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What would it take for you to have Seth come back?

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What would it take for you to have Seth come back?  

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  1. 1. What needs to happed for Seth to come back?

    • Needs to win UTEP and FIU
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    • Needs to win FIU
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    • Needs to win UTEP, FIU and UTSA but can lose the bowl
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    • Needs to win UTEP, FIU, UTSA and the bowl game
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    • It makes no difference; he needs to go
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    • It makes no difference he needs to stay
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MrAlien
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Remember they have to pay him either way, so if they hire another coach then they would essentially be paying for 2 head coaches, not to mention what happens to the rest of the staff.   I think he has

Rudy
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When I saw the same old crap against $mut, I'm out,  The defense kept us in the game for a while, and the offense did what a Seth offense does.  Not a damn thing.  The same bullshit undisciplined pena

MeanGreenTexan
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I think this program's history is so awful that many of y'all's floors are just too low.   You're still thinking like it's still 'little ol' UNT' with a cobbled-together budget. Y'all.   THOSE DA

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I voted win out and the bowl game.  However if we get an opponent ranked in the top 20, play a very close competitive game and lose I would be okay with him coming back.  That wouldn’t be my preference though.  A division championship just doesn’t cut it as the only significant team achievement outside the classroom in a 5 year run.  (That is taking out the the Covid year).

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Rudy Grand Master

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When I saw the same old crap against $mut, I'm out,  The defense kept us in the game for a while, and the offense did what a Seth offense does.  Not a damn thing.  The same bullshit undisciplined penalties, terrible play calling, and never adjusting.  We caught lightning in a bottle, and its gone.  Seth really wanted that KSU job, and he was gutted when he didn't get it.  He's never recovered, and its at our expense.

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MrAlien Mentor

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Remember they have to pay him either way, so if they hire another coach then they would essentially be paying for 2 head coaches, not to mention what happens to the rest of the staff.   I think he has a decent shot at keeping his job based on that already, so unless they get blown out by UTEP or FIU I think he sticks around. 

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44 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

Remember they have to pay him either way, so if they hire another coach then they would essentially be paying for 2 head coaches, not to mention what happens to the rest of the staff.   I think he has a decent shot at keeping his job based on that already, so unless they get blown out by UTEP or FIU I think he sticks around. 

Seth and PB are probably the only two not on year-to-year contracts. If he does not win out and he stays the "hard core" fans will still be but it could be a very rough 2022. Even if he wins out it comes down to the body of work. Is UNT progressing and putting a competitive team on the field? If you remove the green glasses the answer if very clear.

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17 minutes ago, MrAlien said:

Remember they have to pay him either way, so if they hire another coach then they would essentially be paying for 2 head coaches, not to mention what happens to the rest of the staff.   I think he has a decent shot at keeping his job based on that already, so unless they get blown out by UTEP or FIU I think he sticks around. 

The buyout is not a holdup.   I guess this needs to be repeated because people keep bringing it up like we're still a struggling AD that overextended Littrell and now we're stuck holding the bag...  it's just not true.

Not to mention, Wren already renegotiated with Littrell over the last offseason to safeguard a chunk of the buyout by decreasing whatever his next job pays from the buyout amount:
https://dentonrc.com/sports/football_preview/seth-littrell-aiming-to-get-unt-back-on-track-after-consecutive-four-win-seasons/article_88ecbfb8-edf4-5319-bd5e-6862c4c94bb7.html

So in the ideal scenario where Sonny Dykes goes to TCU and takes Littrell with him to be OC,  his salary at TCU (probably somewhere in the $500-750k range) gets deducted from UNT's buyout amount.

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I think this program's history is so awful that many of y'all's floors are just too low.   You're still thinking like it's still 'little ol' UNT' with a cobbled-together budget.

Y'all.   THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!    It's safe to raise your standards, and demand a little bit more from the head coach and the Athletic department than a 36-38 overall record and 3 straight losing seasons in year 6.

I really hope Wren and Neal see this thread (or someone in the AD relays it to them), and they view it not as job security due to Stockholm Syndrome'd fans, but as the challenge they need to overcome to achieve full buy-in from the fans.

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27 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I think this program's history is so awful that many of y'all's floors are just too low.   You're still thinking like it's still 'little ol' UNT' with a cobbled-together budget.

Y'all.   THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!    It's safe to raise your standards, and demand a little bit more from the head coach and the Athletic department than a 36-38 overall record and 3 straight losing seasons in year 6.

I really hope Wren and Neal see this thread (or someone in the AD relays it to them), and they view it not as job security due to Stockholm Syndrome'd fans, but as the challenge they need to overcome to achieve full buy-in from the fans.

 

We'll see if people keep that same energy after this weekend. 

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57 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I think this program's history is so awful that many of y'all's floors are just too low.   You're still thinking like it's still 'little ol' UNT' with a cobbled-together budget.

Y'all.   THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!    It's safe to raise your standards, and demand a little bit more from the head coach and the Athletic department than a 36-38 overall record and 3 straight losing seasons in year 6.

I really hope Wren and Neal see this thread (or someone in the AD relays it to them), and they view it not as job security due to Stockholm Syndrome'd fans, but as the challenge they need to overcome to achieve full buy-in from the fans.

You're correct, but suffering for decades as a UNT fan certainly leaves one to be cautious if not fully pessimistic.  Too many times, we've thought we had turned the corner, only to be let down again.

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1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I think this program's history is so awful that many of y'all's floors are just too low.   You're still thinking like it's still 'little ol' UNT' with a cobbled-together budget.

Y'all.   THOSE DAYS ARE GONE!    It's safe to raise your standards, and demand a little bit more from the head coach and the Athletic department than a 36-38 overall record and 3 straight losing seasons in year 6.

I really hope Wren and Neal see this thread (or someone in the AD relays it to them), and they view it not as job security due to Stockholm Syndrome'd fans, but as the challenge they need to overcome to achieve full buy-in from the fans.

Time to see if there really is a #NEWDENTON or the same ole #OLDDENTON 

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6 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:


Just 4 short years ago under this head coach.

Hearing that chant at that time (during actual gameplay, not shoehorned in-between the 1st & 2nd quarter while people are going to the bathroom during a game we're being murdered in), and end in that way is what makes it so great.   
I swear, whoever's idea it was to make sure we do the "NORTH/TEXAS" chant in between the 1st & 2nd quarter no matter what needs to be fired with Littrell.   I hope someone has been paying attention over the past few weeks to how pathetic it sounded.

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57 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

magic time machine to go back and erase the last two season and this one.  We have not been beating teams with winning records.

If you jumped on that MTM and told the UNT fans that we would have 3 straight seasons like we have and that there would even be a question of keeping Seth around they would laugh at you.

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I put Seth needs to go period and the reason why is his recruiting has stunk and even though his ranking are high I do not believe in the rankings and neither should anyone else.  I will be attending the Buffalo and UTA games and hope to see some of you not named Lifer there. 

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To me the timing has come and gone. The decision has been made. You can’t wait to see if he wins the bowl game. It’s too late. Wren and President are planners. I have a feeling he was fired after UAB. Business people can’t let that product sell tickets next year. If he goes out on a high note, great, but he’s bound to be already gone, right? He just might win the wrong 6 games. 
 

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