WHICH WILL HAPPEN FIRST?

[Salsa_Verde]

2 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

My friend told me when he went on a campus visit at UTSA (Totally unaware of their facilities), he was in shock because he thought their main gym was their rec center and the guide told him that it was a multi-purpose facility. In the end, he came to UNT

What’s worse is they’re a conference “peer” 

[greenminer]

9 hours ago, MrAlien said:

AAC would be the popular move, but with SMU 40 min away that might be dificult

Why?

If you're a premier brand/program, a conference will want you.

See Tobacco Road-ACC basketball.

[97and03]

I have long been a MWC advocate but given the turmoil and financial losses currently, the only thing that makes sense is regional realignment. Just can’t justify playing volleyball and soccer in Hawaii given millions in budget shortfalls. 

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

15 hours ago, Salsa_Verde said:

Yes. Just be warned. It’s a dumpster fire in there 

Yikes

[MeanGreenTexan]

20 hours ago, MrAlien said:

AAC would be the popular move, but with SMU 40 min away that might be dificult

MWC makes better sense, at least the way things are now, I think the conference would love the exposure to the DFW market, I also think its a competition upgrade for all the sports. 

It would take less time to drive from Duke to NC State to UNC than it would to drive from NT to SMU.     The proximity can work.

The only problem is, if in the event Tulsa had to go, would the AAC want North Texas over a program with more sustained success over a longer period of time like LATech?   Or a team that recently made noise in the NCAA Tournament in WKU/MTSU?   

We're our own worst enemy when it comes to desirability from these other conferences, and this past football season's 4-8 record looks very bad (thankfully MBB took up the slack).   We need that 4-8 season to immediately turn around to at least an 8-4 season (preferably with a bowl WIN) to show we're still sustaining our recent success and that last year was simply an anomaly.

[SilverEagle]

23 hours ago, MCMLXXX said:

No reason for Tulsa to leave AAC if they keep FBS football. I would think if their financial problems force them to make a choice they would drop football and some Olympic sports and go all in for basketball and the MVC.

Financial problems?

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

24 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

Financial problems?

Just have a look at their football stadium

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

29 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

It would take less time to drive from Duke to NC State to UNC than it would to drive from NT to SMU.     The proximity can work.

The only problem is, if in the event Tulsa had to go, would the AAC want North Texas over a program with more sustained success over a longer period of time like LATech?   Or a team that recently made noise in the NCAA Tournament in WKU/MTSU?   

We're our own worst enemy when it comes to desirability from these other conferences, and this past football season's 4-8 record looks very bad (thankfully MBB took up the slack).   We need that 4-8 season to immediately turn around to at least an 8-4 season (preferably with a bowl WIN) to show we're still sustaining our recent success and that last year was simply an anomaly.

WKU has been winning championships in other sports minus MBB lol 

It would make sense for a program like us with SO much potential and amazing facilities, to be in a conference with some great teams and a good TV deal

[SMUleopold]

41 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

Financial problems?

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/education/university-of-tulsa-trustees-hold-fast-to-financial-hard-line/article_49ec9d32-2bd6-50d4-8f31-fac13e931821.html

Keep  in mind, UT was having problems even before Coronavirus; here's an article from a year ago: 

https://www.city-journal.org/university-of-tulsa

 

[97and03]

WKy would not fit their profile but would potentially bring a nice pot of Tournament money, which is very significant compared to what any current CUSA team could bring in terms of football or market. 

[SilverEagle]

31 minutes ago, SMUleopold said:

https://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/education/university-of-tulsa-trustees-hold-fast-to-financial-hard-line/article_49ec9d32-2bd6-50d4-8f31-fac13e931821.html

Keep  in mind, UT was having problems even before Coronavirus; here's an article from a year ago: 

https://www.city-journal.org/university-of-tulsa

 

Hmmm, not the University that I assumed they were. But then, for years I thought that they were a state school, much like U of H. I was surprised to find out that they were a private school, much like Rice. And I also assumed that they had strong ties to the Oil industry and were therefore mostly an Engineering school.

[97and03]

1 minute ago, SilverEagle said:

Hmmm, not the University that I assumed they were. But then, for years I thought that they were a state school, much like U of H. I was surprised to find out that they were a private school, much like Rice. And I also assumed that they had strong ties to the Oil industry and were therefore mostly an Engineering school.

If I recall, their AD and/or coaches had to take pay cuts a few years ago bc of their poor financial state. 

[SilverEagle]

1 minute ago, 97and03 said:

If I recall, their AD and/or coaches had to take pay cuts a few years ago bc of their poor financial state. 

…..and yet they continue to out recruit us, and play in a better conference than us.

[97and03]

2 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

…..and yet they continue to out recruit us, and play in a better conference than us.

