Official UNT vs. Southern Miss Gameday Thread

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · October 13, 2019

Just now, Green Lantern said:

Yet we had people on here claiming that our OL “isn’t that bad”. But here we are with Fine hurt after another game of getting killed on the regular.

The only "people" I've heard say that is SL every game. I think he has a double pair of green shades on

YIPYKIA · October 13, 2019

35 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

I hope he said we have to get better at all three phases

Ha, you know this is coming for sure

GrandGreen · October 13, 2019

7 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Cute, but hardly appropriate.

I assume you think Fine is 100% and USM is not the more talented team.

That is reality, not excuses.

MeanMag · October 13, 2019

31 minutes ago, ADLER said:

8 minutes left in the game, down by 18, and we're running up the middle.

Really, is that trying desperately to make a comeback or conceding defeat and running out the clock.

I suppose we could have under thrown more deep balls.

NorthTexasWeLove · October 13, 2019

Just now, GrandGreen said:

Cute, but hardly appropriate.

I assume you think Fine is 100% and USM is not the more talented team.

That is reality, not excuses.

The excuse (because that's what it is) that you are using is, 'USM just had more talent' is still an accountable action, true or not. UNT has beaten this team 3 years in a row. Both teams were recruiting in their recruiting cycles all the while UNT was have more successful seasons than USM. So, how/why are they a more talented team? Should we just shrug at the shoulders and 'welp' all the way home? nah.

GrandGreen · October 13, 2019

2 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

The excuse (because that's what it is) that you are using is, 'USM just had more talent' is still an accountable action, true or not. UNT has beaten this team 3 years in a row. Both teams were recruiting in their recruiting cycles all the while UNT was have more successful seasons than USM. So, how/why are they a more talented team? Should we just shrug at the shoulders and 'welp' all the way home? nah.

Did you watch the game?

NorthTexasWeLove · October 13, 2019

Just now, GrandGreen said:

Did you watch the game?

yes.

But, I edit to ask wth does that matter? What does the porous excuse of recruiting (AKA an excuse) have anything to do with me watching the game?

Edited October 13, 2019 by NorthTexasWeLove

Wag Tag · October 13, 2019

14 minutes ago, Green Lantern said:

Yet we had people on here claiming that our OL “isn’t that bad”. But here we are with Fine hurt after another game of getting killed on the regular.

Remember it wasn’t just fans being positive about the O line, we have 2-3 preseason all Conf picks on that line.

Wag Tag · October 13, 2019

Can we hire a clock Mgmt coach that will make sure we us All Our Timeouts! This has been an issue from day one!!!!

TheColonyEagle · October 13, 2019

11 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Cute, but hardly appropriate.

I assume you think Fine is 100% and USM is not the more talented team.

That is reality, not excuses.

But this wasn’t an SEC team.

they’re a fellow CUSA team

they’re more talented because they’ve been out recruiting Littrell.

for what Littrell makes.....that shouldn’t happen

MeanGreen2019 · October 13, 2019

Seth should have fired Chuck Langston and Troy Reffert after the 2017 season. O-Line has been underperforming drastically this season, and has been downright bad since he got here.

Dont get me started on Reffert. This scheme has.not.worked. We do not have the ability to rush 3 guys, and play man to man on the backend. We rarely ever get a consistent rush and never produce turnovers.

This season has been a total letdown. I’m pissed

Green Lantern · October 13, 2019

Just now, Wag Tag said:

Remember it wasn’t just fans being positive about the O line, we have 2-3 preseason all Conf picks on that line.

Sure. I get your point, but I’d counter with: Are those fans actually watching the games? Fine continues to run for his life, pull plays out of his ass, bailing everyone out in process, followed by taking a huge shot. Rinse, recycle, repeat. The difference this year, is you can see the frustration on his face after a few of those massive hits as he literally scrapes himself up off the turf. The cumulative effect has clearly taken a toll.

Preseason polls and player awards are honestly fairly useless. I mean look at where we were picked in CUSA by the coaches and media.

GrandGreen · October 13, 2019

2 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

yes.

But, I edit to ask wth does that matter? What does the porous excuse of recruiting (AKA an excuse) have anything to do with me watching the game?

Because if you watched the game, you might have recognized that USM had the more talented team.

Name one position group that you think NT had more talent than USM. QB, no RB, no at least after Siggers was out, OL, no, wr, no dl ,no, lb and db are debatable (never were stellar)

USM has gotten better this year, NT has gotten worse

As far as recruiting, there is no way to know other than USM just clobbered NT

untbowler · October 13, 2019

Just now, Green Lantern said:

Sure. I get your point, but I’d counter with: Are those fans actually watching the games? Fine continues to run for his life, pull plays out of his ass, bailing everyone out in process, followed by taking a huge shot. Rinse, recycle, repeat. The difference this year, is you can see the frustration on his face after a few of those massive hits as he literally scrapes himself up off the turf. The cumulative effect has clearly taken a toll.

Preseason polls and player awards are honestly fairly useless. I mean look at where we were picked in CUSA by the coaches and media.

