How bad was our offensive line? 108 out of 130 bad

jtm0097 · January 7, 2020

How bad was our offensive line this past year you might ask? 108th in the country. Jacob Brammer had the highest grade with 69.4. Our center had a 19.2 grade. That's horrible and one of the main reasons Mason was running for his life.

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NorthTexasWeLove · January 7, 2020

Meh.

Wouldn't look too much into grading linemen.

1623 yards on 396 attempts = 4.1 ypc.

26 sacks given up for a -178 yards. 2.1 per game.

The offensive line by no means stellar, but I take 0 stock on some Joe blow 'grading' them out individually as a unit failure/success.

I get that Mason Fine will live in lore around here, but some fault has to be laid at his feet (like a lot of his centers snaps; which was a bigger issue than maybe anything else in regards to the OL).

jtm0097 · January 7, 2020

PFF provides data to 70 CFB teams and draft analysis to NFL teams. However, anyone with a brain could tell you that our OL and DL were bad this year.

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edcollopy · January 7, 2020

Our center having such a low score had to not only do with the constant pressure in Mason’s face, but also the timing that was continually thrown off by this horrifically low snaps. If Mason was 6’4”, he would’ve have 30 snaps side behind him.

meaniegreenie · January 7, 2020

8 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Meh.

Wouldn't look too much into grading linemen.

1623 yards on 396 attempts = 4.1 ypc.

26 sacks given up for a -178 yards. 2.1 per game.

The offensive line by no means stellar, but I take 0 stock on some Joe blow 'grading' them out individually as a unit failure/success.

I get that Mason Fine will live in lore around here, but some fault has to be laid at his feet (like a lot of his centers snaps; which was a bigger issue than maybe anything else in regards to the OL).

Whether some Joe Blow graded them or not, it was obvious to anyone paying attention that our line was horrible. They were often beat by 3 rushers and could not be counted on to get a critical 1 yard conversion.

Mean Green 93-98 · January 7, 2020

It was obvious that our pass blocking was bad, as were our snaps from center, but they don't say anything about our run blocking, which was decent. Where is a list of the grades they are talking about?

MeanGreenTexan · January 7, 2020

14 hours ago, jtm0097 said:

How bad was our offensive line this past year you might ask? 108th in the country. Jacob Brammer had the highest grade with 69.4. Our center had a 19.2 grade. That's horrible and one of the main reasons Mason was running for his life.

Brammer being graded out as the highest-rated OL is problematic of either 1 of 2 things:
1. Our OL was way worse overall than I thought.
2. The person doing the grading was having a stroke while dwelling on UNT's OL.

meanrob · January 7, 2020

56 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

2. The person doing the grading was having a stroke while dwelling on UNT's OL.

Could be right, I had a several strokes while watching them.

Cr1028 · January 7, 2020

NorthTexasWeLove · January 7, 2020

9 hours ago, meaniegreenie said:

Whether some Joe Blow graded them or not, it was obvious to anyone paying attention that our line was horrible. They were often beat by 3 rushers and could not be counted on to get a critical 1 yard conversion.

The stats are the stats. I put my trust in those as far as grading them out.

By the mythical eye test, yeah, they were awful at times. But the stats are still what they are.