Good take on Mason

[Coach Andy Mac]

 

[MeanGreen_MBA]

[MeanGreen22]

Here’s the other thing.. I truly believe if Mason was legitimately the 5’11” they generously list him as, he gets drafted. 

[agw0038]

Also, our program has not had enough sustained success for scouts to trust our players. Of course, first round draft picks are first round draft picks, but sustained success is a big deal at the G5 level. 

 

 

[GrayEagle]

According to a quote by Mason, "I am 5'10 and 3/4" tall."  Now who wants to quibble over 1/4" with that much at stake?

By the way, James Morgan, the FIU quarterback who was drafted in the 5th? round, was tenth in CUSA quarterback ratings.  But...he is 6-4.

 

[UNT 90 Grad]

1 hour ago, agw0038 said:

Also, our program has not had enough sustained success for scouts to trust our players. Of course, first round draft picks are first round draft picks, but sustained success is a big deal at the G5 level. 

 

 

Didn’t 3 players from Charlotte get drafted?

[southsideguy]

Mason may have to go the warren moon route and start up in Canada and show what he can do.

[MeanGreen22]

3 hours ago, southsideguy said:

Mason may have to go the warren moon route and start up in Canada and show what he can do.

I wish the XFL didn’t already fold bc he’d burn that league down too

[Wag Tag]

4 hours ago, southsideguy said:

Mason may have to go the warren moon route and start up in Canada and show what he can do.

He would be a star in that league!

[UNTLifer]

6 hours ago, agw0038 said:

Also, our program has not had enough sustained success for scouts to trust our players. Of course, first round draft picks are first round draft picks, but sustained success is a big deal at the G5 level. 

 

 

I will respectfully disagree.  The pros are all about measurables.  As noted above, Charlotte had three players selected and the QB from FIU was selected and they haven't had any success to speak of.

[agw0038]

Fair point, what i wrote earlier was an over simplification. I feel like our best guys have been bubble prospects, where it could go either way. In those situations i do think  program's sustained success does play a role. I think the guys from our conference that were drafted over the weekend were always going to get drafted. I think the speculation with those guys was when, not if, like with Mason or Hambone.

Edited April 27, 2020 by agw0038

[UNTLifer]

Makes sense. Honestly, my take is that after the fifth round they might be better off not getting drafted. They now have options and are able to pick a situation that fits them best. Best of luck to Hamilton, Fine and Woodworth. Wonder if Lawrence signs anywhere?  

[97and03]

Simply put, we have guys like Mason that outperform their ratings and their measurables.  That isn’t what the NFL is really looking for when there are 100s of successful players that do have the measurable qualities they seek. That doesn’t mean the NFL is correct, but it is the truth. 

[Coach Andy Mac]

I believe this is from Mason's agent ☝️☝️ - may help to explain things.

Edited April 27, 2020 by Coach Andy Mac

[El Paso Eagle]

10 hours ago, 97and03 said:

Simply put, we have guys like Mason that outperform their ratings and their measurables.  That isn’t what the NFL is really looking for when there are 100s of successful players that do have the measurable qualities they seek. That doesn’t mean the NFL is correct, but it is the truth. 

I am in 100% agreement. I have said before that I think, especially when it comes to QB's that too many NFL team are more concerned in getting someone that "looks" like what the perception of an NFL QB should be than getting players who actually perform. As you hear announcers say some time they "look good" holding the clipboards.

Look at team when they are forced to go to backup QB's, especially 3rd string. They cannot produce. If you look around there are a lot of backup QB's who have been around the league for years and never played, or when they do get in never produce. 

[untjim1995]

What nobody mentions about Fine is just how much he was pounded on in his time here. It wasn't like he ever played behind much of a line and he took more hits than anyone at QB here since Gio Vizza in his one season that he played on the concrete field of Fouts.

Fine is tough as nails. Dude will be ok, whether its as a pro somewhere at some level, or as a coach. He's someone that just doesn't fit the NFL's mold.

[eulessismore]

1 minute ago, untjim1995 said:

What nobody mentions about Fine is just how much he was pounded on in his time here. It wasn't like he ever played behind much of a line and he took more hits than anyone at QB here since Gio Vizza in his one season that he played on the concrete field of Fouts.

Fine is tough as nails. Dude will be ok, whether its as a pro somewhere at some level, or as a coach. He's someone that just doesn't fit the NFL's mold.

I have to agree. Also, I think he's mentioned interest in being a leader in the Cherokee Nation (which has the most citizens of any tribal government in the U.S.).  Heck, he could probably be a senator or governor of the State of Oklahoma, and do a great job. Whatever path he chooses, I think he will be at the top level among his peers. The guy is 10 feet tall to me.

[UNT 90 Grad]

Next time Mason goes somewhere for a height measurement, he needs to wear the T-Rex costume.  Lesson learned. 

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

24 minutes ago, eulessismore said:

I have to agree. Also, I think he's mentioned interest in being a leader in the Cherokee Nation (which has the most citizens of any tribal government in the U.S.).  Heck, he could probably be a senator or governor of the State of Oklahoma, and do a great job. Whatever path he chooses, I think he will be at the top level among his peers. The guy is 10 feet tall to me.

#Fineforpresident