Breaking (Updated follow-up with arrest affidavit information) -- Tate Wallis arrested

[meangreen11]

So do we know for a fact he is guilty?  I will say this, I have heard Argyle is like a soap opera these days with helicopter moms so it wouldn't surpise me if this was a false allegation.  That said the dude has one strike against him already so that makes it hard.

[UNT Mean Green]

12 hours ago, Brett Vito said:

https://dentonrc.com/news/unt-assistant-football-coach-on-leave-following-arrest/article_ac4501c3-6d4f-51ee-a8cf-ecdacc972b1d.html

 

 

Innocent until proven guilty. Hopefully the legal process gets the real facts. Often times these cases are mistakingly decided, and can be perpetually damaging to the accuser or the perpetrator. 

[UNT Mean Green]

11 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Insane they didn't do any background check... shame

You've got to be kidding - what a naive statement. Of course UNT conducted a background check during the interview process, and I'd bet this was a more scrutinizing one (given the Baylor accusations of the past). 

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

Wow someone is mad at me! lol nearly 10 downvotes combined on my most recent  post!

[H-towngreen]

29 minutes ago, tmjerm said:

Where did you read that?

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

@H-towngreen that is the "offense date" - not the bond date. That says he was brought in yesterday. 

[MCMLXXX]

18 minutes ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Wow someone is mad at me! lol nearly 10 downvotes combined on my most recent  post!

Welcome to the Mean Green family. Long term fans are always  glass half full folks. The proper perspective is to acknowledge that at least 10 people took the time to read your post. Go Mean Green!

[H-towngreen]

9 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

@H-towngreen that is the "offense date" - not the bond date. That says he was brought in yesterday. 

You’re right! Misread that

[UNTLifer]

5 hours ago, Gibbz said:

This coaching staff is such a clown show.

Wow.  So what has Littrell, Mainord, Bloesch, Cobbs, etc... done that constitutes a "clown show?"

[MeanGreenTexan]

Y'all,
These kinds of charges aren't brought to the point of arrest lightly.  

NT needs to go ahead and get out from under this mess.  He cannot stay "on paid administrative leave" for very long.  Hoping Seth is already working his contacts to get someone in here.

[UNTLifer]

11 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

I said the big question is what knowledge did they have of the situation when he was hired. If it’s none, then it’s none. Not implying anything, just asking the question.

I think it is how you worded the first post:

 

Quote

Posted 12 hours ago

This isn’t something that caught the surprise of the people above him (i.e. Littrell and Wren) but the big question that looms is what was the knowledge on this when he was hired?

 

I read this to mean that you were stating Littrell and Baker were aware and were not surprised by this.

Edited September 4, 2020 by UNTLifer

[El Paso Eagle]

9 hours ago, TheReal_jayD said:

So you admit you jump to conclusions without reading all the details. 

He "might" be guilty and if he is he deserves what comes his way. Seems like, at least at this point, there was more evidence against the Duke Lacrosse team and we see how that turned out. Seems curious how some people are willing to go the Guilty until proven innocent for some, and for others, be willing to let almost anything slide.

[UNTLifer]

I may be wrong in how the system works, but it appears there was an accusation that was investigated and there was enough evidence there to charge him.  

[BillySee58]

10 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

I think it is how you worded the first post:

 

I read this to mean that you were stating Littrell and Baker were aware and were not surprised by this.

They were aware in the impending days leading up to the arrest, which is why I said it did not catch them by surprise when the arrest happened. But my question was how much knowledge on this case did they have/was available when they hired him. Emmitt answered it. 

[jtm0097]

2 hours ago, Green Crazy said:

Just curious. was that student under 17? 

Yeah, it was with a girl that was 16 at the time.

[Green Crazy]

Just now, jtm0097 said:

Yeah, it was with a girl that was 16 at the time.

Ok, it seems like his case is different.  I think his case doesn't involve a minor.

[MeanGreenTexan]

8 minutes ago, El Paso Eagle said:

He "might" be guilty and if he is he deserves what comes his way. Seems like, at least at this point, there was more evidence against the Duke Lacrosse team and we see how that turned out. Seems curious how some people are willing to go the Guilty until proven innocent for some, and for others, be willing to let almost anything slide.

I was wondering how long it would take for this to come up...      4 pages.  Pretty good y'all!

Got any more examples?

[MeanGreenTexan]

13 hours ago, Marty said:

Promote Quinn Shanbour to QB coach.

If Littrell can't find someone of quality to join last-minute, I don't have a huge problem with this.    Shanbour is a brilliant football mind.

[Uncle]

[Moobs]

The arrest record has a "Count 1" and "Count 2." on it.  What does that mean?  Was there one incident in October with 2 students and then another incident in December with one of those students again?

#FireHisAss

[SilverEagle]

23 minutes ago, Uncle said:

In case people are wondering about TDPRS getting involved. They will be assessing the potential safety issues of the children in the home of the accused.

[SilverEagle]

14 hours ago, Marty said:

Promote Quinn Shanbour to QB coach.

Well, this makes a lot of sense. Especially since he has helped coach just about every QB arriving here since Canales was coaching here. AND his stated career goal has been to coach.

[MeanGreenTexan]

26 minutes ago, Uncle said:

So this has been investigated since this Spring.   Good. Wallis was already hired here by the time the allegations came out, so that should clear Littrell & Baker for the most part.   

Now, if Wallis kept this secret from Littrell & Baker up until recently, then it makes it even worse for his already bruised character.
 
If he let Littrell &/or Baker know at that time (Spring), and no actions were taken (putting him on administrative leave at that time) then it looks worse for Littrell &/or Baker.

[southsideguy]

We can give Chico a call he coached Phil Rivers........😉

[peanuts104]

2 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Shanbour is a brilliant football mind.

I don't mean to be rude, but huh? Where are you getting that?