Pretty much sums up the failures of this overpaid coaching staff.

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · October 13, 2019

Just now, Green Lantern said:

Sure. I get your point, but I’d counter with: Are those fans actually watching the games? Fine continues to run for his life, pull plays out of his ass, bailing everyone out in process, followed by taking a huge shot. Rinse, recycle, repeat. The difference this year, is you can see the frustration on his face after a few of those massive hits as he literally scrapes himself up off the turf. The cumulative effect has clearly taken a toll.

Preseason polls and player awards are honestly fairly useless. I mean look at where we were picked in CUSA by the coaches and media.

Yep right there

GrandGreen · October 13, 2019

7 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

But this wasn’t an SEC team.

they’re a fellow CUSA team

they’re more talented because they’ve been out recruiting Littrell.

for what Littrell makes.....that shouldn’t happen

Do you see me defending Littrell? I just stated he not going to be terminated, which he isn't.

Edited October 13, 2019 by GrandGreen

Wag Tag · October 13, 2019

Just now, Green Lantern said:

Sure. I get your point, but I’d counter with: Are those fans actually watching the games? Fine continues to run for his life, pull plays out of his ass, bailing everyone out in process, followed by taking a huge shot. Rinse, recycle, repeat. The difference this year, is you can see the frustration on his face after a few of those massive hits as he literally scrapes himself up off the turf. The cumulative effect has clearly taken a toll.

Preseason polls and player awards are honestly fairly useless. I mean look at where we were picked in CUSA by the coaches and media.

I really thought at the beginning of the season this would be Seth’s best O line and D line!

NorthTexasSportsNetwork · October 13, 2019

Just now, Wag Tag said:

I really thought at the beginning of the season this would be Seth’s best O line and D line!

I thought the same, but the D line has been way better than the O line by a mile

Venson · October 13, 2019

11 minutes ago, MeanGreen2019 said:

Seth should have fired Chuck Langston and Troy Reffert after the 2017 season. O-Line has been underperforming drastically this season, and has been downright bad since he got here.

Dont get me started on Reffert. This scheme has.not.worked. We do not have the ability to rush 3 guys, and play man to man on the backend. We rarely ever get a consistent rush and never produce turnovers.

This season has been a total letdown. I’m pissed

You are right about Reffett. He seemed somewhat successful last year because he had the luck of having two good corners, one good backer and and another decent backer, as well as Rod Young. They were covering up the defensive flaws. Now you have players who cannot cover that up, this defense is failing. These kids deserve better. They deserve a coach who is going to play to their strengths and not force them to do what they cannot because he likes it. Langston's lines have been underperforming for a long time. Just was lucky enough to have great receivers and a great QB to cover them.

NorthTexasWeLove · October 13, 2019

22 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Because if you watched the game, you might have recognized that USM had the more talented team.

Name one position group that you think NT had more talent than USM. QB, no RB, no at least after Siggers was out, OL, no, wr, no dl ,no, lb and db are debatable (never were stellar)

USM has gotten better this year, NT has gotten worse

As far as recruiting, there is no way to know other than USM just clobbered NT

What is your point?

Those are all excuses. Both coaches have been at both places for I believe the same amount of time. Why was there such a swing in talent year over year between them and us? For that matter, SMU as well.

Just a bunch of meh.

NorthTexasWeLove · October 13, 2019

22 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

Do you see me defending Littrell? I just stated he not going to be terminated, which he isn't.

Indirectly, yes.

Pavlovs Eagle · October 13, 2019

You want heartbreaking?... You should have seen Mason's mother and father in the stands this game. Mason's father is always pretty reserved, Mason's mom appears totally fed up.

Mason came back on the field from the locker room with maybe 5 mins to go with no pads on, motioned for him mother to lean over the railing, whispered something into her ear and then he walked off. I can't imagine that was good news, since I've never seen an interaction like that from him. Both parents and what I assume was Mason's grandfather pretty much were speechless and emotionless the rest of the game.

He should have transferred after last season. Only the Homer apologists on here wouldnt have understood.

NorthTexasWeLove · October 13, 2019

2 minutes ago, Pavlovs Eagle said:

You want heartbreaking?... You should have seen Mason's mother and father in the stands this game. Mason's father is always pretty reserved, Mason's mom appears totally fed up.

Mason came back on the field from the locker room with maybe 5 mins to go with no pads on, motioned for him mother to lean over the railing, whispered something into her ear and then he walked off. I can't imagine that was good news, since I've never seen an interaction like that from him. Both parents and what I assume was Mason's grandfather pretty much were speechless and emotionless the rest of the game.

He should have transferred after last season. Only the Homer apologists on here wouldnt have understood.

I am not a homer or an apologist. But that is a cheese dick move to transfer out in the hope of more success elsewhere. You roll with it when you are QB1, good and the bad, you roll. He's a UNT Hall of Fame lock and will will talked about by these current 18-19-20-21 year old students when they're 80. You sort of taint that if you take your ball and go home.

Edited October 13, 2019 by NorthTexasWeLove