So does Littrell stay now or what?

[Jonnyeagle]

I think it would be hard for Wren to cut the cord now.  But if he keeps him he becomes his.  Tough situation for Wren.

[drycreek]

HOPE HE STAYS---KEEPS HIM

[Green Lantern]

Let’s get a couple more threads going about this!

[golfingomez]

18 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:

I think it would be hard for Wren to cut the cord now.  But if he keeps him he becomes his.  Tough situation for Wren.

Hasn't eaten already extended his contact twice? If say he's been wrens guy for a while

[GrandGreen]

30 minutes ago, Jonnyeagle said:

I think it would be hard for Wren to cut the cord now.  But if he keeps him he becomes his.  Tough situation for Wren.

Not tough at all. Littrell will be here next year.   Time to cut all this anti-Littrell conversation.

Pending getting destroyed in the bowl game, Litterell has earned his next year as NT HC.

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

Yes obviously 

We are in a bowl game🤣

[TheColonyEagle]

He’s done just enough to tip the risk/reward scales of keeping him in his favor for one more year. 
 

He did something yesterday he has NEVER done. He beat a good team in a game with something on the line. Was it a fluke? Is it a sign of things to come?

Looks like he’s gonna get another year to prove it either way. And his schedule next year is MUCH easier than this year. The stars should be aligned for Littrell next season. 
 

I hope he’s for real. 
 

 

[ADLER]

I think Wren's position is that he evaluates every single one of his coaches after the end of their season. Has anyone known him to waver on this?

I believe Wren is brilliant in his capacity as Athletic Director, and he certainly has more riding on this than any of us. I'll support Wren's conclusion 100% with whatever he decides.

 

 

[Hunter Green]

1 hour ago, TheColonyEagle said:

He’s done just enough to tip the risk/reward scales of keeping him in his favor for one more year. 
 

He did something yesterday he has NEVER done. He beat a good team in a game with something on the line. Was it a fluke? Is it a sign of things to come?

Looks like he’s gonna get another year to prove it either way. And his schedule next year is MUCH easier than this year. The stars should be aligned for Littrell next season. 
 

I hope he’s for real. 
 

 

Seth was forced to adapt his offense from a stealth aircraft to a Buick sedan when he finally realized he didn't have a QB that could run what he wanted. He must have gone back and watched PC in his heyday and said..."well I'll be damned!"

[TheColonyEagle]

18 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:

Seth was forced to adapt his offense from a stealth aircraft to a Buick sedan when he finally realized he didn't have a QB that could run what he wanted. He must have gone back and watched PC in his heyday and said..."well I'll be damned!"

And that was a smart, ballsy move on his part. He recognized it was time to try something different.  We can all debate if he should’ve ever been in that position in the first place, but I have to give him credit on making that adjustment. Or maybe he didn’t feel his O Line was ready yet and it took time to gel. Who knows. But it worked. 

Edited November 28, 2021 by TheColonyEagle

[Salsa_Verde]

I’m not a SL guy by any means but if he wins a bowl game I would think he keeps his job for another season. I think right now I lean on him staying regardless of what happens in the bowl game. 

[Zeleny' Orel]

In my opinion, a major factor in the decision about retaining Seth may be determined by who Wren had determined is availabe (and interested in committing) as a replacement and whether or not he is considered a significant upgrade for our entry into the AAC.  The lack of success in the CUSA for 6 years can't be ignored when moving to a tougher conference.

[PlummMeanGreen]

1 hour ago, ADLER said:

I think Wren's position is that he evaluates every single one of his coaches after the end of their season. Has anyone known him to waver on this?

I believe Wren is brilliant in his capacity as Athletic Director, and he certainly has more riding on this than any of us. I'll support Wren's conclusion 100% with whatever he decides.

Yes.  
 

 Our university is still larger than any one person on its payroll.   Sitting & standing in the rain yesterday (for over 3 hours) was one of the most satisfying things I’ve experienced in 48 years of watching Mean Green football.  
 Haven’t seen so many happy people since Mason Fine’s “the Drive” & a Mean Green win over #20 ranked Purdue last March at the NCAA’s Big Dance.  
Yes, the steady rain kept the crowd away yesterday, but it didn’t dampen the spirits of anyone wearing every shade of green on & off the football field & across Texas with all who ever attended our school.

Edited November 28, 2021 by PlummMeanGreen

[RBP79]

Back when we were boiling the tar and raiding the chicken coops at 1 and 6...

I said he had to win out...including a bowl. But that was before UTSA was ranked I believe. 

Regardless....Seth made a statement for his cause yesterday.

