NCAA: ‘systemic’ gender inequities

[Greenrex]

NCAA probe finds ‘systemic’ gender inequities and recommends combined basketball Final Four- The NCAA has for years treated women’s basketball as inferior to men’s, a stinging external review found, dramatically undervaluing and underfunding the women’s game in ways that go far beyond the disparate weight rooms exposed at the organization’s championships this year.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/08/03/ncaa-gender-equity-report-combined-final-four/?wpmk=1&wpisrc=al_news__alert-sports--alert-national&utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=wp_news_alert_revere&location=alert&pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJjb29raWVuYW1lIjoid3BfY3J0aWQiLCJpc3MiOiJDYXJ0YSIsImNvb2tpZXZhbHVlIjoiNTk3MmE4NGZhZGU0ZTIxYTg0ODE2NTczIiwidGFnIjoid3BfbmV3c19hbGVydF9yZXZlcmUiLCJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy53YXNoaW5ndG9ucG9zdC5jb20vc3BvcnRzLzIwMjEvMDgvMDMvbmNhYS1nZW5kZXItZXF1aXR5LXJlcG9ydC1jb21iaW5lZC1maW5hbC1mb3VyLz93cG1rPTEmd3Bpc3JjPWFsX25ld3NfX2FsZXJ0LXNwb3J0cy0tYWxlcnQtbmF0aW9uYWwmdXRtX3NvdXJjZT1hbGVydCZ1dG1fbWVkaXVtPWVtYWlsJnV0bV9jYW1wYWlnbj13cF9uZXdzX2FsZXJ0X3JldmVyZSZsb2NhdGlvbj1hbGVydCJ9.EM85rF0bRvCqpKwswjZt2ZjhKr4VBXEOAArvGYXEzlk

 

[UNTLifer]

The weight room disparity was ridiculous.

On the other hand, I would like to see a comparison of the revenue generated by men's and women's sports on all levels.

[Mean Green Matt]

Combining the men’s and women’s final fours is an awesome idea. 

[97and03]

8 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

The weight room disparity was ridiculous.

On the other hand, I would like to see a comparison of the revenue generated by men's and women's sports on all levels.

Right, but that isn’t how the law (or morality) works is it? Using that logic they should treat all men’s sports other than football and basketball like crap because nothing else makes money.

 

 

[UNTLifer]

7 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Right, but that isn’t how the law (or morality) works is it? Using that logic they should treat all men’s sports other than football and basketball like crap because nothing else makes money.

 

 

Nope, but thanks for jumping to conclusions.

[keith]

I really like the idea of combining the final four as well.  Of course, that's about the easiest, no-brainer thing to do with minimal overall effort and impact.

If we want to talk about "systemic" inequalities, then let's start addressing why Harvard has a $40+ Billion endowment and UNT is only around $200 Million.  Let's see those Ivy League elites finally put their money where their mouths are and share some of that.

[El Paso Eagle]

9 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Right, but that isn’t how the law (or morality) works is it? Using that logic they should treat all men’s sports other than football and basketball like crap because nothing else makes money.

 

The 2019 men’s tournament, the NCAA said, generated $917.8 million in revenue, and $864.6 million in net income. The 2019 women’s tournament, it said, generated $15.1 million in revenue, and that $2.8 million in net losses.

So by combining you could perhaps cut out the losses for the women's tournament but will you generate any real addition revenue for the women's tournament or just move money from the men? Following Title 9 guidelines the money spent on almost all sports outside of mens football is a loss, at best breakeven. 

[GrandGreen]

9 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Right, but that isn’t how the law (or morality) works is it? Using that logic they should treat all men’s sports other than football and basketball like crap because nothing else makes money.

 

 

 Football loses millions of dollars at NT and most NCAA schools.  It is heavily subsidized by students fees and tuition. 

As far as treating men sports badly, most men's sports were eliminated because of Title 9 compliance.   Track and field for men is primary still here because of the NCAA requirement to field 16 teams.   Mens track, indoor track and cross country account for 3 of those teams. 

There are only two sports that most fans care about:  football and men's basketball.  They don't make money, but they afford a lot of exposure and advertising for NT. 

[Rudy]

On 8/3/2021 at 8:35 PM, Mean Green Matt said:

Combining the men’s and women’s final fours is an awesome idea. 

That's for the fan to decide.

 

 

[Mean Green Matt]

57 minutes ago, Rudy said:

That's for the fan to decide.

 

 

It doesn’t do harm to the men’s final four. It does massive benefit for the women’s final four. 

[UNTLifer]

I would like to see them address the forming monopolies of the "power" conferences.

[Rudy]

9 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

It doesn’t do harm to the men’s final four. It does massive benefit for the women’s final four. 

Me thinks you missed the joke. 

[Mean Green Matt]

5 hours ago, Rudy said:

Me thinks you missed the joke. 

Oh. 😕

[MeanGreenTexan]

2 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

Oh. 😕

I got it:

 

[MDH]

16 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

I would like to see them address the forming monopolies of the "power" conferences.

So some wealth and power redistribution might be in order? 

[Rudy]

4 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I got it:

 

Yay!