Graham Harrell

WanderingEagle · October 18, 2021

His current contract expires after 2022. He makes $1.2 million a year. We can afford to get this dude back in Denton and pay him handsomely to get NT into the limelight.

He has been nothing but successful as an offensive coach and he knows how to develop talent.

2009 - Oklahoma State (Offensive quality control) - 28.4 YPG, 367 YPG. Nothing crazy, but still notable.

2014 Washington State (WR coach) - 477 passing YPG (1st nationally), 3.8 passing TD per game (T-1st nationally), 3 of the top 33 WR's in CFB in touchdowns per game

2015 Washington State (WR coach) - 389 passing YPG (1st nationally), 3.2 passing TD per game (5th nationally), 2 of the top 15 WR's in CFB in touchdowns per game

2016 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - gonna redact 2016 as it was a rebuilding year and we went back and forth at QB.

2017 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - 35.5 points per game (2nd in CUSA/19th nationally), 456 YPG (2nd in CUSA/24th nationally), 6.2 yards per play (2nd in CUSA/32nd nationally)

2018 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - 34.6 points per game (2nd in CUSA/28th nationally), 460 YPG (2nd in CUSA/20th nationally), 6.2 yards per play (3rd in CUSA/28th nationally)

2019 USC (OC/QB coach) - 32.5 points per game (3rd in Pac-12/35th nationally), 454 YPG (2nd in Pac-12/20th nationally), 6.5 yards per play (2nd in Pac-12/15th nationally)

2020 USC (OC/QB coach) - discounted because of COVID but USC was still top 50 in YPG and points

2021 USC (OC/QB coach) - as of Oct 18 USC ranks 27th nationally in YPG at 448.2, 42nd nationally in PPG at 32.2 and 41st nationally at 6.1 YPP.

He can't stay sitting as USC's OC forever. He's clearly succeeded offensively everywhere he's been. Guys he was linked with here (Joel Filani, John David Baker, Tashard Choice) were all great position coaches and have high regard and respect. He (and those he would bring) has Texas roots and can establish a legacy here. It's a low risk, high reward situation for both schools. Graham Harrell is far and away the best choice to coach North Texas into a new era of conference realignment and success. Disagree? Debate a wall

Edited October 18, 2021 by WanderingEagle

p_phelps · October 18, 2021

5 hours ago, WanderingEagle said:

His current contract expires after 2022. He makes $1.2 million a year. We can afford to get this dude back in Denton and pay him handsomely to get NT into the limelight.

He has been nothing but successful as an offensive coach and he knows how to develop talent.

2009 - Oklahoma State (Offensive quality control) - 28.4 YPG, 367 YPG. Nothing crazy, but still notable.

2014 Washington State (WR coach) - 477 passing YPG (1st nationally), 3.8 passing TD per game (T-1st nationally), 3 of the top 33 WR's in CFB in touchdowns per game

2015 Washington State (WR coach) - 389 passing YPG (1st nationally), 3.2 passing TD per game (5th nationally), 2 of the top 15 WR's in CFB in touchdowns per game

2016 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - gonna redact 2016 as it was a rebuilding year and we went back and forth at QB.

2017 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - 35.5 points per game (2nd in CUSA/19th nationally), 456 YPG (2nd in CUSA/24th nationally), 6.2 yards per play (2nd in CUSA/32nd nationally)

2018 North Texas (OC/QB coach) - 34.6 points per game (2nd in CUSA/28th nationally), 460 YPG (2nd in CUSA/20th nationally), 6.2 yards per play (3rd in CUSA/28th nationally)

2019 USC (OC/QB coach) - 32.5 points per game (3rd in Pac-12/35th nationally), 454 YPG (2nd in Pac-12/20th nationally), 6.5 yards per play (2nd in Pac-12/15th nationally)

2020 USC (OC/QB coach) - discounted because of COVID but USC was still top 50 in YPG and points

2021 USC (OC/QB coach) - as of Oct 18 USC ranks 27th nationally in YPG at 448.2, 42nd nationally in PPG at 32.2 and 41st nationally at 6.1 YPP.

He can't stay sitting as USC's OC forever. He's clearly succeeded offensively everywhere he's been. Guys he was linked with here (Joel Filani, John David Baker, Tashard Choice) were all great position coaches and have high regard and respect. He (and those he would bring) has Texas roots and can establish a legacy here. It's a low risk, high reward situation for both schools. Graham Harrell is far and away the best choice to coach North Texas into a new era of conference realignment and success. Disagree? Debate a wall

Wouldn't hate it. I really want a proven HC but I always liked Graham

PlummMeanGreen · October 18, 2021

He’d be a good choice, but wouldn’t GH be a “3 & out” kind of coach like SL would have been had he accepted the Kansas State job—you know, 3 years & bye, bye Denton?

