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[Coffee and TV]

8 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Parler?  It was run out of business by the liberal leaning social media sites, period.

Yeah sure, totally wasn't the hate speech and the conspiracy to commit treason parts. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

2 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

Then I'm not quite sure you get what I'm saying then. 

If 20% of the insurrections came from gomeangreen.com then the site would probably be shut down, the same way that action was taken against parler on the app stores. UNT would probably be under a ton of scrutiny purely for the loose affiliation with them, and I bet a lot of us would be banned from UNT sporting events rightly or wrongly. 

If 20% of the insurrections are police or military, then what does that say about the culture, training, and standards that are currently set for these institutions? 

OK.  I see now (well, maybe I dont).   
We're getting off on a tangent I think with the introduction of the Capitol insurrection... so now we're solely talking about that, and not the title of the thread?     

So, instead of >17% of police being murderous racists, >17% are Trumpist insurrectionists.   Is that right? 
If you're saying that, I am much closer to agreeing with you, sadly.   

It shouldn't surprise anyone that police/military would support a conservative politician, but (and I think I'm starting to flirt with the line that could possibly get me banned) I'm flabbergasted at how many people who, 5-6 years ago, would consider themselves "conservatives" turned out to be full-fledged Trumpists today (seems like a larger number than 17%, sadly).

[MeanGreenTexan]

13 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Parler?  It was run out of business by the liberal leaning social media sites, period.

 

4 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

Yeah sure, totally wasn't the hate speech and the conspiracy to commit treason parts. 

Y'all are both naive, or deceitful if you fully believe either/or.

[Coffee and TV]

20 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

OK.  I see now (well, maybe I dont).   
We're getting off on a tangent I think with the introduction of the Capitol insurrection... so now we're solely talking about that, and not the title of the thread?     

So, instead of >17% of police being murderous racists, >17% are Trumpist insurrectionists.   Is that right? 
If you're saying that, I am much closer to agreeing with you, sadly.   
 

I'm really not saying either way and I didn't mean to stray from the topic. It's 4 pages full of talk and recent activities of the police nationwide and people discussing reforms. I added a story that's very relevant to the topic at hand, but it's not a "see these cops are all insurrectionists trumpers", simply that the article reveals an unusually high number of police belong to those doing the most illegal of acts 4 months ago. So does that mean 20% of them supported it? I won't make that conclusion, but it speaks to the culture of police when you have one or two similar occupations making up that large of a percentage.

16 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

 

Y'all are both naive, or deceitful if you fully believe either/or.

Here's a portion of AWS' lawsuit into why they dropped them, so make of that what you will.  Please don't make me defend amazon any more than i have to though. 

 

[MeanGreenTexan]

19 minutes ago, Coffee and TV said:

I'm really not saying either way and I didn't mean to stray from the topic. It's 4 pages full of talk and recent activities of the police nationwide and people discussing reforms. I added a story that's very relevant to the topic at hand, but it's not a "see these cops are all insurrectionists trumpers", simply that the article reveals an unusually high number of police belong to those doing the most illegal of acts 4 months ago. So does that mean 20% of them supported it? I won't make that conclusion, but it speaks to the culture of police when you have one or two similar occupations making up that large of a percentage.

Here's a portion of AWS' lawsuit into why they dropped them, so make of that what you will.  Please don't make me defend amazon any more than i have to though. 

 

Of course Amazon will bring an actual reason for punting a controversial platform off their cloud.    But AWS hosts all kinds of stuff that, if brought to light, would probably be very embarrassing for them.   Parler was a very public flashpoint, and if Amazon allowed it to stay on their cloud, they would be grilled by every left- leaning (and most centerist) media outlets across the nation for aiding in the hate-speech, even though they have nothing to do with the hate speech itself.  The court of public opinion spoke.  Amazon listened & acted.   I can't blame them.   If Parler flew under the radar though, they'd likely still be a high-paying customer for Jeff Bezos to this day.

