Will Litrell win enough games in 2021 to keep his job?

[bstnsportsfan3]

I think we have the talent and right coaching to win 7-8 games which allows Seth to keep his job. My only concern is this schedule which is very tough. We will see. Gonna be an interesting ride

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, meangreen11 said:

Maybe 15-20?

We have 22 seniors/5th year players, so I am not understanding the concern.

[Udomann]

1 hour ago, RBP79 said:

I can't imagine not winning at minimum 4 to 5 games. We're not in a P5 conference or AAC. As a matter of fact in football at least we're in the worst Division that's in the worst Conference in FBS.

And yet that possibility exists to win that or less. And its rather probable too, which scares me. Worst conference in CFB with a coach making p5 money and a winning season is not even on anyone's radar?

Oh hell no. He should be canned. But won't be due to buyout. Always happy to be wrong still.

Edited August 7, 2021 by Udomann

[UNTLifer]

2 hours ago, Udomann said:

And yet that possibility exists to win that or less. 

And yet that possibility exists to win that or more.

[southsideguy]

not a schedule I  wouldwant if my job depended on winning.  Mizzo is on the upswing, liberty, smut, it seems everyone is on the upswing well except FIU.

[GrandGreen]

Littrell's fate will rely on CUSA results.  He could lose every oc game and be here next year if NT wins 5 league games. 

[wardly]

On 8/6/2021 at 2:23 PM, Mean Green 93-98 said:

A.  It's not the university that would buy out the contract.  That would be the high-dollar donors.

B.  The $250k statement is patently false.  How much did we (or, I should say, the high-dollar donors) pay to buy out Dan McCarney's contract?

North Texas's high dollar donors would be nuts to waste money correcting Wren's mistake. Bartenders drink their mistakes, so should universities. Regarding our previous men's basketball coach, we let him finish out his 5th year because we didn't have the money to buy him out. Finally, I can't believe we are wondering in 4 or 5 wins will be enough for Seth to keep his job. Only at North Texas. This is where I came in. Expect more or you will get less.

[MrAlien]

I dont think expectations are very high for this season, 3 or 4 wins seems to be the consensus.  I think is more dependent on how those losses go.  are the games close?  is the team putting up a lot of points?  is the team taking bad penalties?

[meangreen11]

2 hours ago, wardly said:

correcting Wren's mistake.

Wren did not hire Litty 4 the record.  I’m not insinuating that is what you r saying just stating for the record/

[wardly]

1 hour ago, meangreen11 said:

Wren did not hire Litty 4 the record.  I’m not insinuating that is what you r saying just stating for the record/

He gave him the raise and contract extension, so he is responsible for us being between a rock and a hard place.

[Greenrex]

4 hours ago, MrAlien said:

I dont think expectations are very high for this season, 3 or 4 wins seems to be the consensus.  I think is more dependent on how those losses go.  are the games close?  is the team putting up a lot of points?  is the team taking bad penalties?

I happen to have high expectations with the sixth year of the highest paid coach in the conference ! I could not care less what the pundits say...Are you kidding me?

[TheColonyEagle]

"Oh man....I can't believe Littrell pulled this off this season and with the talent we have coming back next year...we're going to be in great shape. More than pleasantly surprised with the job Littrell did turning this around in 2021."

 

-Hopefully what I'm saying in January 2022

[MeanGreenTexan]

11 hours ago, Greenrex said:

I happen to have high expectations with the sixth year of the highest paid coach in the conference ! I could not care less what the pundits say...Are you kidding me?

I think there may be a disconnect between 2 different kinds of "Expectations" here.

1.  How many wins do you expect the Mean Green to have at the end of this year. 
2. How many wins do you expect Coach Littrell to produce based on his recruiting rankings, pay, resources, etc...

For me, the answers to 1 & 2 are about 3-4 games different.  And you don't want question #2's number to be higher than #1 very often, if ever.

If you asked the same questions in 2016 & 2017, question #1 would have been in the green by quite a few.  We were all very pleased. 
2018, a wash.  Expectations were high, and he delivered.
2019 & 2020, in the red by quite a few.  We're not at all pleased.

This season will be a true test for Littrell.   Is this a rebound of a few poor hires, and we get back to expectations HE HIMSELF set back in 2016-2018?   Or, is he really a 4-win/season coach that hoodwinked us in 2016-2018?

[Cr1028]

On 8/9/2021 at 9:09 AM, TheColonyEagle said:

"Oh man....I can't believe Littrell pulled this off this season and with the talent we have coming back next year...we're going to be in great shape. More than pleasantly surprised with the job Littrell did turning this around in 2021."

 

-Hopefully what I'm saying in January 2022

[TheColonyEagle]

4 hours ago, Cr1028 said: