Get a Grip

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · September 12, 2021

Suddenly, after a 24 point loss (lowest it’s been in a while) and a very competitive game until the 4th, the season is over????

None of these stats were garbage time yards. Ruder threw for 370 yards 1 TD and 2 picks. He’s been here for around 2 months, and if he wasn’t good, why did he take the starting job from Aune? If Aune is a veteran in this offense, why isn’t he on the field? Because Ruder is the better candidate. It’s tough to have a stellar game when you lose 2 good WRs, and arguably the dynamic piece of the offense in Torrey. It’s not an excuse to play poor, but this isn’t some bad cusa team, it’s a solid AAC team that can run with some good teams.

And there is absolutely no way any of y’all can rag on the defensive staff. Bennett CLEARLY had the guys fired up and ready to play, something that hasn’t happened since 2018. Forced 4 turnovers, 2 INTs and 2 fumbles, against a really good smu offense. In total this year, 8 turnovers. 1 less than we had in 10 games in 2020.

Secondary really showed up, with guys like Gaddie and Davis pressing hard on Gray and Robertson. Only 1 explosive play in the first half after the offense set them up in a bad position.

They looked like they belonged on that field against that team, defensively. Matched up great with everyone they faced up against. The Murphy Twins ate the OTs for dinner

Only big complaint is the inside the 50 (and redzone) offense. Play calling lost this game. 0-10 at one point in the 2nd half on 3rd down conversions. Short yardage situations is something they have to work on, and I think Seth will.

Yall need to get a grip on this game. Last year, there was reason for worry and a lot of complaining. This year, not so much.
Chemistry will come together once the season progresses, it’ll take time. We can match up with about everyone on our schedule.

p_phelps · September 12, 2021

1 minute ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Suddenly, after a 24 point loss (lowest it’s been in a while) and a very competitive game until the 4th, the season is over????

None of these stats were garbage time yards. Ruder threw for 370 yards 1 TD and 2 picks. He’s been here for around 2 months, and if he wasn’t good, why did he take the starting job from Aune? If Aune is a veteran in this offense, why isn’t he on the field? Because Ruder is the better candidate. It’s tough to have a stellar game when you lose 2 good WRs, and arguably the dynamic piece of the offense in Torrey. It’s not an excuse to play poor, but this isn’t some bad cusa team, it’s a solid AAC team that can run with some good teams.

And there is absolutely no way any of y’all can rag on the defensive staff. Bennett CLEARLY had the guys fired up and ready to play, something that hasn’t happened since 2018. Forced 4 turnovers, 2 INTs and 2 fumbles, against a really good smu offense. In total this year, 8 turnovers. 1 less than we had in 10 games in 2020.

Secondary really showed up, with guys like Gaddie and Davis pressing hard on Gray and Robertson. Only 1 explosive play in the first half after the offense set them up in a bad position.

They looked like they belonged on that field against that team, defensively. Matched up great with everyone they faced up against. The Murphy Twins ate the OTs for dinner

Only big complaint is the inside the 50 (and redzone) offense. Play calling lost this game. 0-10 at one point in the 2nd half on 3rd down conversions. Short yardage situations is something they have to work on, and I think Seth will.

Yall need to get a grip on this game. Last year, there was reason for worry and a lot of complaining. This year, not so much.
Chemistry will come together once the season progresses, it’ll take time. We can match up with about everyone on our schedule.

6th year in a program and we're taking moral victories after a 24 point loss. Seth is a bad head coach or best case he's average.

Side.Show.Joe · September 12, 2021

2 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Suddenly, after a 24 point loss (lowest it’s been in a while) and a very competitive game until the 4th, the season is over????

None of these stats were garbage time yards. Ruder threw for 370 yards 1 TD and 2 picks. He’s been here for around 2 months, and if he wasn’t good, why did he take the starting job from Aune? If Aune is a veteran in this offense, why isn’t he on the field? Because Ruder is the better candidate. It’s tough to have a stellar game when you lose 2 good WRs, and arguably the dynamic piece of the offense in Torrey. It’s not an excuse to play poor, but this isn’t some bad cusa team, it’s a solid AAC team that can run with some good teams.

And there is absolutely no way any of y’all can rag on the defensive staff. Bennett CLEARLY had the guys fired up and ready to play, something that hasn’t happened since 2018. Forced 4 turnovers, 2 INTs and 2 fumbles, against a really good smu offense. In total this year, 8 turnovers. 1 less than we had in 10 games in 2020.

