DRC: Report -- AAC lands $1 billion media rights deal from ESPN

untjim1995 · March 21, 2019

1 hour ago, UNTFan23 said:

Why does the MWC need the Texas markets and their exposure? They seem to do be doing just fine without it.

You don’t think TV networks would t like access to Texas markets? That alone would increase the payouts they all get IF the networks feel there is value. Right now, TCU, Baylor, and UH would give them that value. I’d love to believe we would too, but I am not such a homer to also ignore the fact that most of the country looks at us as a directional school in the lower g5s. More big wins like we got against Arkansas would really help, but so would not getting murdered in bowl games.

greenminer · March 21, 2019

I look at the F_Us as counterpoint: they want to be in a conference with Texas markets and they have it. How is it benefiting them? I don't see them ever sustaining success.

I also think - aside from a failing commish - that CUSA being so spread out is one of the main reasons the conference struggles so much.

I also worry that switching to the MWC would equate to spending 9 out of 10 years on the outside of championship games/tier 1 bowls looking in. On top of that, we'd lose our regional foes, and the away games would mean terrible start times for those in Central Time. In a way, I can see MWC foes looking at us as we currently view the F_Us.

UNTFan23 · March 21, 2019

3 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

You don’t think TV networks would t like access to Texas markets? That alone would increase the payouts they all get IF the networks feel there is value. Right now, TCU, Baylor, and UH would give them that value. I’d love to believe we would too, but I am not such a homer to also ignore the fact that most of the country looks at us as a directional school in the lower g5s. More big wins like we got against Arkansas would really help, but so would not getting murdered in bowl games.

There is this idea that adding G5 programs from Texas is going to enrich the MWC where adding them will somehow result in the multimedia disbursements increasing per MWC member institution. Chances are that won't happen. In fact, I'd expect the multimedia disbursements to decrease per institution if they added more G5 programs from anywhere as I don't think there is a G5 program that could deliver a large enough share of any market to result in a net increase.

greenminer · March 21, 2019

27 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

You don’t think TV networks would t like access to Texas markets? That alone would increase the payouts they all get IF the networks feel there is value. Right now, TCU, Baylor, and UH would give them that value. I’d love to believe we would too, but I am not such a homer to also ignore the fact that most of the country looks at us as a directional school in the lower g5s. More big wins like we got against Arkansas would really help, but so would not getting murdered in bowl games.

I think the TV market argument is losing strength. Because of the shift to streaming services, the decline of cable, and the stronghold the P5s have on everything.

How is the Texas market boosting the F_Us? I don't see them ever sustaining success. So why would I be interested in stretching ourselves westward, and becoming someone else's F_U?

This is endless and pointless. The CUSA ceiling right now is so much lower than the MWC, so IMO we're talking about sitting where we are at, contending for titles in a much smaller house...versus moving to the MWC and associating with bigger homes but not win any titles 9 out of 10 years. Not claim any sustained success. Plus we'd lose our regional foes. Plus away games would have horrible start times.

The G5 landscape just sucks in general. Thanks P5s. Thanks Judy MacLeod

Rudy · March 21, 2019

Too bad we couldn't hire a commissioner who knew what they were doing. It was more important to make a splash hire.

MeanGreenTexan · March 21, 2019

1 hour ago, greenminer said:

... In a way, I can see MWC foes looking at us as we currently view the F_Us.

untjim1995 · March 21, 2019

3 hours ago, Rudy said:

Too bad we couldn't hire a commissioner who knew what they were doing. It was more important to make a splash hire.

I think Judy McLeod isn’t a good commissioner, but she’s not gonna make any networks want to pay up for the teams we have in this league anymore than the SBC commissioner could do. Look, if you’re in CUSA today, it’s because you wanted out of the Belt or you couldn’t leave because you deliver nothing market wise or as a program. It’s just what it is, unfortunately, for us.

Salsa_Verde · March 21, 2019

If only there was a sport that was played through spring and summer that we could all talk about after basketball season was over.... I wonder if such a sport exists? 🤔

greenminer · March 22, 2019

4 hours ago, untjim1995 said:

Look, if you’re in CUSA today, it’s because you wanted out of the Belt or you couldn’t leave because you deliver nothing market wise or as a program. It’s just what it is, unfortunately, for us.

