I trust Wren Baker.

[WanderingEagle]

WB has exceeded any and all expectations I had of him during his tenure here. Not only did he make a home run hire in Grant Mac for hoops, but he’s overseen improvements to facilities, game day experiences, uniforms, outreach/marketing, etc. 

 

He is seriously one of the best people we could have doing his job. Whatever happens I trust he’ll make the right decision.

[Hunter Green]

7 hours ago, WanderingEagle said:

WB has exceeded any and all expectations I had of him during his tenure here. Not only did he make a home run hire in Grant Mac for hoops, but he’s overseen improvements to facilities, game day experiences, uniforms, outreach/marketing, etc. 

 

He is seriously one of the best people we could have doing his job. Whatever happens I trust he’ll make the right decision.

All those things you mentioned were the fun things. Now comes the hard part of the job.

[PlummMeanGreen]

As been said before, SL was not Wren’s hire.  Yet Wren cried at a press conference when he thought we’d lost SL to the Big 12 KSU Wildcats.  Remember how 99.9% of our fan base all but cried with him?  I was one of them.😢
We’re programmed to expect every negative thing that happens to us up there.  
When we do have a positive, some on this board all but apologize for it or say “an asteroid will soon hit us after all this positive stuff settles down.”  It’s almost enough to make you laugh (or cry).  We are one helluva’ peculiar fan base. 
 

Edited September 22, 2021 by PlummMeanGreen

[Pavlovs Eagle]

7 hours ago, WanderingEagle said:

Whatever happens I trust he’ll make the right decision.

The fact that its 10am on Sunday morning, I'm drinking a hot cup of coffee and bailey's, and Seth Littrell is still our head coach means that Wren Baker has NOT made the right decision for this football program, the students who put their bodies on the line playing, and the fan/donor base.

[WanderingEagle]

4 hours ago, Pavlovs Eagle said:

The fact that its 10am on Sunday morning, I'm drinking a hot cup of coffee and bailey's, and Seth Littrell is still our head coach means that Wren Baker has NOT made the right decision for this football program, the students who put their bodies on the line playing, and the fan/donor base.

Who do you suggest interims for 9 games?

[Cooke County Kid]

We do not have anyone on staff but I am not sure it would matter.  To say I am disappointed and still in shock would be an understatement.  That was a pitiful game, just pitiful.  I know UAB is good and they showed it but they are also classless, that long pass at the end of the game if that would not get folks fired up I do not know what will.  Lackadaisical walk through zombie game everyone looked like they were in a daze and a full beat off throughout the entire game. 

GO MEAN GREEN
WIN GAMES!!!

[NTEX91]

Let Phil Bennett have the last nine.  He has head coaching experience.

[Mean Green Matt]

Unfortunately there is a big difference between Wren Baker reaching what he believes to be the right decision and Wren Baker having enough money to execute on it. 

[Rudy]

17 hours ago, WanderingEagle said:

Who do you suggest interims for 9 games?

Phil Bennett. 

[TheColonyEagle]

Wasn’t Phil Bennett pulled off the couch after a couple of years off to come in and coach defense?

Would he even want to take over the entire team as interim HC?

[Mean Green Matt]

44 minutes ago, Rudy said:

Phil Bennett. 

So long as his name is absolutely nowhere near the list of people being considered for the full time job. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

7 hours ago, NTEX91 said:

Let Phil Bennett have the last nine.  He has head coaching experience.

PB is doing Littrell a favor.   If Littrell gets fired, I assume PB may finish up this season and unless some other Baylor guy is hired as HC, he'll re-retire.   I'm fairly certain he has ZERO ambition to take on an interim HC job.

The guy I'd like to see take over, but is probably in the same boat as Bennett, is Mainord, who has been AHC for 3 years now.  The players like him, but he's very loyal to Littrell.   I think Mainord would at least be able to keep the same system in place, but might be able to circle the wagons and get the guys to fight.
 

1 hour ago, Mean Green Matt said:

Unfortunately there is a big difference between Wren Baker reaching what he believes to be the right decision and Wren Baker having enough money to execute on it. 

Again, if Baker didn't have enough foresight to begin preparing funds for this very moment after last season's debacle, he's a part of the problem.   Being an AD requires contingency plans everywhere (like, he needs to have one ready in the unfortunate/unlikely event McCasland flames out too).   
He simply cannot cross his fingers & leave all his eggs in Littrell's basket after witnessing 2 straight 4-win seasons!  That's really dumb.   I don't think he's really dumb.
 

[Mean Green Matt]

3 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

PB is doing Littrell a favor.   If Littrell gets fired, I assume PB may finish up this season and unless some other Baylor guy is hired as HC, he'll re-retire.   I'm fairly certain he has ZERO ambition to take on an interim HC job.

The guy I'd like to see take over, but is probably in the same boat as Bennett, is Mainord, who has been AHC for 3 years now.  The players like him, but he's very loyal to Littrell.   I think Mainord would at least be able to keep the same system in place, but might be able to circle the wagons and get the guys to fight.
 

Again, if Baker didn't have enough foresight to begin preparing funds for this very moment after last season's debacle, he's a part of the problem.   Being an AD requires contingency plans everywhere (like, he needs to have one ready in the unfortunate/unlikely event McCasland flames out too).   
He simply cannot cross his fingers & leave all his eggs in Littrell's basket after witnessing 2 straight 4-win seasons!  That's really dumb.   I don't think he's really dumb.
 