Only one of those is true. Time to catch up with the current times. 

[SilverEagle]

6 minutes ago, 97and03 said:

Only one of those is true. Time to catch up with the current times. 

So which is untrue? Because here is how Tulsa has done recently in the NFL draft.

 

YEAR	ROUND	PICK	PLAYER
2020	4	17	Reggie Robinson
2020	5	9	Trevis Gipson
2011	6	9	Charles Clay
2008	7	21	Chris Chamberlain

[SilverEagle]

Quote

 

110 Liberty 17047.20 68.19% NR
109 Akron 17224.00 57.41% 124
108 Texas State 17489.20 58.30% 103
107 UNLV 17541.20 47.67% 110

106 Buffalo 17616.60 60.72% 105
105 Georgia Southern 17733.00 70.93% 107
104 Western Michigan 18616.60 61.64% 106
103 Tulsa 18812.00 62.71% 101
102 Troy 19254.20 64.18% 99
101 Wyoming 19683.80 67.45% 102

100 Nevada 19687.20 65.62% 90
99 North Texas 19699.40 63.86% 104
98 Ohio 19729.00 82.20% 95
97 Rice 19770.40 42.06% 100
96 Utah State 19958.00 79.51% 96
95 Old Dominion 20021.00 99.52% 97
94 Louisiana 20379.40 49.19% 89
93 Toledo 20551.00 78.31% 98
92 New Mexico 20704.60 52.79% 91
91 SMU 21122.00 66.01% 93

 

AND here we are in attendance vs Tulsa. The numbers were compiled at the end of the 2019 season and represent the average of the last five years. The last number is the previous years standing.

 

https://collegefootballnews.com/2019/07/college-football-attendance-rankings-no-1-130-2019-cfn-five-year-program-analysis

Edited April 30, 2020 by SilverEagle

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

18 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

So which is untrue? Because here is how Tulsa has done recently in the NFL draft.

 

YEAR	ROUND	PICK	PLAYER
2020	4	17	Reggie Robinson
2020	5	9	Trevis Gipson
2011	6	9	Charles Clay
2008	7	21	Chris Chamberlain

Probably recruiting and beating big teams😂 

[El Paso Eagle]

1 hour ago, SilverEagle said:

AND here we are in attendance vs Tulsa. The numbers were compiled at the end of the 2019 season and represent the average of the last five years. The last number is the previous years standing.

 

https://collegefootballnews.com/2019/07/college-football-attendance-rankings-no-1-130-2019-cfn-five-year-program-analysis

Look at SMU's numbers and you can tell this list is BS

[Salsa_Verde]

8 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

It would take less time to drive from Duke to NC State to UNC than it would to drive from NT to SMU.     The proximity can work.

The only problem is, if in the event Tulsa had to go, would the AAC want North Texas over a program with more sustained success over a longer period of time like LATech?   Or a team that recently made noise in the NCAA Tournament in WKU/MTSU?   

We're our own worst enemy when it comes to desirability from these other conferences, and this past football season's 4-8 record looks very bad (thankfully MBB took up the slack).   We need that 4-8 season to immediately turn around to at least an 8-4 season (preferably with a bowl WIN) to show we're still sustaining our recent success and that last year was simply an anomaly.

I feel like we are constantly trying to sell our “potential”....I agree with you, if we could only get out of our own way. 

[GrayEagle]

18 hours ago, 97and03 said:

I have long been a MWC advocate but given the turmoil and financial losses currently, the only thing that makes sense is regional realignment. Just can’t justify playing volleyball and soccer in Hawaii given millions in budget shortfalls. 

Hawaii is a football only member.

[NM Green]

Exactly.  Personally I see getting to Vegas and San Diego and Albuquerque And Denver just as easy as getting to Hattiesburg, Jonesboro and mobile. 
GMG

[97and03]

3 hours ago, GrayEagle said:

Hawaii is a football only member.

Ah good point! 
Then substitute Wyoming. 😉

[Salsa_Verde]

The whole state of Wyoming supports UW, they’re a strong brand and the campus and area are amazing. Interested to see how North Texas is going to handle the elevation when they play there. My hope is that the MWC drops San Jose State but seeing as they’re the only G5 school in the Bay Area, it probably isn’t going to happen. 

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

9 hours ago, Salsa_Verde said:

The whole state of Wyoming supports UW, they’re a strong brand and the campus and area are amazing. Interested to see how North Texas is going to handle the elevation when they play there. My hope is that the MWC drops San Jose State but seeing as they’re the only G5 school in the Bay Area, it probably isn’t going to happen. 

The NM Bowl showed that we couldn’t 

[KRAM1]

Other...none of those choices going to happen anytime soon.