Our DC

[Rudy]

In regards to the secondary not turning back to look at the ball, that is taught at the earliest levels of football. It's football 101. Watch your receiver, when he reacts, you turn to look back. This is DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL. That concept, along with form tackling should be installed in them by now. 

 

God forbid they be taught to watch the receivers eyes and turn when the receivers eyes start to get big when the ball is arriving. Our secondarys heads might explode. 

[Mean Green Matt]

2 hours ago, southsideguy said:

9559 announced 13500.  All the good that was built in the last three years is bring erased in one season.

If that’s the case, that’s on us as a fan base. Almost all teams have bad years. 

[Venson]

6 hours ago, ADLER said:

Bring in Frank Wilson as DC after this season. 

He can't coach offense but he knows defense well, and he is a proven recruiter.

And like the 1990's Oilers with Kevin Gilbride and Buddy Ryan, Frank would be permitted to punch Bodie Reeder when necessary.

He may not take a job at a G5 unless it's as a HC, but one thing for certain about Wilson over SL, he had the balls to fire his OC last year when things were not working. He didn't hire a better one or at least it seems he didn't, but he had the balls to make a change. I'm not sure if SL has the balls to fire anyone that he has hired. I believe Nate Brown leaving was a Reffett call. I hope he grows a pair and we have a new DC by Monday. If he doesn't, then he may not be the HC we need.

[Sig381]

I would not blame the defensive issues on the coach solely. The players have some say. But if you do have the players that fit your system then your not recruiting the right players  and  the  coach’s are not recognizing the talent. They are not adjusting. The coach needs to be replaced   

[TheColonyEagle]

We're going to see if Littrell is ready to step up and be the CEO of a team. I don't believe he's had to fire a coach for lack of performance...especially one the profile of a DC.

He doesn't have a choice though. Next season can be a decent season if he gets the right coach in here. We have some talent coming up...

But I'm not focused on Reffett...he is what he is. He has to go.

Will Littrell do the right thing? That's all that matters now.

 

[TheReal_jayD]

3 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

We're going to see if Littrell is ready to step up and be the CEO of a team. I don't believe he's had to fire a coach for lack of performance...especially one the profile of a DC.

He doesn't have a choice though. Next season can be a decent season if he gets the right coach in here. We have some talent coming up...

But I'm not focused on Reffett...he is what he is. He has to go.

Will Littrell do the right thing? That's all that matters now.

 

Reffett will not be here next year

Edited October 27, 2019 by TheReal_jayD

[tmjerm]

11 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Reffett will not be here next year

That needs to happen NOW though JD.  

[Sig381]

Just look at the red light and all will be better 

 

 

[TheReal_jayD]

7 minutes ago, tmjerm said:

That needs to happen NOW though JD.  

if my call he would have been gone after UTEP put 50 on us in year one. We have wasted 4 years of Mason FIne, the greatest quarterback in UNT history.It all the same stuff. zero pressure. CB dont look back for the ball.. all the same for 4 years in a row. 4 years and zero bowl wins is unacceptable with the talent we have had.

[jtm0097]

Reffett seems like a good guy. Old school, tough, hard nosed coach. However, our defense is supposed to be an attacking one that gets pressure on the qb. It simply does not do that and our weak secondary gets exposed. I hope we change defensive philosophies next year and get a new DC in here. It's a results based business. Unfortunately, the defense is not producing the proper results.

Edited October 27, 2019 by jtm0097

[NorthTexasWeLove]

12 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:

if my call he would have been gone after UTEP put 50 on us in year one. We have wasted 4 years of Mason FIne, the greatest quarterback in UNT history.It all the same stuff. zero pressure. CB dont look back for the ball.. all the same for 4 years in a row. 4 years and zero bowl wins is unacceptable with the talent we have had.

Yup. This game has always resonated with me. 

They were 3-8 and we were 5-6 on the cusp of eligibility. And we let a 3-win UTEP team drop 50 on us. Sort of told me everything I needed to know about this staff. And, if we're being honest, not a whole lot has changed since except for having some of the easiest schedules in college football history. 

[meaniegreenie]

10 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

 

If you had to guess,.... what percentage of defensive plays would you think we blitz on?  I’d guess 1 in 15 or about 6%?

One of our more astute alumn/donors brought this point up tonight.  It feels like we rarely blitz and hardly ever get pressure on the QB.  

So,......if your going to risk it and run a wide open offense..(Tee It High..blah blah).....then why in hell would you not risk it and run a wide open defense and blitz the crap out of someone?  At this point what’s the harm, you might give up a 75 yard TD in 6 plays?

 

Rick

Or we could rush 3 and give up a 75yd TD.

[SilverEagle]

Ya know, I came to this thread because I saw something that I rarely see.....Gmoney starting a thread. Mr. M. rarely posts. And when he does, it's usually along the lines of "let's think this thing through" .........aka the voice of reason. Mr. M. is a former player (mostly defensive back) who played for Corkey Nelson and Dennis Parker. So, for whatever my opinion is worth on this board,  when I saw that he started a thread, and then shockingly saw that he advocated for the immediate removal of the DC......then that DC needs to go!