Secondary really showed up, with guys like Gaddie and Davis pressing hard on Gray and Robertson. Only 1 explosive play in the first half after the offense set them up in a bad position.

They looked like they belonged on that field against that team, defensively. Matched up great with everyone they faced up against. The Murphy Twins ate the OTs for dinner

Only big complaint is the inside the 50 (and redzone) offense. Play calling lost this game. 0-10 at one point in the 2nd half on 3rd down conversions. Short yardage situations is something they have to work on, and I think Seth will.

Yall need to get a grip on this game. Last year, there was reason for worry and a lot of complaining. This year, not so much.
Chemistry will come together once the season progresses, it’ll take time. We can match up with about everyone on our schedule.

SMU didn't open up their playbook in the first half. Once they did, our offense and defense didn't look nearly as good.

The issue isn't how UNT will look for the rest of this season. I'm sure we will compete just fine in C-USA. The issue is that the program should be much further along in Littrell's 6th year as head coach.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · September 12, 2021

Just now, p_phelps said:

6th year in a program and we're taking moral victories after a 24 point loss. Seth is a bad head coach or best case he's average.

Where am I saying this is a morale victory? All I’m saying is, y’all are overreacting way too much. You can’t always look at the negatives in everything, when we played significantly better than anyone thought.

If you’re a fake fan, just say so. I’m all about bringing up the negativity in bad games, but really there wasn’t that much except for what I said.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · September 12, 2021

Just now, Side.Show.Joe said:

SMU didn't open up their playbook in the first half. Once they did, our offense and defense didn't look nearly as good.

The issue isn't how UNT will look for the rest of this season. I'm sure we will compete just fine in C-USA. The issue is that the program should be much further along in Littrell's 6th year as head coach.

The fact that we made them open the playbook because it was 7-6 at halftime says something.

The fact we forced 4 turnovers against that offense says something. Not a morale victory, but a sign of massive improvement. You can run the most vanilla plays of all time, but when the Dline is disrupting that fast and often, it’s a sign of improvement

Side.Show.Joe · September 12, 2021

17 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

The fact that we made them open the playbook because it was 7-6 at halftime says something.

The fact we forced 4 turnovers against that offense says something. Not a morale victory, but a sign of massive improvement. You can run the most vanilla plays of all time, but when the Dline is disrupting that fast and often, it’s a sign of improvement

Yeah, and the defense also gave up scoring plays (not drives) of ....

62 yards

58 yards

29 yards

19 yards

& 85 yards

I don't call that massive improvement.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · September 12, 2021

4 minutes ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

Yeah, and the defense also gave up scoring plays (not drives) of ....

62 yards

58 yards

29 yards

19 yards

& 85 yards

I don't call that massive improvement.

When the offense goes 3 and out very fast, and gets them field position that’s ranging from the 35-45 in our territory doesn’t help.

Youre clearly oblivious to improvement because it was clear. When the opposing team wears you down, and the offense can’t convert on 3rd down, the bigger plays are gonna happen.

outoftown · September 12, 2021

44 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Suddenly, after a 24 point loss (lowest it’s been in a while) and a very competitive game until the 4th, the season is over????

None of these stats were garbage time yards. Ruder threw for 370 yards 1 TD and 2 picks. He’s been here for around 2 months, and if he wasn’t good, why did he take the starting job from Aune?

Because Aune is also not that good. Its an indictment on SL.

greenminer · September 12, 2021

11 minutes ago, Side.Show.Joe said:

Yeah, and the defense also gave up scoring plays (not drives) of ....

62 yards

58 yards

29 yards

19 yards

& 85 yards

I don't call that massive improvement.

Giving up a big play can be singled down to one misstep, or a bad coaching decision. If you're giving up 62 yards after five 3rd down conversions, you're looking at a lot more problems.

Edited September 12, 2021 by greenminer

NorthTexasWeLove · September 12, 2021

This is where we're at as a program under a 6-year head coach... 24-point moral victory drubbings. Yay us.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · September 12, 2021

12 minutes ago, outoftown said:

Because Aune is also not that good. Its an indictment on SL.

Well then we shouldn’t expect more from him. If he’s not good enough to start, then I don’t see why people want him in. His first pass missed Shorter by 10 feet

Mean Green Matt · September 12, 2021

I see a lot of “6 years in and this is what we have?” comments. Given the history of our program, where we are should be a shock to absolutely no one.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · September 12, 2021

Just now, Mean Green Matt said:

I see a lot of “6 years in and this is what we have?” comments. Given the history of our program, where we are should be a shock to absolutely no one.

