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Roll your eyes all you want, but I take that to mean someone that shoots a lot.  If that is the case, I didn't consider Draper or Smart volume shooters and I might add Reese to that as well.  I was just curious what he meant by that term.

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42 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

Deng and Simmons seem to have had the same offense! Slam dunk  the ball. This guy has a mid range jumper, that neither had ( based off video) if it hold true teams playing a high zone D against us will be shot down. Double teaming Ham off the pick will also be challenging. Love the athleticism of the team! Outstanding!

Geu and Simmons on the court was the only time we had two non-shooters on the court together. But the plan going into the season was for Geu to be a stretch four. But he was not able to hit them even at the rate he did at NDSU. We kept that starting lineup but Bell surpassed Geu in playing time in large part because he could hit from the outside and Geu couldn’t. And Bell was at the 4 in our closing lineups.

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26 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Roll your eyes all you want, but I take that to mean someone that shoots a lot.  If that is the case, I didn't consider Draper or Smart volume shooters and I might add Reese to that as well.  I was just curious what he meant by that term.

Volume shooters typically shoot a lot and have sometimes tend to have lower field goal percentage, but due to their sheer volume can still put up a decent point total. Many times they are also a more dominate ball handle. I guess I’m the NBA James harden comes to find. J.R. Smith was always consider one of the major volume shooters when he played with Lebron. 

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8 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

Geu and Simmons on the court was the only time we had two non-shooters on the court together. But the plan going into the season was for Geu to be a stretch four. But he was not able to hit them even at the rate he did at NDSU. We kept that starting lineup but Bell surpassed Geu in playing time in large part because he could hit from the outside and Geu couldn’t. And Bell was at the 4 in our closing lineups.

For the first time Mc is going to have the option of going big! GMG 

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44 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

Define volume shooter?

In practicality, someone who is going to pull an open three early in the shot clock. I.e. it’s a desired shot for that player to shoot an open three rather than continuing to run the offense looking for a better shot. Thomas Bell and Hamlet were guys who could hit threes but they usually came later in the shot clock, whereas volume shooters like Gibson, Reese, and Draper are pulling an open three even if there are 20+ seconds on the shot clock. 

But for a more clear definition I would say someone who takes at least 5 threes per 40 minutes. Gibson was at 9.3 3PA/40 minutes, Reese was at 6.8, Draper was at 6.3, and Rose was at 5.8. These guys were volume shooters in that there was little to no hesitation for them. They were going to get their shots and the offense was designed in large part for them to get their shots.

After Rose, the next highest guys on the team were Bell at 3.0, Mohamed at 2.8, and Hamlet at 2.6. So it was a pretty clear drop off between the volume guys and these guys who could shoot threes but were much more discretionary in when they took them.

Also, for the record, I didn’t give you the eye-roll emoji reaction. I honestly can’t stand grown men giving that reaction.

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2 minutes ago, Wag Tag said:

For the first time Mc is going to have the option of going big! GMG 

Maybe so. I just think Mccasland prioritizes skill and spacing on the court over size and I don’t think this pickup is contradictory to that.

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1 hour ago, Coach Andy Mac said:

Where do you see Mykell fitting?  Also where will this put Jamiah?

Last year as we got into our set rotation in conference play, Jahmiah only saw minutes due to foul trouble. I think that’s where he is at best next season. Especially once Robinson and Ousmane get some experience.

I think we our starting lineup is Hamlet, McBride, Reese, Bell, and Zach Simmons with Rubin Jones being our first guard off the bench and Lewis being our first big off the bench. Jones can come in for any of our three guards because he is one of our best three-point shooters and one of our best offensive creators, plus he’s 6’3”/6’4”. Lewis, similar to Deng Geu, will probably play the 4 and the 5, although Ousmane could eat some of those minutes at the 5. I think Zach, Bell, and Lewis will probably play about 70 minutes combined at the 4/5 each game, leaving about 10 minutes for Ousmane and Robinson there.