...or you wanted to join/follow the path of TCU/Memphis/Houston...

NorthTexasWeLove · March 22, 2019

7 hours ago, Rudy said:

Too bad we couldn't hire a commissioner who knew what they were doing. It was more important to make a splash hire.

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MeanGreenTexan · March 22, 2019

2 hours ago, Salsa_Verde said:

If only there was a sport that was played through spring and summer that we could all talk about after basketball season was over.... I wonder if such a sport exists? 🤔

I believe you’re looking for the kick-ass team over at Lovelace Stadium!

Salsa_Verde · March 22, 2019

Fair enough 😅

GrandGreen · March 22, 2019

I don't get all this complaining about CUSA, it is not like NT dominates. It is too spread out but so are most of the conferences these days. Joining the MWC would sure be a lot worse from a travel standpoint. Unless you dream they are gong to set up a Eastern Division.

Some of you remember the Big West days and that was pretty much a disaster. TCU went West and came back quickly, but they were a much more established program than NT is now.

As far as the AAC, NT offers more than a lot of teams in that league. Problem is that teams like SMU, Tulsa and Tulane got there first.

I do believe that getting offers from any step up conference is a very long shot as is this hope that the Big Twelve is going to somehow explode. May happen, but certainly not something to base any plans on.

CUSA is not a bad group of programs and most have a very good upside. I would like to get a new commissioner, not because I know that Maclead is not doing a good job. I just would like to see what fresh leadership not associated with the old Banowsky regime could accomplish.

UNTLifer · March 22, 2019

35 minutes ago, GrandGreen said:

CUSA is not a bad group of programs and most have a very good upside. I would like to get a new commissioner, not because I know that Maclead is not doing a good job. I just would like to see what fresh leadership not associated with the old Banowsky regime could accomplish.

This!

TheColonyEagle · March 22, 2019

On 3/21/2019 at 11:02 AM, RiseUNT said:

Five letters

S M U N O

I see this come up often....

SMU has no leverage. Why would they have any say on our conference affiliation. They haven't had any influence since 1982.

I'm not saying we're headed for the AAC, but it's got nothing to do with SMU. If they disappeared from the AAC...no one would care.

and I'm not talking trash about SMU (there will be plenty of time for that) but it's just an objective fact....

Edited March 22, 2019 by TheColonyEagle

TheColonyEagle · March 22, 2019

On 3/19/2019 at 5:42 PM, jdennis82 said:

If CUSA is going to level the financial playing field, it's got to start on the gridiron. We've got two shots in 2019 to do our part...

Saturday, Sept 7 - at SMU

Saturday, Sept 28 - vs HOU

Can't be overstated....

There's one way and one way only to control us....and it's on the field.

Want recruiting to improve? win those two games

Want local media to pay attention? win those two games

Want national attention? win those two games

Want fans in the stands? win those two games

Want to be seen as a top G5? win those two games

All the other stuff: media, reputation, P5 bias, conference USA....we can't control that. But we can control how we play vs UH and SMU

This staff simply has to win those 2 games

untjim1995 · March 22, 2019

1 hour ago, TheColonyEagle said:

I see this come up often....

SMU has no leverage. Why would they have any say on our conference affiliation. They haven't had any influence since 1982.

I'm not saying we're headed for the AAC, but it's got nothing to do with SMU. If they disappeared from the AAC...no one would care.

and I'm not talking trash about SMU (there will be plenty of time for that) but it's just an objective fact....

True on SMU, but no conference is going to overlap TV markets anytime soon. We are never going to be in a conference with SMU unless the Upper G5’s recognize cost is bigger than revenues at our level.

untjim1995 · March 22, 2019

12 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

I don't get all this complaining about CUSA, it is not like NT dominates. It is too spread out but so are most of the conferences these days. Joining the MWC would sure be a lot worse from a travel standpoint. Unless you dream they are gong to set up a Eastern Division.

Some of you remember the Big West days and that was pretty much a disaster. TCU went West and came back quickly, but they were a much more established program than NT is now.

