Just a little perspective

ChiefTenBeers2015 · October 22, 2021

37 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

how many blonde cheerleaders can you have? Watching their game is very apparent we need to get so much better to compete with those teams. Out team just seems so out sync.

So no to blonde cheerleaders? We all have our preferences I guess. So how many can you have? Asking for a friend…

Edited October 22, 2021 by ChiefTenBeers2015

NTXCoog · October 22, 2021

37 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

how many blonde cheerleaders can you have?

"Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players."

TreeFiddy · October 22, 2021

2 minutes ago, NTXCoog said:

"Do you like white women? Because we have a lot of them at Baylor and they love football players."

Factual statement?

SMUMustangs2018 · October 22, 2021

You are so pathetic. SMU is a significantly superior program to NTSU. You are in because SMU is gone along with other peer programs. We will beat you until the end of time and we will always be able to pluck the best talent from Denton just like we do to the Frogs. We will probably keep playing your team, hopefully as a home game permanently when we get our XII logo.

Pony Up

ChiefTenBeers2015 · October 22, 2021

1 minute ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

You are so pathetic. SMU is a significantly superior program to NTSU. You are in because SMU is gone along with other peer programs. We will beat you until the end of time and we will always be able to pluck the best talent from Denton just like we do to the Frogs. We will probably keep playing your team, hopefully as a home game permanently when we get our XII logo.

Pony Up

Next one’s in Denton right?
GMG

bstnsportsfan3 · October 22, 2021

3 minutes ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

You are so pathetic. SMU is a significantly superior program to NTSU. You are in because SMU is gone along with other peer programs. We will beat you until the end of time and we will always be able to pluck the best talent from Denton just like we do to the Frogs. We will probably keep playing your team, hopefully as a home game permanently when we get our XII logo.

Pony Up

You about as likely to move to the big 12 as we are. Got off your high horse

SMUMustangs2018 · October 22, 2021

9 minutes ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

You about as likely to move to the big 12 as we are. Got off your high horse

Sure....

35-12

bstnsportsfan3 · October 22, 2021

6 minutes ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

Sure....

35-12

Great comeback! Dungeons And Dragons Reaction GIF by Hyper RPG

SMUMustangs2018 · October 22, 2021

1 minute ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

Great comeback!

Go get Chad Morris so we can roll you by 8 TD

ChiefTenBeers2015 · October 22, 2021

4 minutes ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

Sure....

35-12

Guess it’s officially a rivalry, so add another fifty seasons and it’ll be settled.
GMG

bstnsportsfan3 · October 22, 2021

5 minutes ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

Go get Chad Morris so we can roll you by 8 TD

We beat his ass so bad that he went back to high school, which isn’t much different then coaching SMU

SMUMustangs2018 · October 22, 2021

1 minute ago, bstnsportsfan3 said:

We beat his ass so bad that he went back to high school, which isn’t much different then coaching SMU

NTSU never beat Chad Morris.

Sonny Dykes lost the first game but has since been 3-1.

Are you going to win another game this season?

bstnsportsfan3 · October 22, 2021

6 minutes ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

NTSU never beat Chad Morris.

Sonny Dykes lost the first game but has since been 3-1.

Are you going to win another game this season?

Uh we wrecked him in Arkansas… so yes we have beat Chad Morris

SMUleopold · October 22, 2021

9 hours ago, Hunter Green said:

SMU still lives and dreams they are still in the forty's and still relevant.

GO MEAN GREEN!

You're certainly right. We're no longer in the forties.

We're in the twenties and climbing.

Edited October 22, 2021 by SMUleopold
Better joke.

GrandGreen · October 22, 2021

19 minutes ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

NTSU never beat Chad Morris.

Sonny Dykes lost the first game but has since been 3-1.

Are you going to win another game this season?

Wait, and see how it plays out. SMU has always in modern football had a conference advantage over NT.