I think Robinson is our 8th guy. He will probably play a lot of 4 in his career here but this season I think he’ll play a lot at the 3. I think Robinson will see a lot of his playing time coming when Reese or Bell is off the court. I don’t think Mccasland wants Reese at the 2 and Robinson at the 3 together because that gives you just one offensive creator/ballhandler and Mccasland likes to have 2 on the court at any given time, and if Bell is out Robinson is your only other option for a shooting 4 to help spread out the spacing.

Then after those 9 I mentioned I think Jackson and Wise compete for any remaining guard minutes, and Jahmiah and Alcindor probably only play in blowouts. That’s the way I would expect it to play out at this moment but there’s so much time for change and hopefully the last 4 guys I mentioned come back much improved this season.

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32 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

Maybe so. I just think Mccasland prioritizes skill and spacing on the court over size and I don’t think this pickup is contradictory to that.

This is easily the most talent Bigs that Mc has had. Best spacing,  is to have players that can score at all positions!  He is going to be able to run great combinations out onto the floor!  GMG 

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34 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

Last year as we got into our set rotation in conference play, Jahmiah only saw minutes due to foul trouble. I think that’s where he is at best next season. Especially once Robinson and Ousmane get some experience.

I think we our starting lineup is Hamlet, McBride, Reese, Bell, and Zach Simmons with Rubin Jones being our first guard off the bench and Lewis being our first big off the bench. Jones can come in for any of our three guards because he is one of our best three-point shooters and one of our best offensive creators, plus he’s 6’3”/6’4”. Lewis, similar to Deng Geu, will probably play the 4 and the 5, although Ousmane could eat some of those minutes at the 5. I think Zach, Bell, and Lewis will probably play about 70 minutes combined at the 4/5 each game, leaving about 10 minutes for Ousmane and Robinson there.

I think Robinson is our 8th guy. He will probably play a lot of 4 in his career here but this season I think he’ll play a lot at the 3. I think Robinson will see a lot of his playing time coming when Reese or Bell is off the court. I don’t think Mccasland wants Reese at the 2 and Robinson at the 3 together because that gives you just one offensive creator/ballhandler and Mccasland likes to have 2 on the court at any given time, and if Bell is out Robinson is your only other option for a shooting 4 to help spread out the spacing.

Then after those 9 I mentioned I think Jackson and Wise compete for any remaining guard minutes, and Jahmiah and Alcindor probably only play in blowouts. That’s the way I would expect it to play out at this moment but there’s so much time for change and hopefully the last 4 guys I mentioned come back much improved this season.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jackson plays A little more than what you’re thinking.  He was a true Freshman this past season, so he should improve.  Plus, Lewis may take a little time to adjust to D1 ball.  
 

Nice problem to have though!  Lots of depth on this team, especially if Wise can get healthy & produce.

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34 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if Jackson plays A little more than what you’re thinking.  He was a true Freshman this past season, so he should improve.  Plus, Lewis may take a little time to adjust to D1 ball.  
 

Nice problem to have though!  Lots of depth on this team, especially if Wise can get healthy & produce.

The problem I see with Jackson is that his shot has such a far way to come. Larry Wise did not hit enough shots early when he was getting minutes to earn a rotation spot, but his shot isn’t broken. But with Jackson teams gave him zero respect beyond the arc. 0-3 from three in 134 minutes on the season.

When you’re that much of a non-threat as a shooter under 6’ tall, that’s why he was only able to come in for small spurts at a time. He was just too much of a non-factor offensively. I just have a hard time penciling him in for more minutes knowing how far away his shot was. Something that I’m going to have to see first.

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9 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

The problem I see with Jackson is that his shot has such a far way to come. Larry Wise did not hit enough shots early when he was getting minutes to earn a rotation spot, but his shot isn’t broken. But with Jackson teams gave him zero respect beyond the arc. 0-3 from three in 134 minutes on the season.

When you’re that much of a non-threat as a shooter under 6’ tall, that’s why he was only able to come in for small spurts at a time. He was just too much of a non-factor offensively. I just have a hard time penciling him in for more minutes knowing how far away his shot was. Something that I’m going to have to see first.