Wouldn’t an older P5-experienced HFC who would put all the moving around & upward mobility job thing in his past probably hang around longer in Denton to build a program?
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Just in from WBAP 820AM—
Thelma Lou (Betty Lynn) of Andy Griffith Show fame passed away over the weekend at the age of 95. She played Barney Fife’s girlfriend, of course.

outoftown · October 18, 2021

9 minutes ago, PlummMeanGreen said:

He’d be a good choice, but wouldn’t GH be a “3 & out” kind of coach like SL would have been had he accepted the Kansas State job—you know, 3 years & bye, bye Denton?

Wouldn’t an older P5-experienced HFC who would put all the moving around & upward mobility job thing in his past probably hang around longer in Denton to build a program?
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Just in from WBAP 820AM—
Thelma Lou (Betty Lynn) of Andy Griffith Show fame passed away over the weekend at the age of 95. She played Barney Fife’s girlfriend, of course.

I can life with a 3 and out coach, provided he leaves the program clearly better than he found it.

If you can string two of those together, it really raises the profile of the school. See Houston and Sumlin/Herman, which it turns out have their flaws, but their tenure at Houston really helped that program and was likely part of their making the cut to the the Big12.

That said I get the argument of those who really want someone who has been a college HC, even if it is only at FCS level.

Edited October 18, 2021 by outoftown

Cr1028 · October 18, 2021

If we are stuck with Littrell for another season then definitely move whatever mountain needed to get him back here as OC/QB coach.

If we are free of Littrell after the season, I wouldn’t hate bringing GH in as head coach but I’d like to see what other options we have.

Mean Green Matt · October 18, 2021

25 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

If we are stuck with Littrell for another season then definitely move whatever mountain needed to get him back here as OC/QB coach.

If we are free of Littrell after the season, I wouldn’t hate bringing GH in as head coach but I’d like to see what other options we have.

There is no way Littrell is back after this season. I know this is North Texas, but there just isn’t.

Victorygreen04 · October 18, 2021

1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:

If we are stuck with Littrell for another season then definitely move whatever mountain needed to get him back here as OC/QB coach.

If we are free of Littrell after the season, I wouldn’t hate bringing GH in as head coach but I’d like to see what other options we have.

Why would GH come back and be an OC at UNT when he is already at USC? Thats worse then a lateral move.. If he was offered the Head job that makes more sense..imo

MeanGreenTexan · October 18, 2021

Nevermind he hasn't really shown to be HC material...

The job may be a little big for him, but boy we're already familiar with him, so let's bring him back! So cozy.

C Rod · October 18, 2021

I like your thinking. If I were Wren, I’d go with energy, excitement, and youth with our next coaching staff.

Bring back Graham Harrell as HC & Playcaller

Promote Patrick Cobbs to OC along with his RB coach duties. Allows him to learn under Harrell so that when GH leaves in 3+years, Cobbs is next in line for an interview.

Bring Zach Orr home and hire him as the next DC. His time playing and coaching D for the Baltimore Ravens would be an asset to this team. Knowing what he knows, I would love to see what he could do with our defense.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · October 18, 2021

8 minutes ago, C Rod said:

I like your thinking. If I were Wren, I’d go with energy, excitement, and youth with our next coaching staff.

Bring back Graham Harrell as HC & Playcaller

Promote Patrick Cobbs to OC along with his RB coach duties. Allows him to learn under Harrell so that when GH leaves in 3+years, Cobbs is next in line for an interview.

Bring Zach Orr home and hire him as the next DC. His time playing and coaching D for the Baltimore Ravens would be an asset to this team. Knowing what he knows, I would love to see what he could do with our defense.

If we did that, I don’t even want to see the meltdown on this board when we go 2-10 the first year

C Rod · October 18, 2021

7 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

If we did that, I don’t even want to see the meltdown on this board when we go 2-10 the first year

WHEN we go 2-10? Are you watching this season? Our only win is vs a FCS team. We're halfway there, bud. The board is going to bitch and moan no matter what happens.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · October 18, 2021

Just now, C Rod said:

WHEN we go 2-10? Are you watching this season? Our only win is vs a FCS team. We're halfway there, bud. The board is going to bitch and moan no matter what happens.

No no no.

I’m talking about if we hire all of those young and kind of unproven coaches. It would be difficult to have immediate success.

This season is basically a wash

MeanGreenTexan · October 18, 2021

20 minutes ago, C Rod said:

I like your thinking. If I were Wren, I’d go with energy, excitement, and youth with our next coaching staff.

Bring back Graham Harrell as HC & Playcaller

Promote Patrick Cobbs to OC along with his RB coach duties. Allows him to learn under Harrell so that when GH leaves in 3+years, Cobbs is next in line for an interview.

Bring Zach Orr home and hire him as the next DC. His time playing and coaching D for the Baltimore Ravens would be an asset to this team. Knowing what he knows, I would love to see what he could do with our defense.

