Time to invite Liberty to C-USA?

[Coach Bill Lewis]

Huge endowment, large athletic budget, power conference state of the art facilities, large student population with national enrollment footprint.   They fit perfectly into the C-USA eastern division geography.  Tons of political power as well.  Largest Christian University in the world.  We need to add them before the Belch or AAC does.

https://www.liberty.edu/journal/article/liberty-university-among-top-colleges-in-endowment-growth/

https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=38027

 

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, Coach Bill Lewis said:

Huge endowment, large athletic budget, power conference state of the art facilities, large student population with national enrollment footprint.   They fit perfectly into the C-USA eastern division geography.  Tons of political power as well.  Largest Christian University in the world.  We need to add them before the Belch or AAC does.

https://www.liberty.edu/journal/article/liberty-university-among-top-colleges-in-endowment-growth/

https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=38027

 

Nope, too much baggage.

Edited May 30, 2019 by UNTLifer

[ColoradoEagle]

Belt might take them. AAC schools would not associate themselves with that circus.

[NorthTexan95]

The biggest issue is splitting the meager pie CUSA gets with one more school.  We would be better off reducing by two schools.  Drop two schools from the East Division and move UAB to replace them for two, 6 team divisions.  

Edited May 30, 2019 by NorthTexan95

[GreenTexan13]

There is already Charlotte and Old Dominion taking that market for the east division. If Liberty wants to join CUSA, then one of those two in Virginia/Carolina needs to drop out. 

[eulessismore]

2 hours ago, Coach Bill Lewis said:

Huge endowment, large athletic budget, power conference state of the art facilities, large student population with national enrollment footprint.   They fit perfectly into the C-USA eastern division geography.  Tons of political power as well.  Largest Christian University in the world.  We need to add them before the Belch or AAC does.

https://www.liberty.edu/journal/article/liberty-university-among-top-colleges-in-endowment-growth/

https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?PID=38027

 

He said "huge endowment", which you can take to mean whatever you wish.  And I see nothing that would benefit UNT in helpring perfect "eastern division geography". BTW, political power can be fleeting.  I would like to see religiously affiliated schools demonstrate a greater degree of moral and ethical behavior, as well as general good sportsmanship than seen in recent years, but, just my opinion.

[meangreendork]

Nah. Their enrollment is something like 75% distance students and a lot are on federal aid. If the economy gets weird, that can change their situation very quickly. 

[Salsa_Verde]

Both CUSA and the Belt turned them down 2 years ago. It’s not about money because they obviously have it and it’s not a question about  facilities, they’re great. It’s all the political and religious stuff that an athletic conference doesn’t want to deal with. Lastly, why let Liberty in when you have a better alternative in James Madison University? 

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/9/21/16339764/liberty-football-fbs-conference-jerry-falwell-sun-belt

[Hunter Green]

2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Nope, too much baggage.

Baggage?

[Rudy]

If it means we're leaving for the MWC. No more startups. 

[GrandGreen]

I see no objections for SMU, TCU, Baylor, Notre Dame or any of the great number of religious affiliated schools. 

The obvious reason is those teams are in general not influenced at all by their affiliation.

Not as true with Liberty, who seem to take their religion a lot more seriously which they have every right to do so. 

I am not religious at all, but the anti-Liberty bias seems over the top to me. 

Look at some of the things that many of the power schools have gotten away with that actually affect competition. 

It seems to me a lot of people are putting down a lot of good students and athletes only because they don't like Jerry Falwell, sr. or jr. 

Having say that, CUSA doesn't need more teams.    

 

 

 

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, Hunter Green said:

Baggage?

Junk in the trunk?

[DeepGreen]

CUSA message saying that Rice is dropping down in football classification, FCS or lower.  Any truth to that?

[UNTLifer]

3 minutes ago, DeepGreen said:

CUSA message saying that Rice is dropping down in football classification, FCS or lower.  Any truth to that?

I hope not.  If they do choose this route, then they should be removed from CUSA and replaced with someone else.

[Aldo]

Let's get University of Phoenix in here while we're at it

[FirefightnRick]

1 hour ago, GrandGreen said:

I see no objections for SMU, TCU, Baylor, Notre Dame or any of the great number of religious affiliated schools. 

The obvious reason is those teams are in general not influenced at all by their affiliation.

Not as true with Liberty, who seem to take their religion a lot more seriously which they have every right to do so. 

I am not religious at all, but the anti-Liberty bias seems over the top to me. 

Look at some of the things that many of the power schools have gotten away with that actually affect competition. 

It seems to me a lot of people are putting down a lot of good students and athletes only because they don't like Jerry Falwell, sr. or jr. 

Having say that, CUSA doesn't need more teams.    

 

 

 

Agree, and I’d add Brigham Young to your list as well.

 

Rick

[Mean Green 93-98]

1 hour ago, GrandGreen said:

I see no objections for SMU, TCU, Baylor, Notre Dame or any of the great number of religious affiliated schools. 

The obvious reason is those teams are in general not influenced at all by their affiliation.

Not as true with Liberty, who seem to take their religion a lot more seriously which they have every right to do so. 

I am not religious at all, but the anti-Liberty bias seems over the top to me. 

Look at some of the things that many of the power schools have gotten away with that actually affect competition. 

It seems to me a lot of people are putting down a lot of good students and athletes only because they don't like Jerry Falwell, sr. or jr. 

Having say that, CUSA doesn't need more teams.    

I mostly agree with this.  What C-USA definitely does not need is another team just transitioning to FBS. 

If they begin making some national noise--in a positive way--then I would be willing to revisit adding Liberty.  Now is not the time to invite them.

[Harry]

They play a pretty tough schedule:

https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?pid=36961&TeamID=9

[Wag Tag]

How much will they pay to get in? It is all about the $$$$.

[El Paso Eagle]

If they got in they would be spending big $$$

Maybe it would force the others to invest

 

[Salsa_Verde]

3 hours ago, Harry said:

They play a pretty tough schedule:

https://www.liberty.edu/flames/index.cfm?pid=36961&TeamID=9

I think if they can get to a bowl game with 6 wins it will be a huge win for them. They’ll be right on the brink of doing that this upcoming season. 

[southsideguy]

5 hours ago, Aldo said:

Let's get University of Phoenix in here while we're at it

No way, the U of Phoenix has never lost a football game.

[MeanGreen2019]

I saw that Liberty offered something close to 30 million to join the conference. So why the hell not? Kick Charlotte out and give us some of that dough. That’s 2 million and some change per a team in the conference, could be greatly used to keep our football momentum going. Charlotte <<<<Liberty

[Harry]

They seem to be a team poised to do some good things and they could be a team that represents us well against P5 and G5 teams.

[Matt from A700]

12 hours ago, NorthTexan95 said:

The biggest issue is splitting the meager pie CUSA gets with one more school.  We would be better off reducing by two schools.  Drop two schools from the East Division and move UAB to replace them for two, 6 team divisions.  

UTSA going to FCS will help.