And The Have’s Carry On...

[UNTLifer]

https://collegefootball.ap.org/dentonrc/article/sec-announces-average-payouts-431-million-school

This is why we should collect no less than $2 million for body bag games. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

Though I agree, demanding more money can't be our ("little" guy programs) battle cry for change. Far more needs to and must happen. 

[UNTLifer]

1 hour ago, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Though I agree, demanding more money can't be our ("little" guy programs) battle cry for change. Far more needs to and must happen. 

Yep, the G5's need to pursue this, but I think the fear is that the "P5's" will just break away from the NCAA making everything worse.

[Jason Howeth]

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

Yep, the G5's need to pursue this, but I think the fear is that the "P5's" will just break away from the NCAA making everything worse.

I don't see this. There's so much tied to "moving up" in the NCAA that the school administrators know any move away to establish themselves as an independent division will destroy any chances of playing on a big stage. They'll stay in FBS I-A, and never regret it. At least then they have the opportunity for more games to be shown on TV and to grow the fanbase. If teams were to do that, basically all OOC games in P5 would be against other P5 schools. Nobody wants that, not even the P5s.

[Legend500]

This ignores, of course, that the P5s have some pretty big splits within themselves. The teams that have the most to lose from P5s splitting off are P5 teams who aren't in the special 24 that would leave. There will then be opportunities for consolidation and some departures for the remaining P5s. This will undoubtedly sweep up some G5s, but by then everything will be burning already. 

The last round of realignment was about inventory, but with less money to spend and with inventory assured, the next round will be about optimization and efficiency. In this, Wren is well ahead of the ball and doing a great job. You can safely assume that Texas, Oklahoma and A&M will be part of the "optimization," so building ties with the have-beens is incredibly important right now. Wren sees this efficiency trend coming, which is why adding Houston and Baylor to our schedule to make us an Texas-centered program is so important. 

UNT's aim should always be to be in the conference with the most Texas teams. That guarantees exposure, enhances attendance, and provides some viewership buy in which doesn't fully exist now. While we're a ways from the promised land, a certain number of programs leaving the NCAA is to our benefit. If the 24 model is what happens, for example, it leaves the XII in very precarious shape. In that case, it's up to Tech, Houston and us to get everybody wrangled into one SWC. It's a pipe dream now, but every G5's efforts in the state should be driven towards an ultimate goal of a reborn SWC with some combination of Baylor, Houston, Rice, SMU, TCU, Texas State, Texas Tech, UNT, UTEP,  and UTSA, with the possible addition of LATech, NM, NMSU, OSU, Tulsa, and Louisiana. 

[GrandGreen]

1 hour ago, Legend500 said:

This ignores, of course, that the P5s have some pretty big splits within themselves. The teams that have the most to lose from P5s splitting off are P5 teams who aren't in the special 24 that would leave. There will then be opportunities for consolidation and some departures for the remaining P5s. This will undoubtedly sweep up some G5s, but by then everything will be burning already. 

The last round of realignment was about inventory, but with less money to spend and with inventory assured, the next round will be about optimization and efficiency. In this, Wren is well ahead of the ball and doing a great job. You can safely assume that Texas, Oklahoma and A&M will be part of the "optimization," so building ties with the have-beens is incredibly important right now. Wren sees this efficiency trend coming, which is why adding Houston and Baylor to our schedule to make us an Texas-centered program is so important. 

UNT's aim should always be to be in the conference with the most Texas teams. That guarantees exposure, enhances attendance, and provides some viewership buy in which doesn't fully exist now. While we're a ways from the promised land, a certain number of programs leaving the NCAA is to our benefit. If the 24 model is what happens, for example, it leaves the XII in very precarious shape. In that case, it's up to Tech, Houston and us to get everybody wrangled into one SWC. It's a pipe dream now, but every G5's efforts in the state should be driven towards an ultimate goal of a reborn SWC with some combination of Baylor, Houston, Rice, SMU, TCU, Texas State, Texas Tech, UNT, UTEP,  and UTSA, with the possible addition of LATech, NM, NMSU, OSU, Tulsa, and Louisiana. 

The only ones for a new SWC conference would be the teams in the Belt and CUSA.   As long as this ridiculous athletic arms race continues, saving a few coins by joining a regional conference is not a priority. 

NT's goal is moving up in the football and basketball hierarchy and there are no easy paths to achieve this.   UH for example has been more successful for a longer time and has a much bigger budget, but still is g5.  

NT is doing all that they can winning games and building facilities to be ready if an opportunity to move up arises.