C Rod · October 18, 2021

2 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

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southsideguy · October 18, 2021

You have to get rid of the old coach first.

greenminer · October 18, 2021

Harrell might be a great hire. Get him in the office and talk to him. Two counterpoints:

1) Plenty of coaches out there function best as a coordinator/assistant. Harrell doesn't have any HC experience and would be a risk.

2) WB made it publicly known for the Grant hire that he wanted someone with previous HC experience. He may or may not want that here, too.

DeepGreen · October 18, 2021

We need to "flush" Seth out of the system first. Then we look at our options to replace him.

MeanGreenTexan · October 18, 2021

1 minute ago, C Rod said:

You obviously have a grasp of former (and current!) Mean Green coaches. It also appears you know of former Mean Green players who are in the coaching realm. That is fantastic, and I hope they all do well!

However, why would you willingly limit your coaching search to former Mean Green coaches/players? Like, are these guys the only ones qualified to coach here in your opinion?

How 'bout these other guys?
Darrell Dickey! - OL!
Freddie Kitchens! - TEs!
Jeff Rodgers! - ST's!
Mean Joe Greene!!!!! - DL!
Gio Vizza! - Outside WRs!
Riley Dodge! - Inside WRs!
Ryan Walters! - CBs!
Marcus Trice! - Ss!

I mean, we could really put together a who's-who of Mean Green alumni!!!
We wouldn't win crap, but hey! We'd really love our coaches!!!1!1!!

C Rod · October 18, 2021

3 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

You obviously have a grasp of former (and current!) Mean Green coaches. It also appears you know of former Mean Green players who are in the coaching realm. That is fantastic, and I hope they all do well!

However, why would you willingly limit your coaching search to former Mean Green coaches/players? Like, are these guys the only ones qualified to coach here in your opinion?

How 'bout these other guys?
Darrell Dickey! - OL!
Freddie Kitchens! - TEs!
Jeff Rodgers! - ST's!
Mean Joe Greene!!!!! - DL!
Gio Vizza! - Outside WRs!
Riley Dodge! - Inside WRs!
Ryan Walters! - CBs!
Marcus Trice! - Ss!

I mean, we could really put together a who's-who of Mean Green alumni!!!
We wouldn't win crap, but hey! We'd really love our coaches!!!1!1!!

You're putting words in my mouth and you look like a 🤡 with all of your exclamation marks.

GH proved he could run our offense well and I have faith he would turn the program around.

Cobbs is a motivator, great RB coach and has been a bright spot in this dumpster fire.

Zach is a an up and coming NFL defensive coach who studied under one of the NFL's best defenses and has now coached under Harbaugh and Meyer. The talent is there and it's obvious, to some of us.

At our level, developing talent shouldn’t only happen with players.

Cr1028 · October 18, 2021

2 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

You obviously have a grasp of former (and current!) Mean Green coaches. It also appears you know of former Mean Green players who are in the coaching realm. That is fantastic, and I hope they all do well!

However, why would you willingly limit your coaching search to former Mean Green coaches/players? Like, are these guys the only ones qualified to coach here in your opinion?

How 'bout these other guys?
Darrell Dickey! - OL!
Freddie Kitchens! - TEs!
Jeff Rodgers! - ST's!
Mean Joe Greene!!!!! - DL!
Gio Vizza! - Outside WRs!
Riley Dodge! - Inside WRs!
Ryan Walters! - CBs!
Marcus Trice! - Ss!

I mean, we could really put together a who's-who of Mean Green alumni!!!
We wouldn't win crap, but hey! We'd really love our coaches!!!1!1!!

You need a director of recruiting.
https://www.kcbd.com/2021/08/25/beau-davidson-joins-texas-tech-recruiting-staff/

Plus, I’d put Riley on quarterbacks and have Brandon Jackson take the receivers. DT, Shanbour, or Mason could assist with the quarterbacks.

Edit:

Edited October 18, 2021 by Cr1028

MGNation92 · October 18, 2021

Seth had no HC experience coming here and we were ecstatic.

Now, the supposed offensive guru is lost without his actual offensive guru OC.

Sign me up. You know the QB situation would be fixed

Wag Tag · October 18, 2021

He has to have HC experience! Traylor would be my first choice. If Dykes leaves is Traylor a SMU contender?

UNTLifer · October 18, 2021

Who will TX Tech go after? There is no way Wells survives after this season. The reason I ask is that I could see them going after Traylor. Tech has a lot of cash to spend.

Wag Tag · October 18, 2021

7 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Who will TX Tech go after? There is no way Wells survives after this season. The reason I ask is that I could see them going after Traylor. Tech has a lot of cash to spend.

Dykes would be their saviour.

MeanGreen_MBA · October 18, 2021

24 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Who will TX Tech go after? There is no way Wells survives after this season. The reason I ask is that I could see them going after Traylor. Tech has a lot of cash to spend.

Tech is 5-1 if I am not mistaken.