DRC position outlook series -- QB: Fine is back to cap remarkable career

Brett Vito · February 12, 2019

DRC:

https://www.dentonrc.com/sports/colleges/unt-quarterback-outlook-for-fine-returns-to-further-cement-legacy/article_062d99ec-b5e1-5a9f-826f-83dfbca9fd03.html

SilverEagle · February 12, 2019

"why 2019 production could be worse: If there is anything the New Mexico Bowl showed, it's how much UNT depends on Fine as a team. The Mean Green were locked in a 7-7 game with the Aggies when Fine pulled a hamstring. Utah State capitalized when Fine went down and pulled away for a 52-13 win. UNT just isn't the same without Fine who has was knocked out for the season late in his freshman year. The players backing up Fine have little to no experience. If Fine is lost for any length of time, UNT's chances to be as good as it was last year are gone."

All of this can be avoided if he gets the backups out there asap to get some actual game time experience. And I don't mean just handing it off, or running with the ball themselves. He should send the backups out there and pretend he's Lane Kiffin or Steve Spurrier and tell the QB to "light em up", ...........to hell with being a good sport.

MeanGreenTexan · February 12, 2019

12 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

"why 2019 production could be worse: If there is anything the New Mexico Bowl showed, it's how much UNT depends on Fine as a team. The Mean Green were locked in a 7-7 game with the Aggies when Fine pulled a hamstring. Utah State capitalized when Fine went down and pulled away for a 52-13 win. UNT just isn't the same without Fine who has was knocked out for the season late in his freshman year. The players backing up Fine have little to no experience. If Fine is lost for any length of time, UNT's chances to be as good as it was last year are gone."

All of this can be avoided if he gets the backups out there asap to get some actual game time experience. And I don't mean just handing it off, or running with the ball themselves. He should send the backups out there and pretend he's Lane Kiffin or Steve Spurrier and tell the QB to "light em up", ...........to hell with being a good sport.

Does anyone else here seriously believe any of the backups are going to be able to do the things Fine can do?

Silver,
Are you really saying that if QS had more mop-up reps (when he would likely run the ball to protect the lead, he's not stupid) he would have been able to win the NM Bowl for us instead of throwing 3 INTs?

SilverEagle · February 12, 2019

12 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Does anyone else here seriously believe any of the backups are going to be able to do the things Fine can do?

Silver,
Are you really saying that if QS had more mop-up reps (when he would likely run the ball to protect the lead, he's not stupid) he would have been able to win the NM Bowl for us instead of throwing 3 INTs?

First of all, Fine does the things that he does because he gets the vast majority of reps in practice......and {as I said in my initial assessment in the fall of his freshman year} he oozes confidence from every pore. That being said, no one knew how well he would eventually do here despite all his accomplishments in HS. Does Harrell's coaching figure into how Fine has developed, or is it all Fine?

And no, if the backups don't get the same number of reps in practice, or real time reps in games, they won't ever be able to do the "things Fine can do".

We'll never know if his lack of game reps (and basically handing off when he did get in the game} the last two years, adversely affected QS's play in the New Mexico bowl.

But, Texan, if all you had been doing, sexually, for the last two years is hand holding and some light petting, how well do you think you would perform with Sofia Vergara if someone suddenly dropped you into her bedroom and you were told ...….ok Texan it's show time, rock her world.

Aldo · February 12, 2019

um...

MeanGreenTexan · February 12, 2019

12 minutes ago, SilverEagle said:

First of all, Fine does the things that he does because he gets the vast majority of reps in practice......and {as I said in my initial assessment in the fall of his freshman year} he oozes confidence from every pore. That being said, no one knew how well he would eventually do here despite all his accomplishments in HS. Does Harrell's coaching figure into how Fine has developed, or is it all Fine?

And no, if the backups don't get the same number of reps in practice, or real time reps in games, they won't ever be able to do the "things Fine can do".

We'll never know if his lack of game reps (and basically handing off when he did get in the game} the last two years, adversely affected QS's play in the New Mexico bowl.

But, Texan, if all you had been doing, sexually, for the last two years is hand holding and some light petting, how well do you think you would perform with Sofia Vergara if someone suddenly dropped you into her bedroom and you were told ...….ok Texan it's show time, rock her world.

1. Fine WON the reps in practice during his Freshman year. He's a better QB.

2. Wasn't Harrell also coaching QS and the others?

3. I'm willing to bet that if QS got every single rep with the 1's (which is what I think you mean... because he's certainly not just standing around for every single practice), he would still be way less effective than Fine. Not a knock on QS, rather, heaping praise on our school's greatest QB of All-time. Are we really having this conversation? We may not see another QB that can do "the things Fine can do" in our lifetime. Soak it up for 1 more year!

4. Backup QBs only get in for mop-up duty or injury anywhere. Not just here. If you're up big, you're not going to call a bunch of pass plays. And I'm willing to bet that quite a few of the plays QS "took off" on, were pass plays. He's a runner, that's what he did. Came in handy VS FAU, as they continued to defend against him like a passer & he shredded them. UTSt was obviously a little more prepared for that.