Soon, unless SMU finds another destination; NT and SMU will meet on equal terms. That big historical advantage were almost all SMU victories were not only against a lower level conference NT, but also a lower division school will be gone.

Whether NT wins another game this season is meaningless in terms of what is going to start happening in 2023.

SMU is a great program this year, and has a shot at an undefeated season. If SMU can build on that, maybe they can dominate the AAC and perhaps get that look from the P5's.

greenminer · October 22, 2021

1 hour ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

Sure....

35-12

AAC-AAC

Edited October 22, 2021 by greenminer

NTXCoog · October 22, 2021

1 hour ago, TreeFiddy said:

Factual statement?

Kendal Briles quote

TreeFiddy · October 22, 2021

35 minutes ago, NTXCoog said:

Kendal Briles quote

I remember. Just saying it seemed to be a factual statement.

cogido · October 22, 2021

2 hours ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

You are so pathetic. SMU is a significantly superior program to NTSU. You are in because SMU is gone along with other peer programs. We will beat you until the end of time and we will always be able to pluck the best talent from Denton just like we do to the Frogs. We will probably keep playing your team, hopefully as a home game permanently when we get our XII logo.

Pony Up

I’m glad you came to this Mean Green site and posted smumustang2018. Moron trash talk is great for local rivalries. Can’t deny the little pony is having a great year, but I’ve known these two institutions for years and years and the reality is the tide will change again, the Mean Green will beat Peruna and we’ll all keep pissing at each other over cold beer.

Kandy Atz · October 22, 2021

First Off, welcome to the AAC.

I wanted to address SMU attendance. SMU AD Rick Hart mentioned in an interview that student attendance is up to 67% of undergrads. That is a tremendous percentage, but since there are only 6k undergrads, it is hardly noticeable in a 32k seat stadium. For comparison, at 67% UNT would have 26k students in the stands for games. That is almost capacity if I remember correctly. For SMU to fill Ford, it MUST rely on a winning team, an interesting opponent, ideal weather, no major competing events, sports, church, or youth, alumni in DFW, and a good chunk of Dallas area sports fans.

We've got a base of about 20,000 that show up regularly. This game being on Thursday, televised (which works both against and for you), and against a 1-5 Tulane attendance was about what one would expect.

I started attending SMU games in the late 70s. Attended SMU in the 80s. And have followed the school all through the dark years. Even playing at Texas stadium, without the benefit of a Texas or Arkansas, and not going crazy with free tickets, SMU could count on about 20-30k for UNT, UTA. Rice and TCU, depending on their records and time of year 25k to 40k. 30k to 50k for Baylor, Houston, and Tech. Didn't bring a lot of high profile OOC opponents to Dallas, although Boston College came in '86 - 26k, and Louisville '83 - 23k - neither school at that time were considered big time opponents.

The NCAA shut the program down in 88 and SMU decided not to play only away games in 89 as the NCAA demanded. No need to regurgitate everything, but SMU endured many bad conference moves, an unfriendly administration, and some bad coach hires.

Now consider TCU - which I believe is a wonderful example of what a small private university CAN achieve. SMU and TCU are very similar in size and wealth. My very first SMU game was a game against TCU, my sister was in her first year. My family attended most home games, and sometimes TCU games in Ft Worth. From that first game until I graduated in 87, SMU never lost to TCU. Even after the DP, TCU was a team we could sometimes beat, that was until about 2000 with the hiring of Dennis Franchione and then Gary Patterson. From that point the administration was determined to build a winning program, changing conferences and leaving behind SMU, Rice, who did not seem willing to commit to build. TCU now has a 20 year head start, P5 revenue, conference championships, bowl wins, and weeks of being ranked and in the national conversation. Why wouldn't the casual football fan in Ft Worth adopt the Horned Frogs?

2003 – (11-2; 7-1 CONFERENCE USA) 36k.