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, Coffee and TV said:

Yeah sure, totally wasn't the hate speech and the conspiracy to commit treason parts. 

Unlike the Trump derangement syndrome in the MSM?

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

3 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

high-paying customer

Hard to high paying when you don't have revenue. They had no advertising dollars or user fees. Parler was never going to make it with their content model. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

55 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

Hard to high paying when you don't have revenue. They had no advertising dollars or user fees. Parler was never going to make it with their content model. 

You don’t think the MyPillow guy, the NRA, Newsmax & all the other followers wouldn’t pay through the nose for every bit of space they could possibly take up on there?

[El Paso Eagle]

5 hours ago, Coffee and TV said:

I'm really not saying either way and I didn't mean to stray from the topic. It's 4 pages full of talk and recent activities of the police nationwide and people discussing reforms. I added a story that's very relevant to the topic at hand, but it's not a "see these cops are all insurrectionists trumpers", simply that the article reveals an unusually high number of police belong to those doing the most illegal of acts 4 months ago. So does that mean 20% of them supported it? I won't make that conclusion, but it speaks to the culture of police when you have one or two similar occupations making up that large of a percentage.

Here's a portion of AWS' lawsuit into why they dropped them, so make of that what you will.  Please don't make me defend amazon any more than i have to though. 

 

Just wondering how many acts of violence or even murders have been live streamed on Facebook? Should they be removed?

[Rudy]

10 hours ago, greenminer said:

We need to stop this kind of language, IMO.  "You're dumb and gullible" falls right into the fighting/labeling that 1) keeps us divided and, thus 2) amplifies the power/wealth of our leaders.  Would rather us try and understand how we go to this place.

Having said that, I see there are people that have given up on unity and only interested in burying the other side.

Well, in a thread that had the potential to be a powder keg, it's been a civil discussion. Some people can't handle that. 

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

You don’t think the MyPillow guy, the NRA, Newsmax & all the other followers wouldn’t pay through the nose for every bit of space they could possibly take up on there?

Pretty poor examples though. NRA is in bankruptcy and MyPillow is near dead.

Parler wanted to work on non-ad revenue. Their model was to profit off "influencers" peddling crap in content. However, they saw very few real "influencers" move over.. since products pay way more on twitter and Instagram. Parler didn't have a good business plan.

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Just wondering how many acts of violence or even murders have been live streamed on Facebook? Should they be removed?

I mean, fair question? The two murders i saw live streamed were cops murdering black men in Minnesota. 

[Coffee and TV]

10 hours ago, Rudy said:

Well, in a thread that had the potential to be a powder keg, it's been a civil discussion. Some people can't handle that. 

Will someone please think of those poor insurrectionists! People are calling them stupid on the internet! It's so uncivilized!

[Coffee and TV]

11 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

Just wondering how many acts of violence or even murders have been live streamed on Facebook? Should they be removed?

Yes, for plenty of reasons beyond that though. 

[Coffee and TV]

14 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Unlike the Trump derangement syndrome in the MSM?

Trump is a deranged person, is that what you meant to say? 

[MeanGreenTexan]

9 hours ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

Pretty poor examples though. NRA is in bankruptcy and MyPillow is near dead.

Parler wanted to work on non-ad revenue. Their model was to profit off "influencers" peddling crap in content. However, they saw very few real "influencers" move over.. since products pay way more on twitter and Instagram. Parler didn't have a good business plan.

Wow.   Who'da thunk I would learn about Parler's business model from SteaminWillieBeamin!    Thank you for the education.  I truly had no idea (not that I really cared).

Either way, it's best for America that it's gone.

[ColoradoEagle]

On 4/27/2021 at 8:25 PM, El Paso Eagle said:

Just wondering how many acts of violence or even murders have been live streamed on Facebook? Should they be removed?