 In case you missed it, here is our record under SL and his DC up to this point. 

 

 

 

 

 

North Texas Mean Green Schedule 2019

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Regular Season
DATE	OPPONENT	RESULT	W-L (CONF)	HI PASS	HI RUSH	HI REC
Sat, Aug 31	vsAbilene Christian	W51-31	1-0 (0-0)	Fine 383	Torrey 95	Bussey Jr. 156
Sat, Sep 7	@SMU	L49-27	1-1 (0-0)	Fine 152	Siggers 164	Darden 59
Sat, Sep 14	@California	L23-17	1-2 (0-0)	Fine 208	Siggers 90	Darden 75
Sat, Sep 21	vsUTSA	W45-3	2-2 (1-0)	Fine 195	Siggers 143	Torrey 60
Sat, Sep 28	vsHouston	L46-25	2-3 (1-0)	Fine 353	Siggers 83	Lawrence 120
Sat, Oct 12	@Southern Mississippi	L45-27	2-4 (1-1)	Fine 217	Torrey 61	Darden 87
Sat, Oct 19	vsMiddle Tennessee	W33-30	3-4 (2-1)	Fine 375	Easly 99	Darden 125
Sat, Oct 26	@Charlotte	L39-38	3-5 (2-2)	Fine 394	Siggers 131	Shorter 111
DATE	OPPONENT	TIME	TV	TICKETS
Sat, Nov 2	vsUTEP	2:30 PM	NFL	Tickets as low as $19
Sat, Nov 9	@Louisiana Tech	3:00 PM		Tickets as low as $18
Sat, Nov 23	@Rice	2:30 PM	NFL	Tickets as low as $8
Sat, Nov 30	vsUAB	3:00 PM		Tickets as low as $18

2018-North Texas (CUSA)
9/1	vs.	Southern Methodist (5-7)	W	46	23
9/8	vs.	Incarnate Word (non-IA)	W	58	16
9/15	@	Arkansas (2-10)	W	44	17
9/22	@	Liberty (6-6)	W	47	7
9/29	vs.	*Louisiana Tech (8-5)	L	27	29
10/6	@	*Texas-El Paso (1-11)	W	27	24
10/13	vs.	*Southern Mississippi (6-5)	W	30	7
10/20	@	*Alabama-Birmingham (11-3)	L	21	29
10/27	vs.	*Rice (2-11)	W	41	17
11/10	@	*Old Dominion (4-8)	L	31	34
11/15	vs.	*Florida Atlantic (5-7)	W	41	38
11/24	@	*Texas-San Antonio (3-9)	W	24	21
12/15	vs.	Utah State (11-2)	L	13	52	@ Albuquerque, NM	New Mexico Bowl
		9-4-0		450	314

 

2017-North Texas (CUSA)
9/2	vs.	Lamar (non-IA)	W	59	14
9/9	@	Southern Methodist (7-6)	L	32	54
9/16	@	Iowa (8-5)	L	14	31
9/23	vs.	*Alabama-Birmingham (8-5)	W	46	43
9/30	@	*Southern Mississippi (8-5)	W	43	28
10/14	vs.	*Texas-San Antonio (6-5)	W	29	26
10/21	@	*Florida Atlantic (11-3)	L	31	69
10/28	vs.	*Old Dominion (5-7)	W	45	38
11/4	@	*Louisiana Tech (7-6)	W	24	23
11/11	vs.	*Texas-El Paso (0-12)	W	45	10
11/18	vs.	Army (10-3)	W	52	49
11/25	@	*Rice (1-11)	W	30	14
12/2	vs.	*Florida Atlantic (11-3)	L	17	41	@ Boca Raton, FL	CUSA Championship
12/16	vs.	Troy (11-2)	L	30	50	@ New Orleans, LA	New Orleans Bowl
		9-5-0		497	490

 

2016-North Texas (CUSA)
9/3	vs.	Southern Methodist (5-7)	L	21	34
9/10	vs.	Bethune-Cookman (non-IA)	W	41	20
9/17	@	Florida (9-4)	L	0	32
9/24	@	*Rice (3-9)	W	42	35
10/1	vs.	*Middle Tennessee State (8-5)	L	13	30
10/8	vs.	*Marshall (3-9)	W	38	21
10/22	@	Army (8-5)	W	35	18
10/29	@	*Texas-San Antonio (6-7)	L	17	31
11/5	vs.	*Louisiana Tech (9-5)	L	24	45
11/12	@	*Western Kentucky (11-3)	L	7	45
11/19	vs.	*Southern Mississippi (7-6)	W	29	23
11/26	@	*Texas-El Paso (4-8)	L	24	52
12/27	vs.	Army (8-5)	L	31	38	@ Dallas, TX	Heart of Dallas Bowl
		5-8-0		322	424

 

[MeanGreenWarDaddy]

1 hour ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Reffett will not be here next year

👂🏾Inside information? 