2010 – (13-0; 8-0 MWC CHAMPIONS) - 43k

2014 – (12-1; 8-1 BIG 12 CHAMPIONS) - 45k - Current Capacity

Note that TCU was growing attendance in both CUSA and MWC, neither of which, outside of a handful, brought many fans to Texas. Playing in the Big 12 is obviously a game changer. As an older alum, I sure miss watching games against Baylor, Tech, UT etc. Also, its much easier to invite friends if they recognize/support the opponent.

This is getting long. The point I wanted to make which is valid for both of us, attendance is always going to be a challenge, especially for a small private school. We MUST win and do it consistently for several years to attract more fans outside the family. UNT will likely need to do the same. However, with the size of the school and amount of alumni in the area, your stadium should be filled just within your family. But again, it all starts with winning. Nobody wants to go watch their team lose to schools known for everything but football. I've seen far too many, but kept holding on and hoping things would change.

Now, I can watch games EXPECTING SMU to win. That hasn't been the case since the early 80s. And its great.

I truly hope UNT can find a coach that will bring some sustained success and will get the University excited. I thought Dickey was your guy and hated to see him go. Anyway, good luck with your next coach.

meangreenbob · October 22, 2021

7 hours ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

You are so pathetic. SMU is a significantly superior program to NTSU. You are in because SMU is gone along with other peer programs. We will beat you until the end of time and we will always be able to pluck the best talent from Denton just like we do to the Frogs. We will probably keep playing your team, hopefully as a home game permanently when we get our XII logo.

Pony Up

Your pride is saturated with arrogance and your ignorance is amazing. The pride comes before the fall

We were conference mates with Houston, Memphis, Tulsa, Louisville and Cincinnati long before smu. Old MVC schools that smu looked down on from their swc perch. Isn’t it ironic that 3 of these schools have past smu by. And wait, look even UCF a former D1AA school has left you guys in the dust.

UNT won the MVC title in 1959 over Houston, Tulsa, Wichita St and Cincinnati.

I can understand your fear. When you belittle, when you chastise, mock, ridicule, slander someone for years and then they move into the same neighborhood, right next door to you, it can eat you alive.

The Pride truly does come before the Fall. God is not man that He should lie.

Should the Big 12 hold off with expansion for a couple years it is conceivable that they might choose the school with 45,000 students

I would check your pride at the door.

Edited October 22, 2021 by meangreenbob

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · October 22, 2021

10 hours ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

You are so pathetic. SMU is a significantly superior program to NTSU. You are in because SMU is gone along with other peer programs. We will beat you until the end of time and we will always be able to pluck the best talent from Denton just like we do to the Frogs. We will probably keep playing your team, hopefully as a home game permanently when we get our XII logo.

Pony Up

Sure Jan GIF

Withers940 · October 22, 2021

12 hours ago, ChiefTenBeers2015 said:

Looking at the stands, that place appears more crowded than a few nights ago at Apogee — although it’s still rather empty. Granted they’re having success this season so more folks will be in attendance. And for once the B12 will have twelve members, if I’m not mistaken. The real question is can the Mean Green turn things around soon as Vito pointed out?

This is an undefeated SMU team though.....If UNT was 6-0, I can bet you that Apogee would be damn near close to full.

Thats a bad angle too and there wasn't that many folks there

TripleGrad · October 22, 2021

5 minutes ago, Withers940 said:

This is an undefeated SMU team though.....If UNT was 6-0, I can bet you that Apogee would be damn near close to full.

Apogee -was- full at 4-0

Curse you LATech.

Withers940 · October 22, 2021

10 hours ago, SMUMustangs2018 said:

You are so pathetic. SMU is a significantly superior program to NTSU. You are in because SMU is gone along with other peer programs. We will beat you until the end of time and we will always be able to pluck the best talent from Denton just like we do to the Frogs. We will probably keep playing your team, hopefully as a home game permanently when we get our XII logo.

Pony Up