I think Mac really used his as a defensive on ball specialist. I remember watching a few games where he and Smart or Reese would exchange almost  every possession. I agree he lacks the shooting, but of all the things to need to improve on I would easily take that over ball control, IQ, defense, etc... I think Jackson gets more minutes this year than he did last year. 
 

I also just realized we are all talking about next season, but do we believe we will actually tip off in the fall?

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21 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I think Mac really used his as a defensive on ball specialist. I remember watching a few games where he and Smart or Reese would exchange almost  every possession. I agree he lacks the shooting, but of all the things to need to improve on I would easily take that over ball control, IQ, defense, etc... I think Jackson gets more minutes this year than he did last year. 

Right, an on-ball specialist who was used in those specific instances rather than consistent minutes carved out of the rotation. Which if that’s how Mccasland used his on-ball specialist last year, I think that’s how he’ll be used again until some material improvements are made to his shot.

21 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I also just realized we are all talking about next season, but do we believe we will actually tip off in the fall?

I don’t know but if we still can’t have sports come November than we have bigger issues to worry about.

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3 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

In practicality, someone who is going to pull an open three early in the shot clock. I.e. it’s a desired shot for that player to shoot an open three rather than continuing to run the offense looking for a better shot. Thomas Bell and Hamlet were guys who could hit threes but they usually came later in the shot clock, whereas volume shooters like Gibson, Reese, and Draper are pulling an open three even if there are 20+ seconds on the shot clock. 

But for a more clear definition I would say someone who takes at least 5 threes per 40 minutes. Gibson was at 9.3 3PA/40 minutes, Reese was at 6.8, Draper was at 6.3, and Rose was at 5.8. These guys were volume shooters in that there was little to no hesitation for them. They were going to get their shots and the offense was designed in large part for them to get their shots.

After Rose, the next highest guys on the team were Bell at 3.0, Mohamed at 2.8, and Hamlet at 2.6. So it was a pretty clear drop off between the volume guys and these guys who could shoot threes but were much more discretionary in when they took them.

Also, for the record, I didn’t give you the eye-roll emoji reaction. I honestly can’t stand grown men giving that reaction.

Thank you.  It was an honest question as I wasn't quite sure what you were referring to when using that term.

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I don't believe anyone can completely peg McCasland's style.  I think he is a coach that will use his players to his best advantage, not just stick with what he did last year or the year before. 

The three has definitely changed basketball.  However, there are a lot of teams that play successfully with two bigs that don't shoot threes.  My predicted lineup next year is Hamlin at pg, Simmons at the 5 and Lewis at the 4.  I think the other two spots are up for grabs;  Bell in the game should make NT a top rebounding team.  He has an advantage as he can shoot the three.  However, Reese and McBride are likely to start with Bell still getting big minutes off the bench. 

Scary, Jones looks like a better athlete than any of them.  Robinson as a freshman might also surprise. Jackson will continue primarily as a defensive specialist.  Ousmanes will get about 10 minutes a game.  Wise is a mystery. 

 

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18 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

I don't believe anyone can completely peg McCasland's style.  I think he is a coach that will use his players to his best advantage, not just stick with what he did last year or the year before. 

The three has definitely changed basketball.  However, there are a lot of teams that play successfully with two bigs that don't shoot threes.  My predicted lineup next year is Hamlin at pg, Simmons at the 5 and Lewis at the 4.  I think the other two spots are up for grabs;  Bell in the game should make NT a top rebounding team.  He has an advantage as he can shoot the three.  However, Reese and McBride are likely to start with Bell still getting big minutes off the bench. 

Scary, Jones looks like a better athlete than any of them.  Robinson as a freshman might also surprise. Jackson will continue primarily as a defensive specialist.  Ousmanes will get about 10 minutes a game.  Wise is a mystery. 

 

I see 

1. Hamlet

2. McBride

3. Reese

4. Bell in the same situation as Geu last year

5. Simmons

 

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