Fire The D Coordinator Today

GMG24 · December 22, 2020

4 hours ago, Rudy said:

So you're saying there should have been film available to us, of what they were going to do...

Yup. LOL in college football it is just in one big video bank I believe so you can watch anyone's at anytime. At least by conference for sure, but I think they can also access other conferences as well. Playing a team like that you have to bring a 4th "Rusher" even if it is an OLB blitzing off the edge something to help offset the fact that the TE creates an extra gap. We will see where we go from here, but I am all about 4 DL with their hands in the dirt unless you're going to be willing to blitz 1 LB, preferably the OLB, everytime to create a 4th rusher.

Hunter Green · December 22, 2020

15 minutes ago, GMG24 said:

Yup. LOL in college football it is just in one big video bank I believe so you can watch anyone's at anytime. At least by conference for sure, but I think they can also access other conferences as well. Playing a team like that you have to bring a 4th "Rusher" even if it is an OLB blitzing off the edge something to help offset the fact that the TE creates an extra gap. We will see where we go from here, but I am all about 4 DL with their hands in the dirt unless you're going to be willing to blitz 1 LB, preferably the OLB, everytime to create a 4th rusher.

I agree. But did you see how badly our guys were getting manhandled? Especially the second half. It was like men against boys.

Sad.

GMG24 · December 22, 2020

That is exactly what that offense is designed to do, wear you down to the point where you can be completely physically dominated. When your offense aint doing much but a first down and a punt then its tough to every recover and be ready to go out there and have 1/2 320 pound dudes lean on you and maul you. We absolutely need to get bigger, faster, and stronger but that means they gotta let the S&C staff do their job and push these guys to the max.

MeanGreenTexan · December 22, 2020

8 hours ago, xyresic said:

Vito reported all one one year deals I believe, someone can probably clarify. Either way if its a 2 year deal I don't think buying it out is an obstacle.

This is encouraging.

untbowler · December 23, 2020

Bowen will be coming back, SL is loyal to friends/buddies to his own detriment

Of course I hope I am wrong.

Edited December 23, 2020 by untbowler

97and03 · December 24, 2020

On 12/23/2020 at 8:22 PM, untbowler said:

Bowen will be coming back, SL is loyal to friends/buddies to his own detriment

Of course I hope I am wrong.

I am NOT endorsing Bowen.

but would you be ok if he stays and transitions the defense to a four man front (which I think is his style) in the off season?

Venson · December 24, 2020

21 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

I am NOT endorsing Bowen.

but would you be ok if he stays and transitions the defense to a four man front (which I think is his style) in the off season?

Hell no I would not be okay with it. He never adjusted. I get he has a base defense that he wants to play, but good coaches adjust to what the offense is doing to you. There is no way I would have let App State run that same play three times to the left and then once to the right for the same result. They would have had to beat me throwing the football before I would have let that guy set a new bowl record on me for rushing yards.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · December 24, 2020

1 hour ago, 97and03 said:

I am NOT endorsing Bowen.

but would you be ok if he stays and transitions the defense to a four man front (which I think is his style) in the off season?

I know you aren’t talking to me, but if he could just change the scheme or do something that makes the defense allow less than 7 yards a play, I would be fine. I doubt that happens, but we’ll see.

Venson · December 24, 2020

Maybe Bowen was a person to cover the gap for a year. Maybe he called SL and needed a nice one year paycheck and SL was just helping out a friend. Maybe they agreed to a one year deal and he will be gone on his own. Maybe SL will hire the real DC this year. Okay. I better never drink beer this early in the morning again. Haha.

SilverEagle · December 25, 2020

https://dentonrc.com/rsssports/brett-vito-app-state-running-back-peoples-postgame-comment-points-to-unts-issues-defensively/article_6489f98f-b069-5253-b1d3-56d65a05abba.html

Some of my favorite quotes.....

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“After we watched film, we knew that we were going to have a good chance to run the ball,” Peoples said.

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“First and foremost, you have to put it on coaches,” Littrell said. “It’s my job as the head coach to make sure these guys are in the best position to be successful. From there, it’s up to people to do their jobs.”

