Do UTSA fans display rivalry?

[ADLER]

There must be rivalry for someone to be considered a rival (by definition that is a prerequisite) , and frankly there is none.

On the UTSA board there have been a grand total of two new posts this week: How to watch the game on TV?, and What's your score prediction?.

We've been trying valiantly to get any kind of reaction from them, nothing. It's like watching kittens bat around a dead mouse. 

UTSA, aided by some blown calls, was able to pull an upset North Texas in 2013. That 'miracle' was long ago. Since then its been pretty much domination by North Texas, and we will have won four of the last five after Saturday's game.

So, can we please stop pretending that there is any type of rivalry, neither on or off the field.

Edited September 20, 2019 by ADLER

[peanuts104]

We have this thread every year.

[greenminer]

Lets just whoop their butts and move on.

if anything, I hate SMU more than ever. I like the idea of hating Houston, too, but I know it ain’t a rivalry.

[Withers940]

Well if it's not a rivalry then why do I hate them so damn much? Maybe it's just all their white trash fans that always talk $hit to me and my family when I go down there. They are 2 for 2

[Greendylan]

See, when we have to keep making declarations every year about whether a particular game is or is not a rivalry, that to me only confirms that it is a rivalry--for better or worse.  

Now, is UTSA NT's primary rival?  No, and I don't think that's even close.  That's not a knock on them, just an observation of fan/player/coach emotions about each game.  The SMU-North Texas game is a big deal in the DFW area, and it always seems to result in massive fan overreactions on both sides.  The UTSA-North Texas game is a minor rivalry, where it matters a lot to certain pockets of fans.  

[meangreenthirteen]

 

this is what I think of when I see a whole paragraph angrily asserting we aren't a rival

[Got5onIt]

So we treat them how SMU treats us?

[peanuts104]

[keith]

2 minutes ago, Got5onIt said:

So we treat them how SMU treats us?

Yes.  It's the way the world works.

[Udomann]

If it got you this angry, I think you got yourself a rival.

I'll own it, I hate those pavement chickens. They made us look bad once upon a time and I want to football punch them in the nards every season from now until Bretts parking pass expires.

Edited September 19, 2019 by Udomann

[MattyV]

Seth Littrell called them a rival this week on the radio during his coaches show at Rudy's.

So if Seth calls them a rival, they're a rival in my book. 

[untjim1995]

2 hours ago, Got5onIt said:

So we treat them how SMU treats us?

This.

Heres your Texas CFB hierarchy of looking down at rivals:

UT>A&M>Tech>Baylor>TCU>SMU>UNT>UTSA>Texas State

Nobody cares at all about UH, Rice, or UTEP

[GrandGreen]

Every D1 football team is a rival.  The only rival that matters this week, is UTSA.  

[ADLER]

1 hour ago, Udomann said:

If it got you this angry, I think you got yourself a rival.

I'll own it, I hate those pavement chickens. They made us look bad once upon a time and I want to football punch them in the nards every season from now until Bretts parking pass expires.

No anger, just disappointment. There is nobody to have a rivalry with? They're not there supporting their team any longer.

The SMU week, and even the Abiline Christian game week were bull of banter and barbs from rival fans from both schools. Even Cal had some light verbal jousting leading up to the game.

For UTSA there's just nothing there. We may joke about them, but there is no interaction, no taunting, and nothing that remotely resembles rivalry.

 

[TheColonyEagle]

My only problem with calling them a rival is it's a bad look for UNT if our rival has only been around for 8 years.

Rivalries should have some history.

This is as forced as the fake "silver boot" between the Rangers and Astros. I understand rivalries are important but they should happen organically...not because a beat writer insists on it.

[TheColonyEagle]

2 minutes ago, ADLER said:

No anger, just disappointment. There is nobody to have a rivalry with? They're not there supporting their team any longer.

The SMU week, and even the Abiline Christian game week were bull of banter and barbs from rival fans from both schools. Even Cal had some light verbal jousting leading up to the game.