As far as the AAC, NT offers more than a lot of teams in that league. Problem is that teams like SMU, Tulsa and Tulane got there first.

I do believe that getting offers from any step up conference is a very long shot as is this hope that the Big Twelve is going to somehow explode. May happen, but certainly not something to base any plans on.

CUSA is not a bad group of programs and most have a very good upside. I would like to get a new commissioner, not because I know that Maclead is not doing a good job. I just would like to see what fresh leadership not associated with the old Banowsky regime could accomplish.

It’s not even possible for me to disagree more than I do with this post.

Edited March 23, 2019 by untjim1995

Salsa_Verde · March 22, 2019

6 hours ago, GrandGreen said:

I don't get all this complaining about CUSA, it is not like NT dominates. It is too spread out but so are most of the conferences these days. Joining the MWC would sure be a lot worse from a travel standpoint. Unless you dream they are gong to set up a Eastern Division.

Some of you remember the Big West days and that was pretty much a disaster. TCU went West and came back quickly, but they were a much more established program than NT is now.

As far as the AAC, NT offers more than a lot of teams in that league. Problem is that teams like SMU, Tulsa and Tulane got there first.

I do believe that getting offers from any step up conference is a very long shot as is this hope that the Big Twelve is going to somehow explode. May happen, but certainly not something to base any plans on.

CUSA is not a bad group of programs and most have a very good upside. I would like to get a new commissioner, not because I know that Maclead is not doing a good job. I just would like to see what fresh leadership not associated with the old Banowsky regime could accomplish.

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RiseUNT · March 23, 2019

6 hours ago, TheColonyEagle said:

I see this come up often....

SMU has no leverage. Why would they have any say on our conference affiliation. They haven't had any influence since 1982.

I'm not saying we're headed for the AAC, but it's got nothing to do with SMU. If they disappeared from the AAC...no one would care.

and I'm not talking trash about SMU (there will be plenty of time for that) but it's just an objective fact....

It has everything to do with SMU. We bring 0 to a conference with SMU in it.

A conference is a group of schools that work together to compete together. Adding UNT will take the conference (group of schools) to agree. So saying SMU has no say in us joining the AAC is ridiculous. Add on all the back room politics and money they have to throw around.

Harry · March 23, 2019

38 minutes ago, RiseUNT said:

It has everything to do with SMU. We bring 0 to a conference with SMU in it.

A conference is a group of schools that work together to compete together. Adding UNT will take the conference (group of schools) to agree. So saying SMU has no say in us joining the AAC is ridiculous. Add on all the back room politics and money they have to throw around.

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97and03 · March 23, 2019

The only reason SMUt is a barrier is because we bring nothing to the conference if there is another team in the market, not bc of some Pony conspiracy.

greenminer · March 23, 2019

4 hours ago, RiseUNT said:

It has everything to do with SMU. We bring 0 to a conference with SMU in it.

A conference is a group of schools that work together to compete together. Adding UNT will take the conference (group of schools) to agree. So saying SMU has no say in us joining the AAC is ridiculous. Add on all the back room politics and money they have to throw around.

SMU has some weight to throw around, but they aren’t acting against us. Or for us. I don’t think they care about us. If anything, they just want to get their shit together and beat us on the field.

RiseUNT · March 23, 2019

13 minutes ago, greenminer said:

SMU has some weight to throw around, but they aren’t acting against us. Or for us. I don’t think they care about us. If anything, they just want to get their shit together and beat us on the field.

So if they don't care about us why would they let us in a conference with them and share their AAC money?

Salsa_Verde · March 23, 2019

5 hours ago, RiseUNT said:

It has everything to do with SMU. We bring 0 to a conference with SMU in it.

A conference is a group of schools that work together to compete together. Adding UNT will take the conference (group of schools) to agree. So saying SMU has no say in us joining the AAC is ridiculous. Add on all the back room politics and money they have to throw around.

Who is throwing this money around exactly? Is it the same people that don’t show up to the games or make an ill conceived deck that no one goes too? Once again someone says SMU has money and influence, if they did SMU would have more people in the stands for football games and would recruit better players to make the tournament.