[MrAlien]

I thought getting to 4 wins would secure his job for next season. 

Another issue, what happens next year if the program takes a step back, prior to going int to the 2023 season in the AAC?  A coaching change would impact recruiting and the transfer portal, I am not sure thats the best way to enter a new conference. 

[Mike Jackson]

6 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

Not tough at all. Littrell will be here next year.   Time to cut all this anti-Littrell conversation.

Pending getting destroyed in the bowl game, Litterell has earned his next year as NT HC.

No he has earn the right not to be fired mid-year.  Empty trophy case, 0.500 season, and a career record of one game over or below 0.500 depending on a bowl.   So are we supposed to be rationally optimistic  that year 7 will be anything but hovering around 0.500 with the last 2 games of the year meaningless in the pursuit of a division title?  The only reason this is a debate is that he is under contract already.  The only “anti-Littrell” talk her is just referencing his actual record.  All that “coach mumble” and sideline demeanor talk is just useless BS from frustrated fans.  A two thirds empty stadium to watch a 10-0 conference rival go down wasn’t what anyone hoped for 6 years ago when he was hired.

Edited November 29, 2021 by Mike Jackson

[Udomann]

14 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

No he has earn the right not to be fired mid-year.  Empty trophy case, 0.500 season, and a career record of one game over or below 0.500 depending on a bowl.   So actually believe that 6 years with a one game under 0.500 record earns a head coach something?    The only reason this is a debate is that he is under contract already.  The only “anti-Littrell” talk her is just referencing his actual record.  Al that “coach mumble” and sideline demeanor talk is just useless BS from frustrated.  A two thirds empty stadium to watch a 10-0 conference rival go down wasn’t what anyone hoped for 6 years ago when he was hired.

Its sunday. Lay off the sauce my friend. Spend it with family, not johnny walker.

[Mike Jackson]

6 hours ago, Jonnyeagle said:

I think it would be hard for Wren to cut the cord now.  But if he keeps him he becomes his.  Tough situation for Wren.

The only thing hard about it is the buyout.  The better G5 programs let’s a coach with this resume after 6 years go.  Especially if there aren’t a couple of 4-star recruits committed to the school based on thr coach’s reputation.  And one of those great recruits would need to be a QB.

[Mike Jackson]

13 minutes ago, Udomann said:

Its sunday. Lay off the sauce my friend. Spend it with family, not johnny walker.

So you have to be drunk to expect something better than 0.500 in year 6 without any conference championship or bowl wins? 🙄 I enjoy “not sucking” but just “not sucking” isn’t the standard here.  Hey maybe you are 100% right and I am a fool.  Maybe alumni who are sports fans that don’t come to the games know that “not sucking” is the standard here.  Playing spoiler to program that started in 2011 with a second year head coach is our high water mark?  To anyone without ties to UNT or deep knowledge of G5 football history that sounds pathetic.  Hell hand him another extension because he ain’t Todd Dodge while we are at it. 🙄

[shaft]

Can the admins just lock all coaching threads.  

[Udomann]

3 minutes ago, Mike Jackson said:

So you have to be drunk to expect something better than 0.500 in year 6 without any conference championship or bowl wins? 🙄 I enjoy “not sucking” but just “not sucking” isn’t the standard here.  Hey maybe you are 100% right and I am a fool.  Maybe alumni who are sports fans that don’t come to the games know that “not sucking” is the standard here.  Playing spoiler to program that started in 2011 with a second year head coach is our high water mark?  To anyone without ties to UNT or deep knowledge of G5 football history that sounds pathetic.  Hell hand him another extension because he ain’t Todd Dodge while we are at it. 🙄

Yeah. Kinda proving my point my friend. Go play a game. Relax. Your heart will thank you.

[TheColonyEagle]

10 minutes ago, shaft said:

Can the admins just lock all coaching threads.  

Lock coaching threads in late November/December? Why would the admins do something hurt their traffic like that? That’s like asking Amazon to not accept Christmas shoppers right now. 

[Jonnyeagle]

17 minutes ago, shaft said:

Can the admins just lock all coaching threads.  

Why exactly?

[MGNation92]

Based on historic results, we're gonna lose the bowl game by 4 TD's, so no I don't think he'll be back. He is not the coach to lead us into the AAC. Hell I wouldn't be surprised if Wren promised a new coach as part of the deal, or at least winning football. We are better off than we were, which is great. Now is the time to take the next step. Find the Grant McCasland of football and hit the ground running.

[shaft]

1 minute ago, Jonnyeagle said:

Why exactly?

Repetitive posts, by bad fans.  Many are the same dolts that clamored for Dodge years ago.