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Side.Show.Joe · September 12, 2021

10 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

When the offense goes 3 and out very fast, and gets them field position that’s ranging from the 35-45 in our territory doesn’t help.

Youre clearly oblivious to improvement because it was clear. When the opposing team wears you down, and the offense can’t convert on 3rd down, the bigger plays are gonna happen.

If our defense was worn out, is it is on the coaches. SMU's defense wasn't worn out and they were on the field longer.

SMU's offense only held the ball for 23 minutes. UNT's offense had the ball for almost 36 minutes (that means our defense wasn;t on the field as long as SMU's). Both teams put up over 500 yards of offense, but SMU's defense didn't wear out.

The UNT defense is improved, but not massively. You're going to have to peddle that spin to someone else. I watched the game.

Udomann · September 12, 2021

5 minutes ago, Mean Green Matt said:

I see a lot of “6 years in and this is what we have?” comments. Given the history of our program, where we are should be a shock to absolutely no one.

The shock is how much money we are paying to be in the exact same position as always

MeanGreen22 · September 12, 2021

It’s a make or break year. SL is either going to earn an extension or be fired. And neither was going to be decided after game 2 of the season. So all the “Seth is a *****” folks might as well be yelling at a wall. Watching the game, our guys had more fight in them than I saw all last year. That’s extremely encouraging going into the first conference game. Defense showed they can hold their own. Offense *at times* flashed their potential. More consistent QB play will be needed, yes. The RB situation? Sheesh.. no idea what to make of that. But overall, I truly don’t have that sky is falling feeling… yet.

Edited September 12, 2021 by MeanGreen22

Felozano · September 12, 2021

We’re 1-1. If the defense can keep competing and Ruder Can continue to improve, then UNT can compete in C-USA…maybe even a bowl.

Mordecai was the biggest thorn, man. His mobility was a difference maker. He scrambled and kept plays alive when there should have been sacks. He consistently converted 3rd downs. It wore down the defense and it showed up in the 4th. Beat UAB. GMG!

Edited September 12, 2021 by Felozano

Got5onIt · September 12, 2021

37 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Well then we shouldn’t expect more from him. If he’s not good enough to start, then I don’t see why people want him in. His first pass missed Shorter by 10 feet

I think a very small delusional group (5 people) want Aune to start. He’s been a career backup under SL for a reason.

As a side note, I think the extension talk is ridiculous. Seth needs to win CUSA and his bowl game to get an extension. Anything less and he should be allowed to walk.

Edited September 12, 2021 by Got5onIt

Mean Green Matt · September 12, 2021

37 minutes ago, Udomann said:

The shock is how much money we are paying to be in the exact same position as always

That’s fair.

NT93 · September 12, 2021

I guess the definition of “massively improved “ is up for debate, but SMU had 7 points at halftime. The past two seasons they’ve had 21 and 34. That seems like massive improvement to me.
Bottom line is that the defense gave us a chance to win last night. They have done the exact opposite the past two seasons.

Edited September 12, 2021 by NT93

Wag Tag · September 12, 2021

Press coverage! How many years have been asking for this type of defense? Bad news your give the qb time he will find someone open. Good news is Mor will be the best qb we face this year. GMG

Hunter Green · September 12, 2021

2 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Where am I saying this is a morale victory? All I’m saying is, y’all are overreacting way too much. You can’t always look at the negatives in everything, when we played significantly better than anyone thought.

If you’re a fake fan, just say so. I’m all about bringing up the negativity in bad games, but really there wasn’t that much except for what I said.

A lot of us are capsulating this game into the 6 year experiment that is Seth Littrell who has never been a HC and rode the coatails of Mason Fine and Graham Harrell for his first four years. Since then, he has been exposed as a stubborn coach (which most of them are) which will cost him his job. The hiring of Phil Bennett is too little, too late. In the meantime, we are left out of any realignment possibilities because of his shortcomings as a HC. I hope I'm wrong, but the football program is not holding up its end of the bargain. All our other sports have won championships, except football.

NorthTexasWeLove · September 12, 2021

1 hour ago, Wag Tag said:

Press coverage! How many years have been asking for this type of defense? Bad news your give the qb time he will find someone open. Good news is Mor will be the best qb we face this year. GMG

Malik Willis will be, hands down, the best QB we face this season.