attendance if we made it into the top 25 (not saying that will happen this year…not impossible but would probably require largely running the table in conference). Do we get up into the 7,000 to 8,000 range if that happens? Or does it largely remain unchanged.

drex · December 20, 2021

I have always maintained that if the Good Lord himself made an appearance at the Super Pit the place would not sell out.

NT80 · December 20, 2021

4 hours ago, greenjoe said:

While Wichita State has a student population of about 16,000, they have a tradition of winning BB games. Also, Wichita Kansas is a city of over 400,000. If NT keeps winning and our fans start paying attention, maybe we will some day fill the Coliseum.

Not much else to do in Wichita. Great attendance for basketball (8,000+ each game), which helps give them a huge home court advantage, thus many home wins. Interesting that it was lack of attendance that killed their football program.

All About UNT · December 21, 2021

On 12/18/2021 at 10:03 PM, Jonnyeagle said:

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This is the most embarrassed I've been as a Shocker fan in a very long time.

You would think that barely beating Jacksonville State at home might be a little more embarrassing than losing to the team that knocked off Purdue last year in the tourney.

Or maybe even losing to the powerhouse Louisiana Tech in 2018. I guess they just don't care to research their opponents.