For UTSA there's just nothing there. We may joke about them, but there is no interaction, no taunting, and nothing that remotely resembles rivalry.

 

Joking about and taunting them seems mean. Like picking on a less fortunate kid.

[Udomann]

2 minutes ago, ADLER said:

No anger, just disappointment. There is nobody to have a rivalry with? They're not there supporting their team any longer.

The SMU week, and even the Abiline Christian game week were bull of banter and barbs from rival fans from both schools. Even Cal had some light verbal jousting leading up to the game.

For UTSA there's just nothing there. We may joke about them, but there is no interaction, no taunting, and nothing that remotely resembles rivalry.

 

The best perspective I can add is, how did SMU view us 5 years ago? Not even a blip. How did UTSA see us? Opportunity. We've had a LOT of success since. UTSA still see's opportunity. SMU is still to be convinced.

We are firmly entrenched between those 2. This was our year to finally get out. We didn't. So back into our trench we go for another 2 years. Maybe one day we'll rise above them there chicken eaters, to finally feast on pony.

[ADLER]

You guys are struggling to make this into some kind of "we think we're superior to them" statement. Its not.

The point is, and I am going to type this slowly for you... NOBODY ON THE OTHER SIDE SEEMS TO CARE ABOUT THEIR TEAM ANYMORE. How can you have a rivalry with that?

It's like saying that you have a passionate love/hate affair with a cardboard box.

 

And by the down arrows, and least three of you could feel quite passionate about a cardboard box.

Edited September 20, 2019 by ADLER

[Harry]

23 minutes ago, ADLER said:

It's like saying that you have a passionate love/hate affair with a cardboard box.

Don’t knock it.  It hasn’t been too bad actually and I’m doing better financially.

[Udomann]

2 minutes ago, Harry said:

Don’t knock it.  It hasn’t been too bad actually and I’m doing better financially.

You've lost weight! and your husband looks good too

[untjim1995]

The thing with UTSA is that they arrived into CUSA declaring us as their rival. They got into CUSA because of their TV market, nothing else. We couldn’t get into CUSA until SMU left, while UTSA just starts a program and gets to waltz right in without anyone blocking them or looking down on them. We have had to fight for every single scrap we have ever gotten—then some big market team comes available and they got elevated to our same level, then poor salt all over those wounds by making us their Super Bowl every year and start beating us in recruiting. So they are a rival even if they are the new kid on the block and now that we have fought back, it appears the new kid is folding like a cheap tent.

[Mab2015]

1 hour ago, untjim1995 said:

This.

Heres your Texas CFB hierarchy of looking down at rivals:

UT>A&M>Tech>Baylor>TCU>SMU>UNT>UTSA>Texas State

Nobody cares at all about UH, Rice, or UTEP

Agree with this for the most part, but TCU and Baylor have probably leapfrogged Tech. Both schools recruit several 4 star players every year and Tech is consistently near the bottom of the Big 12 in recruiting. Also, both tcu and Baylor have been much more relevant over the past decade

[golfingomez]

4 hours ago, ADLER said:

There must be rivalry for someone to be considered a rival (by definition that is a prerequisite) , and frankly there is none.

On the UTSA board there have been a grand total of two new posts this week: How to watch the game on TV?, and What's your score prediction?.

We've been trying valiantly to get any kind of reaction from them, nothing. It's like watching kittens bat around a dead mouse. 

UTSA, aided by some blown calls, was able to pull an upset North Texas in 2013. That 'miracle' was long ago. Since then its been pretty much domination by North Texas, and we will have won four of the last five after Saturday's game.

So, can we please stop pretending that there is any type of rivalry, neither on or off the field.

ok... 

[Tyler Maryak]

I don't know if anyone has said this yet, but at this point I have to wonder...why do you care if other fans call it a rivalry? Rhetorical question...

[Cerebus]

1 hour ago, Harry said:

Don’t knock it.  It hasn’t been too bad actually and I’m doing better financially.