Cancel Culture Strikes Again

[MDH]

Solely blaming China is close to blaming Sonic for your obesity while disregarding your personal chili cheese dog consumption. Maybe a bad analogy because who can say no to such fine fare that you don't even need to leave your car for?

[Cr1028]

On 8/7/2020 at 7:52 AM, MDH said:

Solely blaming China is close to blaming Sonic for your obesity while disregarding your personal chili cheese dog consumption. Maybe a bad analogy because who can say no to such fine fare that you don't even need to leave your car for?

Those are not close to the same thing, a better analogy would be a teenager setting a forest fire with a tossed cigarette and then you saying the surrounding homeowners whose homes burned were just as at fault. If the teenager would’ve put his cigarette out completely, there wouldn’t have been a forest fire.
 

Nobody is saying that the other countries around the world couldn’t t have done a better job of slowing spread but it is difficult with the ease of international travel these days. But one thing is true, has always been true, and always will be true. The first case was in China, period. Their lack of ability or lack of desire to snuff this thing out early has grown one case into 19 million worldwide. 

Edit:Now 26.9M cases worldwide.

Edited September 5, 2020 by Cr1028

[MDH]

1 hour ago, Cr1028 said:

Those are not close to the same thing, a better analogy would be a teenager setting a forest fire with a tossed cigarette and then you saying the surrounding homeowners whose homes burned were just as at fault. If the teenager would’ve put his cigarette out completely, there wouldn’t have been a forest fire.
 

Nobody is saying that the other countries around the world couldn’t t have done a better job of slowing spread but it is difficult with the ease of international travel these days. But one thing is true, has always been true, and always will be true. The first case was in China, period. Their lack of ability or lack of desire to snuff this thing out early has grown one case into 19 million worldwide. 
 

If the fire dept fails to attend to the fire, says its a hoax, ignores the meteorologists about how it may spread, is ok with homeowners not taking any preventative measures, then are they not also partly to blame for its spread? No doubt China could have done a lot more here and they must be held accountable for hiding what they knew. But when other fire depts around the world aren't having as large of a problem as we are, maybe we need a new chief?

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

14 minutes ago, MDH said:

If the fire dept fails to attend to the fire, says its a hoax, ignores the meteorologists about how it may spread, is ok with homeowners not taking any preventative measures, then are they not also partly to blame for its spread? No doubt China could have done a lot more here and they must be held accountable for hiding what they knew. But when other fire depts around the world aren't having as large of a problem as we are, maybe we need a new chief?

...and definitely home insurance would not payout your claim if you actively took away the ability to detect and handle wildfires (like Trump did in 2018 with the Pandemic Response Team).  

[El Paso Eagle]

5 hours ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

...and definitely home insurance would not payout your claim if you actively took away the ability to detect and handle wildfires (like Trump did in 2018 with the Pandemic Response Team).  

So should Insurance companies have the right to refuse payment in the areas where mayors made the call to order the police out and let groups break in, damage, rob, and destroy businesses? Thy could say this was avoidable? Should the cities be responsible for the damages? 

Edited August 7, 2020 by El Paso Eagle

[El Paso Eagle]

3 hours ago, MDH said:

Solely blaming China is close to blaming Sonic for your obesity while disregarding your personal chili cheese dog consumption. Maybe a bad analogy because who can say no to such fine fare that you don't even need to leave your car for?

100 % agree, but also not holding China accountable is wrong. 

[Green P1]

[Cr1028]

1 hour ago, MDH said:

If the fire dept fails to attend to the fire, says its a hoax, ignores the meteorologists about how it may spread, is ok with homeowners not taking any preventative measures, then are they not also partly to blame for its spread? No doubt China could have done a lot more here and they must be held accountable for hiding what they knew. But when other fire depts around the world aren't having as large of a problem as we are, maybe we need a new chief?

It’s fine to blame the fire departments, sure, just don’t place a greater level of blame than you place on the source.

I get that you don’t like Donald Trump, most people don’t, and you have a chance to fire him in November. My point is don’t let your disdain for him throw away all common sense.

And while we are playing the blame game, make sure to include Greg Abbott, Andrew Cuomo, Gavin Newsom, Ron DeSantis and others, regardless of political affiliation, for their failures as well. Meanwhile, be sure to heap praise on the governors of Hawaii, Montana, and West Virginia. 
 

Also consider how great a job the leaders of China (once they let it go international) and North Korea did and what a poor job the leaders of the UK, Spain, Belgium, Italy, and yes even Sweden did.
 

Isn’t it something that China has one of the lowest death counts per million residents in the world yet they couldn’t prevent it from leaving their borders? So weird, almost as if it would benefit them for it to spread worldwide.

[Cr1028]

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

100 % agree, but also not holding China accountable is wrong. 

A reasonable person right there. I applaud you.

[TheColonyEagle]

On 8/5/2020 at 8:40 PM, THOR said:

so how would you have kept all 150k alive that have died frorm this virus?  

 

 

Obviously if everyone would've stayed home and every business closed until the virus went away...we could've stopped it.

 

Also not shoving a large portion of infected people into nursing homes could've helped....

 

[THOR]

2 hours ago, TheColonyEagle said:

Obviously if everyone would've stayed home and every business closed until the virus went away...we could've stopped it.

 

Also not shoving a large portion of infected people into nursing homes could've helped....

 

you forgot the sarcasm tag for your first statement

 

as for the second, you're saying that all the old people that got it would have lived if not going back to their nursing homes?  and if that's not what you're saying, then the 150k deaths were not all preventable.