USA Today G5 Top 10

untcampbell · August 17, 2019

NT ranked #10 in G5, #44 amongst all bowl division teams. Only CUSA team in the Top 10. UAB and Houston in the others receiving votes, close behind. This was in today's paper.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/08/15/college-football-ucf-army-headline-group-five-power-rankings/1770477001/

Also, LB Hayden Harrison got a promotion....received a scholarship, per Mike Lawrence today.

https://meangreensports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4053

GMG

meanrob · August 17, 2019

25 minutes ago, untcampbell said:

NT ranked #10 in G5, #44 amongst all bowl division teams. Only CUSA team in the Top 10. UAB and Houston in the others receiving votes, close behind. This was in today's paper.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2019/08/15/college-football-ucf-army-headline-group-five-power-rankings/1770477001/

Also, LB Hayden Harrison got a promotion....received a scholarship, per Mike Lawrence today.

https://meangreensports.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4053

GMG

Not sold on Army. Besides the OU game they played a lackluster schedule and squeaked by some bad teams. I think UH with all the Major/Ed drama was checked out. And we’ll see how UCF does without their do it all QB over a full season

Rank’em after week four and we’ll see where everybody, including us, is at.

NTXCoog · August 17, 2019

Army isn't G5

NorthTexasWeLove · August 17, 2019

The plain existence of this ranking is blasphemy. Disband it now.

No one, officially, has drawn a line in the sand between the D1 FBS universities or athletic programs. The media with I'm sure the help of TV executives, for monetary purposes, has drawn this line. Ignore it. When/If they attempt to make it official tie it up in courts for years.

NorthTexasWeLove · August 17, 2019

1 minute ago, NTXCoog said:

Army isn't G5

Army is independent, like Notre Dame. But also like UMASS and UCONN. Does Army share more similarities to UCONN or Notre Dame? Admin support, facilities, athletic budget, fan support, etc. etc.

Coach Andy Mac · August 17, 2019

5 minutes ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

The plain existence of this ranking is blasphemy. Disband it now.

No one, officially, has drawn a line in the sand between the D1 FBS universities or athletic programs. The media with I'm sure the help of TV executives, for monetary purposes, has drawn this line. Ignore it. When/If they attempt to make it official tie it up in courts for years.

Houston has done one of the best jobs of ignoring it in my opinion. BYU and Boise as well. Let’s put ourselves in that company.

untjim1995 · August 17, 2019

Gee, who couldn’t see this coming??

greenminer · August 17, 2019

NorthTexasWeLove · August 17, 2019

9 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Well, Steve Hammond...I think you may be implying that ND and Army are categorically lumped together. So, does this fella put UMASS, BYU, NMSU, Liberty and UCONN in this same group? Notre Dame is a quasi-ACC team. They schedule 3-5 ACC teams each year in football and play a semi-ACC basketball schedule. They have the dolla dolla bills to notate themselves as a media driven "P5". These same dollar bills do not apply for these other universities. BYU may be the closest only due to their sanctificating cult they have over there in Provo. Church, non-profit? Psh. If we're going to play the P5 vs. G5 game, which I do not concede to, Army is clearly in the same grouping as us, LaTech, etc. Their schedule even dictates their grouping and that's self inflicted.

Army's 2019 football schedule:

08/30 - Rice
09/07 - at Michigan
09/14 - at UTSA
09/21 - Morgan State
10/05 - Tulane
10/12 - at WKU
10/19 - at Georgia State
10/26 - San Jose State
11/02 - at Air Force
11/09 - UMass
11/16 - VMI
12/01 - at Hawaii
12/14 - vs Navy (in Philadelphia, PA)

Where in this does this scream elite? And elite may not be Hammond's argument. But he certainly isn't relegating them to that nasty lower tier of media made "G5" status.

Wag Tag · August 17, 2019

App State has definitely been on the up swing. They also seem to have nice Athletic Facilities. Bet they would like to move up?

akriesman · August 18, 2019

They have UAB as just missing their top 10. When I saw this their G5 credibility dropped just a bit 😞

Coach Andy Mac · August 18, 2019

23 minutes ago, akriesman said:

They have UAB as just missing their top 10. When I saw this their G5 credibility dropped just a bit 😞

Very true. But then again Clark is a good coach. He may have a few tricks up his sleeve.

ChiefTenBeers2015 · August 18, 2019

And to think a few years ago we were playing Sun belt teams at Fouts.

Go Mean Green

MeanGreenTexan · August 18, 2019

This is the kind of list we have to crack, then remain on consistently before we can take the next steps on our way to bigger/better.

Baby steps. We’re getting there!

akriesman · August 18, 2019

4 hours ago, Coach Andy Mac said:

Very true. But then again Clark is a good coach. He may have a few tricks up his sleeve.

Yep, he is a really good coach. And, he may pull off having a competitive team. But based on what they have lost, picking them to be a good team this year seems quite the reach and it kind of shows that the media has not really done their research.

The media went crazy picking UNT basketball to be a NCAA tournament Cinderella back around 2013 with a loaded roster including Tony Mitchell. In the end, NT was a flop. Most here blame the coaching staff and it is hard to argue that point.

So in the end, maybe Clarke is good enough to make them competitive.

Edited August 18, 2019 by akriesman

forevereagle · August 19, 2019

On 8/17/2019 at 5:06 PM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

They schedule 3-5 ACC teams each year in football and play a semi-ACC basketball schedule.

Notre Dame is a member of the ACC in sports besides football. Because of this affiliation, they have to schedule 5 ACC games per season. That was the agreement when they joined to ACC a few years back.

NorthTexasWeLove · August 20, 2019

4 hours ago, forevereagle said:

Notre Dame is a member of the ACC in sports besides football. Because of this affiliation, they have to schedule 5 ACC games per season. That was the agreement when they joined to ACC a few years back.

Well, there ya go. So the fellas argument is invalid.

greenminer · August 20, 2019

P5/G5 is media/informal nomenclature specific to football conference affiliation. The topic at hand is football, and the governing body of this sport - the NCAA - formally recognizes ND football as independent. The same category as Army.