5. You're vastly overrating my love life over the past 2 years. I will say though, that if some aged, loud woman barged into my bedroom asking me to rock her world, she would be beaten nearly to death & dragged out before I could even say anything because my wife enjoys my suffering.

greenminer · February 12, 2019

Fines the only full time starter we’ve seen under Seth. I don’t know how the next QB will compare.

Aldo · February 12, 2019

Unless the game is comfortably over in the 4th quarter, I don't want to see a backup. We haven't had much opportunity for that, though.

MeanGreenTexan · February 12, 2019

13 minutes ago, Aldo said:

Unless the game is comfortably over in the 4th quarter, I don't want to see a backup. We haven't had much opportunity for that, though.

Even then, that's Torrey's time to pad stats. Vanilla playcalling to reduce risk.

peanuts104 · February 12, 2019

2 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

5. You're vastly overrating my love life over the past 2 years. I will say though, that if some aged, loud woman barged into my bedroom asking me to rock her world, she would be beaten nearly to death & dragged out before I could even say anything because my wife enjoys my suffering.

Giggity.

97and03 · February 12, 2019

#triggered

El Paso Eagle · February 12, 2019

I'm all for Fine getting the snaps - he has earned it. But its also on the coaches then to come up with a better way to have the backup ready.

FirefightnRick · February 13, 2019

1 hour ago, El Paso Eagle said:

I'm all for Fine getting the snaps - he has earned it. But its also on the coaches then to come up with a better way to have the backup ready.

Correct. And how do you know this? Because you’ve seen it before. You’ve seen other teams win with their back ups. Hell, Rice was only down 3 points going into the 4th against us with their 4th or 5th string QB and UTSA nearly beat us with their back up.

Im hoping Reeder brings in a system that takes pressure off the QB so Mason doesn’t have to carry his team. But if he does go down the next in line can get the job done.

Rick

emmitt01 · February 13, 2019

6 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

First of all, Fine does the things that he does because he gets the vast majority of reps in practice......and {as I said in my initial assessment in the fall of his freshman year} he oozes confidence from every pore. That being said, no one knew how well he would eventually do here despite all his accomplishments in HS. Does Harrell's coaching figure into how Fine has developed, or is it all Fine?

And no, if the backups don't get the same number of reps in practice, or real time reps in games, they won't ever be able to do the "things Fine can do".

We'll never know if his lack of game reps (and basically handing off when he did get in the game} the last two years, adversely affected QS's play in the New Mexico bowl.

But, Texan, if all you had been doing, sexually, for the last two years is hand holding and some light petting, how well do you think you would perform with Sofia Vergara if someone suddenly dropped you into her bedroom and you were told ...….ok Texan it's show time, rock her world.

I think I speak for every man on this board when I say that, if Sofia Vergara were dropped into our bedroom, it would be the best 3 minutes of OUR life

Censored by Laurie · February 13, 2019

8 minutes ago, emmitt01 said:

I think I speak for every man on this board when I say that, if Sofia Vergara were dropped into our bedroom, it would be the best 3 minutes of OUR life

you'd have 2 minutes of conversation after, huh? don't think I could...her voice wears me out

UNTLifer · February 13, 2019

3 hours ago, Censored by Laurie said:

you'd have 2 minutes of conversation after, huh? don't think I could...her voice wears me out

Man face as well.

RiseUNT · February 13, 2019

54-52 Touchdowns to interceptions 4 years before Fine and Seth.

64-25 Mason Fine tds to ints.

11-11 Every other QB under Seth at UNT.

Seth as an OC coached a first round pick, third round pick, a sixth round pick, and a guy now in the AAF. Seth thinks the world of Mason Fine so that really tells me something about the football skills of Mason Fine.

At 6 feet Baker Mayfield proved you can draft a short Qb early. Kyler at 5 8 hopefully will prove that height isn't a problem again. Forget all this back-up rep talk. If Mason can stand he needs to be getting stats. UNT getting a QB drafted means more than a conference championship, a bowl win, or any kick return ever will to recruits.

ChiefTenBeers2015 · February 13, 2019

11 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

First of all, Fine does the things that he does because he gets the vast majority of reps in practice......and {as I said in my initial assessment in the fall of his freshman year} he oozes confidence from every pore. That being said, no one knew how well he would eventually do here despite all his accomplishments in HS. Does Harrell's coaching figure into how Fine has developed, or is it all Fine?

And no, if the backups don't get the same number of reps in practice, or real time reps in games, they won't ever be able to do the "things Fine can do".

We'll never know if his lack of game reps (and basically handing off when he did get in the game} the last two years, adversely affected QS's play in the New Mexico bowl.

But, Texan, if all you had been doing, sexually, for the last two years is hand holding and some light petting, how well do you think you would perform with Sofia Vergara if someone suddenly dropped you into her bedroom and you were told ...….ok Texan it's show time, rock her world.

If all I’d been doin is hand holdin and lite pettin...got to be the best post I’ve seen on this board in a long long long time...that and Archer’s comment about a certain hashtag...I need to check into that apparently...

SilverEagle · February 13, 2019

15 hours ago, emmitt01 said:

I think I speak for every man on this board when I say that, if Sofia Vergara were dropped into our bedroom, it would be the best 3 minutes of OUR life

This reminds me of when Angie Dickenson confessed to having a "quickie" with Jack Kennedy..."It was the most exciting 20 seconds of my life".

Jack was obviously a busy man................😎