 

 

[NorthTexasSportsNetwork]

1 hour ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Yup. This game has always resonated with me. 

They were 3-8 and we were 5-6 on the cusp of eligibility. And we let a 3-win UTEP team drop 50 on us. Sort of told me everything I needed to know about this staff. And, if we're being honest, not a whole lot has changed since except for having some of the easiest schedules in college football history. 

Don’t forget that Aaron Jones has like 300 rushing yards

[Mike Jackson]

When I asked do we have a DC I meant it seriously.  Reffet should have been fired at the completion of last season.  If the reported rumor is true about why Seth's negotiation with KSU fell through you can't blame KSU.  The two most important ways to judge coaches in college are 1. What they do with the talent available to them and 2. What the quality of talent they can recruit.  Reffet's defense has yet to keep a fully functional FBS defense well under its scoring average to the season.  While Reffet is bad Seth's faith in him is more concerning for this program long term.   The circumstances might have dictated that Seth get a raise but they definitely did not warrant a 2023 guaranteed season.   Ideally I would want to see the 2020 team without  Mason to really evaluate whether this is the guy or not.  

All that said it is clear that we don't have a DC.  We have a guy who has that title exclusively because he has a good relationship with the HC or the HC thinks is actually good for some unknown reason.

Edited October 27, 2019 by Mike Jackson

[Venson]

Serious question. If SL fires Ref this week, who do you think would call the defense? Also, do you think the defense would change or would we continue running 3-3-5? I personally think we would keep 3-3-5 because it's so late in the season, but part of me says change it because you can't do any worse defensively. What are board members thought?

[MeanGreenTexan]

Just now, Venson said:

Serious question. If SL fires Ref this week, who do you think would call the defense? Also, do you think the defense would change or would we continue running 3-3-5? I personally think we would keep 3-3-5 because it's so late in the season, but part of me says change it because you can't do any worse defensively. What are board members thought?

Jennings, and it would be awfully difficult to install a 4-man front defense in the middle of the season, so I’d bet the scheme would remain in place.

[Venson]

Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

Jennings, and it would be awfully difficult to install a 4-man front defense in the middle of the season, so I’d bet the scheme would remain in place.

Jennings I think would do a decent job. I thought maybe they would go with Scott because he seems to have more DC experience, but so did Ref and we see where he has gotten us.

[FirefightnRick]

3 hours ago, TheReal_jayD said:

if my call he would have been gone after UTEP put 50 on us in year one.

But we were putting up offensive numbers such as 41 on Bethune-Cookeman,  42 on Rice, 38 on Marshall, 35 On Army.  We just had to outscore the opponent you know,... Tee’ing It High if you will.  That’s all that mattered.

So the biggest question is this,...will changing DC’s change that philosophy?

 

Rick

Edited October 27, 2019 by FirefightnRick

[Venson]

4 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

But we were putting up offensive numbers such as 41 on Bethune-Cookeman,  42 on Rice, 38 on Marshall, 35 On Army.  We just had to outscored the opponent.  Tee’ing It High if you will.  That’s all that mattered.

So the biggest question is this,...will changing DC’s change that philosophy?

 

Rick

I think it will change the philosophy over to let's get stops and turnovers so that our offense can Tee it high and let it fly. Now the philosophy seems to be bend, bend, break and rely on the offense to save us because they Tee it high and let it fly.

[Rudy]

Here's another novel concept. Line your corners 2-5 yards off the ball, and jam the receiver as the leave the line. 

[FirefightnRick]

18 minutes ago, Venson said:

I think it will change the philosophy over to let's get stops and turnovers so that our offense can Tee it high and let it fly. Now the philosophy seems to be bend, bend, break and rely on the offense to save us because they Tee it high and let it fly.

Hope your right.

 

Rick

[UNT Texas Hooligan]

2 hours ago, NorthTexasSportsNetwork said:

Don’t forget that Aaron Jones has like 300 rushing yards

 

3 hours ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Yup. This game has always resonated with me. 

They were 3-8 and we were 5-6 on the cusp of eligibility. And we let a 3-win UTEP team drop 50 on us. Sort of told me everything I needed to know about this staff. And, if we're being honest, not a whole lot has changed since except for having some of the easiest schedules in college football history. 

I was at that game and it was truly an embarrassment. UTEP family and other fans; of all people, clowning me about making Aaron Jones look like a Heisman candidate and knocking us out of bowl contention. This defense has never stepped up when it has mattered and I am fed up

[Mean Green Matt]

3 minutes ago, UNT Texas Hooligan said:

 

 UTEP family and other fans; of all people, clowning me about making Aaron Jones look like a Heisman candidate and knocking us out of bowl contention. T

Did you tell them the joke was on them because our APR score was going to get us in a bowl game anyway???