I don’t disagree with you. But there’s really only one guy with enough cash to make that buyout happen. Maybe 2. I’ve said this a bunch of times in the last couple weeks, but we can’t even raise enough money to cover the cost of the scholarships for the players. A $4 million buyout or whatever it is is a big ask. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

4 minutes ago, Mean Green Matt said:

I don’t disagree with you. But there’s really only one guy with enough cash to make that buyout happen. Maybe 2. I’ve said this a bunch of times in the last couple weeks, but we can’t even raise enough money to cover the cost of the scholarships for the players. A $4 million buyout or whatever it is is a big ask. 

eyeroll not from me.
What gives me hope that Wren already has this lined up, is that he had enough foresight to restructure Littrell's deal to get out of a majority of what is owed in a buyout when he signs on as an OC somewhere.   Littrell's salary at his new job (and he'll definitely get one) will be subtracted from what he's owed.   That will make the buyout much easier for Baker to deal with.

[UNTLifer]

19 hours ago, WanderingEagle said:

Who do you suggest interims for 9 games?

Patrick Cobbs

I would have the remaining staff as follows:

DC: Bennett

OL/AHC: Bloesch

OC/WR/AHC: Mainord

Cobbs could still work with the RBs.

[Mean Green Matt]

46 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

eyeroll not from me.
What gives me hope that Wren already has this lined up, is that he had enough foresight to restructure Littrell's deal to get out of a majority of what is owed in a buyout when he signs on as an OC somewhere.   Littrell's salary at his new job (and he'll definitely get one) will be subtracted from what he's owed.   That will make the buyout much easier for Baker to deal with.

That’s a good point. If it’s not a P5 coordinator position  though it won’t help THAT much. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

Just now, Mean Green Matt said:

That’s a good point. If it’s not a P5 coordinator position  though it won’t help THAT much. 

Oh, it will be.
Littrell is still very young.  He's not going to want to kill his career.  He'll put himself in a good position to succeed, and get paid well.

[PlummMeanGreen]

On 9/19/2021 at 2:41 PM, Cooke County Kid said:

We do not have anyone on staff but I am not sure it would matter.  To say I am disappointed and still in shock would be an understatement.  That was a pitiful game, just pitiful.  I know UAB is good and they showed it but they are also classless, that long pass at the end of the game if that would not get folks fired up I do not know what will.  Lackadaisical walk through zombie game everyone looked like they were in a daze and a full beat off throughout the entire game. 

GO MEAN GREEN
WIN GAMES!!!

When I think of UAB I think of the first time I saw Gene Bartow bring his team out on the floor of the fabulous Super Pit many years ago. 
I also think of UAB as a generic school who think a “not on campus” cookie cutter/erector set football stadium (half owned by the city or county) is going to have the ACC or SEC begging for an affiliation.  

And a freakin’ dragon for a mascot?😆 Whats with that?🙄 Did someone in B’ham fall asleep watching “Dungeons & Dragons” to come up with that mascot idea for a school located in a Southern Bible Belt city for crissakes?   What knuckle-heads.🤪

Should we of UNT ask them what secret revelations they came up when they “quit” CUSA football for 2 years (when CUSA should have told them they would be replaced with Univ. of South Alabama or Troy U)?  
🤢 I’ve got relatives all over greater B’ham/Bessemer & have since the War Between the States (as Jimmy Carter called it) & during the Great Depression (not the present one) they most all were, uh, moon’shiners. I know, go ahead & laugh.  Sadly, I think Hee Haw came up with the idea for their southern-fried TV show—WITH MY OWN BAMA RELATIVES AS THEIR INSPIRATION!😢 (Not sure I’ll ever really get over that one). 🥺 

Hey UAB! What statue y’all going to put in front of your new cookie-cutter erector set?  Here’s who we have in front of our fabulous Apogee Stadium.  •••Take another 2 years off & come up with one to top the one below, Dragon’ites.
(Whew! I feel much better now).
.

Edited September 22, 2021 by PlummMeanGreen

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

On 9/20/2021 at 9:34 AM, UNTLifer said:

Patrick Cobbs

I would have the remaining staff as follows:

DC: Bennett

OL/AHC: Bloesch

OC/WR/AHC: Mainord

Cobbs could still work with the RBs.

That would also mean, we have our 4th set of new coordinators in 2022. That’s insanely bad because the majority would’ve been labeled as fired…

[GreenFlag]

On 9/19/2021 at 2:26 PM, WanderingEagle said:

Who do you suggest interims for 9 games?

Mike Canales. He would have #lockedthegate a third time. 

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, GreenFlag said:

Mike Canales. He would have #lockedthegate a third time. 

Well, we wouldn't have to cut a new key.

[ttunt1970]

The problem Baker has is losing the hardcore of which I think of myself. I didn’t go to the game and watched that shitshow (the 1st quarter). I didn’t want to invest three hours of travel time even though I’ve had season tickets for 40 years 

[meangreenbob]

On 9/20/2021 at 6:57 AM, Mean Green Matt said:

Unfortunately there is a big difference between Wren Baker reaching what he believes to be the right decision and Wren Baker having enough money to execute on it. 

And..........who’s fault is that? 

[Marty]

Bob Stoops, probably couldn't afford him although his salary with the XFL Dallas Renegades was somewhere in the $500,000 range. 

Edited September 23, 2021 by Marty

[Mean Green Matt]

9 minutes ago, Marty said:

Bob Stoops, probably couldn't afford him although his salary with the XFL Dallas Renegades was somewhere in the $500,000 range. 

Stoops was just in it for the lulz. We could pay him $1 million more than Seth makes and he wouldn’t come.