Great article on the old SWC

[untjim1995]

'I don't wish either of them well' -- The demise of the Southwest Conference, 25 years later (espn.com)

 

I wish they had asked Jordan Case or Scott Davis what it was like to have to compete against these teams who wouldn't allow us into their club.

[PlummMeanGreen]

Great article! 👍👍

The chemistry & timing was never good for UNT to be invited. It was said UT’s DKR was for it.
Arkansas AD Frank Broyles was already complaining about “too many Texas schools” in the SWC.  He added there were only “2” rivalries in the SWC—those Texas SWC schools vs U of Texas & those Texas SWC schools vs U of Arkansas. (He was right, too).

Edited December 2, 2020 by PlummMeanGreen

[greenminer]

Sometimes I forget Rice was once a part of that crowd.  Wonder what happened to them, to fall so far.

[UNTLifer]

41 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Sometimes I forget Rice was once a part of that crowd.  Wonder what happened to them, to fall so far.

Academic integrity.

[MeanGreenTexan]

2 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Academic integrity.

That's not mutually exclusive (see Stanford, Vandy, Duke, Northwestern, etc...)  
I think their admin just plain doesn't care about sports.  Their Athletics hires & funding don't line up with their general endowment ($6.8 Billion), as compared to UNT's ($210 Million), even though we pay our HC way more.
They apparently don't have huge-money sports donors that care enough to make them a juggernaut program like they most-certainly could be.

[UNTLifer]

Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

That's not mutually exclusive (see Stanford, Vandy, Duke, Northwestern, etc...)  
I think their admin just plain doesn't care about sports.  Their Athletics hires & funding don't line up with their general endowment ($6.8 Billion), as compared to UNT's ($210 Million), even though we pay our HC way more.
They apparently don't have huge-money sports donors that care enough to make them a juggernaut program like they most-certainly could be.

It was a tongue in cheek shot at the other schools in the SWC that look the other way for athletics.

[MeanGreenTexan]

2 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

It was a tongue in cheek shot at the other schools in the SWC that look the other way for athletics.

You mean "integrity" in general?  (looking at you SMU & Baylor)  ...because they're all still pretty good "academically" (looking at you Tech).

[Mean Green 93-98]

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

Sometimes I forget Rice was once a part of that crowd.  Wonder what happened to them, to fall so far.

Lack of political clout, more than anything.  Rice's athletics at the close of the SWC were better than both Baylor's and Tech's.  Baylor got in solely because they had alumni in high places.

[untjim1995]

Rice is where they should be. They are small, sit in a big pro city, and don’t have any political clout. 
 

The Power 5 will eventually drop to a Power 4 and schools like TCU, Baylor, and others like them will get demoted. Quite frankly, a culling of the Power Leagues will be good for the G5 conferences.