DRC: UTEP coach Dimel says UTEP never seriously considered site change, calls for UNT to forfeit if game isn't rescheduled in El Paso

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

1 hour ago, KRAM1 said:

give up a home game for our fans and head to El Paso to play

They already announced there were going to be no fans at the game - days earlier. 

So given that assumption for your hypothetical - no, I would not be mad at all. I would be mad that we prevented me from watching a game that weekend. 

[bstnsportsfan3]

14 hours ago, peanuts104 said:

There is no danger. If the teams are negative there is no danger. I think they didn't want to play and possibly lose to UTEP. Just like the Houston game. I'm getting on the get rid of SL train now, and I'm also wanting to start a get rid of Baker train. This is ridiculous.

[Green Lantern]

[meangreenJW]

14 hours ago, peanuts104 said:

Like cancelling games when there is no real reason to do it? Reminder, no UTEP or UNT players or coaches have tested positive for covid.

Gonna need to add Smatresk to your fire train there pal. It was clear from both sides this was a presidential decision. Apparently you think Smatresk was so moved by Seth's fears of the mighty Miners that he, Baker and Seth agreed to cancel the game. What the heck?

[meangreenJW]

2 hours ago, KRAM1 said:

Soooooo...if this had been a home game for UNT and Denton was in the midst of a significant coronavirus outbreak when all our hospital beds were full, and UTEP thought better about sending its team and personnel into that virus hot bed and the UTEP folks suggested we just pack up, give up a home game for our fans and head to El Paso to play that would be just fine, right? I seriously doubt that UNT would have agreed to such a move either.  What ya think?  I also think our fans would be pretty hacked off that UTEP cancelled.

I don't blame UTEP for not moving. I blame UTEP for acting like UNT is wrong for putting health and safety first. one of the differences here is I don't believe there is anyway UNT would attempt to have a football game (fans or no fans) in the midst of a county wide stay at home order with no hospital beds available, the convention center two blocks away being turned into a makeshift hospital by the governor, etc. That being said, UTEP doesn't have to move the game but my guess is they'll see more of this if their numbers don't change.

[BillySee58]

59 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

They already announced there were going to be no fans at the game - days earlier. 

So given that assumption for your hypothetical - no, I would not be mad at all. I would be mad that we prevented me from watching a game that weekend. 

Exactly. And if Denton were in the same position El Paso is in and we rejected that offer, I would be mad at us rejecting a game when our subsequent weeks are likely in jeopardy as well. Would much rather play the game away than hope that’s the only game the rest of the season for either team that gets cancelled for us to both make it up.

[GreenN'walinsVet]

Honestly this speaks to the lack of leadership at the conference level. CUSA should have stepped in a made the decision one way or the other (postpone or move the game). Not let the schools let it play out over social media.

[KRAM1]

2 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Although I don’t think Kram has the most pure intentions here I do think it is a fair question for him to ask at the next coach’s show. I encourage him to ask SL his thoughts if the roles were reversed how he would react. 

You can send it in if you think it is a good question. And, please enlighten me...what “impure intention” do I have here. I am anxious to know what I was thinking other than what I wrote. 

[KRAM1]

1 hour ago, GreenN'walinsVet said:

Honestly this speaks to the lack of leadership at the conference level. CUSA should have stepped in a made the decision one way or the other (postpone or move the game). Not let the schools let it play out over social media.

Bingo! 

[Cougar King]

4 hours ago, Withers940 said:

@peanuts104 if it was your objective to grab the record for the most down votes in a 48 hour period, Mission Accomplished. I never thought anyone would beat @Cougar King record!!

I'm saddened that my record was broken.

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

5 hours ago, Withers940 said:

@peanuts104 if it was your objective to grab the record for the most down votes in a 48 hour period, Mission Accomplished. I never thought anyone would beat @Cougar King record!!

I was about to say! 100?

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

2 hours ago, GreenN'walinsVet said:

Honestly this speaks to the lack of leadership at the conference level. CUSA should have stepped in a made the decision one way or the other (postpone or move the game). Not let the schools let it play out over social media.

UTEP fans are mad, but it’s nUTSAck fans that are fueling the fire on Twitter. 
I guess they love us that much...

[GrandGreen]

4 hours ago, GreenN'walinsVet said:

Honestly this speaks to the lack of leadership at the conference level. CUSA should have stepped in a made the decision one way or the other (postpone or move the game). Not let the schools let it play out over social media.

The conference cannot make any school play a game.

They can punish a school for not playing, but that is certainly not going to happen.

What the conference should do is sanction UTEP for their leadership's stupid comments.  

Edited October 30, 2020 by GrandGreen

[CaribbeanGreen]

Two Week Shutdown of all Non-Essential Services in El Paso

[UNTexas]

9 hours ago, greenminer said:

We offered to cover their travel expenses.  UTEP Prez puts out initial communication that tries to put the entire weight of this decision on us, as if they had no say.  I think that makes this entire thing messier than it had to be.

Personally, I don't understand why UTEP didn't agree to travel.  I think if the circumstances were reversed, including the offer to cover travel, I seriously think we would have agreed.  Our Matt Simon fans would be happy to bring up the Safeway parking lot sentiment.  ANYWHERE ANYTIME BABY.  Baker and Co would have traveled.

It appears to me that UTEP is throwing a bit of a temper tantrum. They don't get that the optics are bad. Canceling is a smart move. Being from EP I would accept a free trip up here any day of the week. They also could have contacted recruits to attend. As a parent, I  would think being unprofessional and upset about a game cancelation (and its just a game) over the safety concerns would steer me away from UTEP if my kid was a recruit. (But then again I wouldn't let my kids go to UTEP anyway.) Anyway, their coach needs to chill out and grow up. 

[Hunter Green]

On 10/28/2020 at 3:51 PM, xyresic said:

Per Football Scoop and the younger Barnett we were in contact with UTEP and CUSA in an effort to make this a mutual decision & they refused.  We offered to foot the bill for them to play here and they refused. Then they put out a PR blasting us, their President blasted us and then Dimel said we should forfeit. Their response has been ridiculous and I am embarrassed for them.

I very much forward to playing them in December or next year and showing absolutely no mercy.

This is what makes for heated rivalries!

Get some, Miners!

[eulessismore]

If Dimel could get UNT to forfeit, getting a UTEP win out of it, that could get him to winning more than 3 games for the first time since 1999, a considerable achievement for him, but not one to ever get him hired at Houston again.

[Texas Stranger]

El Paso ISD and surrounding districts have cancelled Friday Night Lights for at least 2 weeks.

[El Paso Eagle]

1 hour ago, Texas Stranger said:

El Paso ISD and surrounding districts have cancelled Friday Night Lights for at least 2 weeks.

Yet the geniuses that run the district are still planning on having teachers and some students return as early as mid next week

[MeanMag]

Conference schools already complain about going to UTEP when the virus isn't around. At a time when UTEP needs friends to be in a conference in BFE, they aren't looking for UNT's help. I can't imagine the attitude on display will win them many friends at other schools, either. WTF is their problem?

[tmjerm]

We own UTEP And they’re sad about it

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