Facebook has its share of bad decision making, and gross negligence that has/is affected the country. Even with that said, I wouldn't put them on the same level as Parler. With Parler, the hate speech was a feature not a bug. That is why they were swiftly removed from all platforms.

[UNTLifer]

On 4/28/2021 at 7:38 AM, Coffee and TV said:

Trump is a deranged person, is that what you meant to say? 

Ol' Joe is proving to be quite the mental genius.

[Coffee and TV]

48 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Ol' Joe is proving to be quite the mental genius.

Didn't vote for him, but he already has a better approval rating than Trump ever did, so it seems the most people are satisfied with his approach. 

[UNTLifer]

6 hours ago, Coffee and TV said:

Didn't vote for him, but he already has a better approval rating than Trump ever did, so it seems the most people are satisfied with his approach. 

Are you satisfied with his approach?  If so, what areas are you happy with?

[Coffee and TV]

12 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Are you satisfied with his approach?  If so, what areas are you happy with?

I absolutely am, he's surprised me so far. I'm not gonna get in a back and forth about what I'm happy with, so I'll just say I appreciate having a president that doesn't promote the qanon brainwashing cult the way the previous guy did. 

[ntmeangreen11]

12 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Are you satisfied with his approach?  If so, what areas are you happy with?

 

I am happy we have a president who's not getting so triggered by what people say about him and going to twitter to vent about it like a tween who got turned down by her crush.

25,000+ tweets over four years. That is an outrageously unhealthy amount of screen time for anyone, let alone the freaking president.

I am curious what direction the Republican party goes in. If they can restore some honor with a respectable candidate they could easily win back people like myself whos beliefs lean more Republican but were completely turned off by the Qanon takeover. That Psyop has turned a lot of people I had great respect for in to complete nutjobs. And it was birthed in an online forum where like minded frustrated incels gathered, just crazy the impact it's had on the average joe who leans republican and has a facebook account.

At least people on both sides seem to be a little more civil now.

[UNTLifer]

25 minutes ago, ntmeangreen11 said:

 

I am happy we have a president who's not getting so triggered by what people say about him and going to twitter to vent about it like a tween who got turned down by her crush.

25,000+ tweets over four years. That is an outrageously unhealthy amount of screen time for anyone, let alone the freaking president.

I am curious what direction the Republican party goes in. If they can restore some honor with a respectable candidate they could easily win back people like myself whos beliefs lean more Republican but were completely turned off by the Qanon takeover. That Psyop has turned a lot of people I had great respect for in to complete nutjobs. And it was birthed in an online forum where like minded frustrated incels gathered, just crazy the impact it's had on the average joe who leans republican and has a facebook account.

At least people on both sides seem to be a little more civil now.

First two paragraphs:  So you are happy we have a President that doesn't post on Twitter.  I would agree although Biden has gotten "so triggered" in public events that he has called people names, challenged them to Festivus style feats of strength and threaten to take someone out back and whip them.  Nothing about policy?

Qanon did not take over the entire Republican Party just like "The Squad" hasn't taken over the entire Democratic Party although the Biden and the Dems just introduced a government heavy/socialists style agenda.

So, back to my original question, what about Biden's approach, outside of his lack of Twitter activity, is satisfying to you?

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, Coffee and TV said:

I absolutely am, he's surprised me so far. I'm not gonna get in a back and forth about what I'm happy with, so I'll just say I appreciate having a president that doesn't promote the qanon brainwashing cult the way the previous guy did. 

I am not asking for a back and forth, I am just curious about what policies Biden has endorsed, rolled out, or proposed that you are happy with?  

Look, I think Trump was a thin-skinned blowhard 99% of the time and didn't like that he didn't disavow conspiracy loonies, but I also agreed with a number of his policies that were enacted to take care of our country first.

[MeanGreenTexan]

We're pretty much off-topic and now into full-fledged political talk here.     Sadly, this thread will not last much longer unless there's a pretty hard pivot back on subject.