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Littrell dumped Troy Reffett as his coordinator after UNT allowed 32.5 points per game in 2019 and brought on Clint Bowen to be a part of the solution.

The Mean Green weren’t any better this year than they were last year.

Is it the scheme? A lack of talent?

Those are the questions Littrell is paid $1.8 million per season to answer.

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“We have to do a better job overall,” Littrell said. “I look forward to the offseason.”

I wonder how many of you out there in Mean Green land, who are either supervisors of a department, or are owners of a business, would accept these comments/explanations from an employee who is underperforming as much as SL has been regarding the bottom line......Conference championships/Bowl wins.

southsideguy · December 26, 2020

If we would have seen some improvement along the way I might feel different about the DC. However, we only got worse and worse. The light at the end of the tunnel was a train. We got run over by ever team we played.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · December 26, 2020

21 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

https://dentonrc.com/rsssports/brett-vito-app-state-running-back-peoples-postgame-comment-points-to-unts-issues-defensively/article_6489f98f-b069-5253-b1d3-56d65a05abba.html

Some of my favorite quotes.....

I wonder how many of you out there in Mean Green land, who are either supervisors of a department, or are owners of a business, would accept these comments/explanations from an employee who is underperforming as much as SL has been regarding the bottom line......Conference championships/Bowl wins.

I’ve seen people on here say “how is this on the coaching”, but then Seth and the OPPOSING team basically say it’s coaching.

I don’t take a lot from what Seth says because most of the time it’s repeated and full of BS that never happens the next week, but at least he’s being honest and not sweeping the fact that they are just not that good.

SilverEagle · December 26, 2020

2 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

I’ve seen people on here say “how is this on the coaching”, but then Seth and the OPPOSING team basically say it’s coaching.

I don’t take a lot from what Seth says because most of the time it’s repeated and full of BS that never happens the next week, but at least he’s being honest and not sweeping the fact that they are just not that good.

Amongst the guys that I used to hang out with, when we encountered BS that was basically re-run-coach-speak BS, we used to say "That's some pretty lame BS". Even when we knew it was BS, we always gave extra points to creativity.

We don't even get that for the 1.8 mil. Just quotes from "Captain Obvious"

Yet another reason that I miss Hayden Fry.

Edited December 26, 2020 by SilverEagle

GMoney · December 27, 2020

Day 6 and he still has the DC job!

greenminer · December 28, 2020

11 hours ago, GMoney said:

Day 6 and he still has the DC job!

With our country club staff and the state of COVID, are you really surprised?

southsideguy · December 28, 2020

I guess SL has no worries about his job, if he felt any heat he would dump staff like the UTEP HC did. The bigger question is will SL install a fourth running play in next years play book?

NorthTexasWeLove · December 28, 2020

Miraculous.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · December 28, 2020

13 hours ago, greenminer said:

With our country club staff and the state of COVID, are you really surprised?

I hope he stops hiring his buddies. It’s getting ridiculous, and favoritism seems to be happening inside the program.

UNTLifer · December 28, 2020

25 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

and favoritism seems to be happening inside the program.

Really? How so?

Withers940 · December 29, 2020

If he's not gone by now, He's not getting fired or let go. If he was going to be fired, he would be gone right after the bowl game. There is no reason for him to stick around for another month if he was going to be fired.

GMG24 · December 29, 2020

22 hours ago, Withers940 said:

If he's not gone by now, He's not getting fired or let go. If he was going to be fired, he would be gone right after the bowl game. There is no reason for him to stick around for another month if he was going to be fired.

Why? They’re all on vacation until after the 1st

Side Show Joe · December 30, 2020

Yeah, I could see waiting until after the Christmas and New Year holiday to fire coaches... unless there are bonuses for still being employed by the university in 2021.

UNTLifer · December 30, 2020

3 hours ago, Side Show Joe said:

Yeah, I could see waiting until after the Christmas and New Year holiday to fire coaches... unless there are bonuses for still being employed by the university in 2021.

B.S. If Seth is serious, he should have fired him via text at 11pm Christmas Eve.