Confirmed Harrell to USC

TheReal_jayD · January 27, 2019

Sources have told Harrell to USC is a done deal.

Harry · January 27, 2019

Good info- can’t blame him as USC OC is a big time gig and $$ where he will get to work with some great QB talent. Best of luck to Coach Harrell and his family! Much appreciate his efforts and results while here.

Pur coaches moving to greener pastures is a good thing BTW. Hasn’t always been the case. Now we gotta find a good replacement! GMG!

Wag Tag · January 27, 2019

14 minutes ago, TheReal_jayD said:

Sources have told Harrell to USC is a done deal.

Good for him! Congrats! GMG

jtm0097 · January 27, 2019

I don't blame him for trying to better himself. He was a nice dude when I met him last year. Thanks for your contributions to the program. GMG!

Hall Eagle 2011 · January 27, 2019

Super happy for the Harrell family, regardless of if we think it's a good move for him. It would be hard to turn that money down.

So, do we like our options for replacements? Give us the nitty-gritty.

FirefightnRick · January 27, 2019

For starters...

https://uiwcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2014&path=football

https://troytrojans.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1169&path=football

http://www.judolphins.com/sports/fball/coaches/Shields_Ian?view=bio

https://lamarcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=341

Rick

Edited January 27, 2019 by FirefightnRick

Felozano · January 27, 2019

1 minute ago, FirefightnRick said:

https://uiwcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2014&path=football

https://troytrojans.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1169&path=football

http://www.judolphins.com/sports/fball/coaches/Shields_Ian?view=bio

https://lamarcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=341

Rick

Thanks for the names, FFR. Why did you land on these guys?

Salsa_Verde · January 27, 2019

Do any recruits decommit because he’s leaving?

p_phelps · January 27, 2019

1 minute ago, Salsa_Verde said:

Do any recruits decommit because he’s leaving?

all our recruits have already signed. They can't decommit.

TheReal_jayD · January 27, 2019

2 minutes ago, Salsa_Verde said:

Do any recruits decommit because he’s leaving?

No

Mean Green Matt · January 27, 2019

Obviously the goal should be to one day be able to hang onto these coaches (however far out that may be), but if the reasons for needing to replace a coach are: 1) they were pretty good and got hired away or 2) were really terrible and had to be replaced, I'll certainly take #1. Best of luck to Coach Harrell and his family. Thank you for your contributions.

BillySee58 · January 27, 2019

1 minute ago, Mean Green Matt said:

Obviously the goal should be to one day be able to hang onto these coaches (however far out that may be), but if the reasons for needing to replace a coach are: 1) they were pretty good and got hired away or 2) were really terrible and had to be replaced, I'll certainly take #1. Best of luck to Coach Harrell and his family. Thank you for your contributions.

The best teams don’t hang on to their OCs. Alabama has a new one every year

Mean Green Matt · January 27, 2019

23 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

For starters...

https://uiwcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2014&path=football

https://troytrojans.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1169&path=football

http://www.judolphins.com/sports/fball/coaches/Shields_Ian?view=bio

https://lamarcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=341

Rick

Eric Morris would be awesome if we could somehow get him away from UIW for a coordinator position. That has the potential to basically set up a head coach in waiting.

Mean Green Matt · January 27, 2019

Just now, BillySee58 said:

The best teams don’t hang on to their OCs. Alabama has a new one every year

Theirs mostly leave for head coaching positions. Maybe my point was not clear. I just hope we continue moving forward and keep becoming less and less susceptible to poaching for lateral positions. We have QUITE a ways to go to catch the likes of USC, but hopefully in the coming years we can catch the bottom of what is now the P5.

southsideguy · January 27, 2019

get Moore he has done great things with the Troy OL, two for one dude.

GreenN'walinsVet · January 27, 2019

26 minutes ago, Mean Green Matt said:

Theirs mostly leave for head coaching positions. Maybe my point was not clear. I just hope we continue moving forward and keep becoming less and less susceptible to poaching for lateral positions. We have QUITE a ways to go to catch the likes of USC, but hopefully in the coming years we can catch the bottom of what is now the P5.

I’m pretty sure USC OC is not considered a lateral move by anyone in the coaching ranks.

Make no mistake. Graham effectively received a promotion. Even if the title is the same.

Mean Green Matt · January 27, 2019

Just now, GreenN'walinsVet said:

I’m pretty sure USC OC is not considered a lateral move by anyone in the coaching ranks.

Make no mistake. Graham effectively received a promotion. Even if the title is the same.

Agree. That’s why I said lateral position.

NorthTexan95 · January 27, 2019

39 minutes ago, BillySee58 said:

The best teams don’t hang on to their OCs. Alabama has a new one every year

Unless your Clemson.

TheTastyGreek · January 27, 2019

USCya later!

Caw Caw · January 27, 2019

Maybe he learns a few things and comes back as the next head coach of UNT. Would be happy for him to learn a few things at a program like that and comes back with some california connections and new wisdom. Congrats and GMG.

TheReal_jayD · January 27, 2019

1 hour ago, FirefightnRick said:

For starters...

https://uiwcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=2014&path=football

https://troytrojans.com/coaches.aspx?rc=1169&path=football

http://www.judolphins.com/sports/fball/coaches/Shields_Ian?view=bio

https://lamarcardinals.com/coaches.aspx?rc=341

Rick

41 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

get Moore he has done great things with the Troy OL, two for one dude.

I believe he was just named OC at West Virginia

Wag Tag · January 27, 2019

1 minute ago, Caw Caw said:

Maybe he learns a few things and comes back as the next head coach of UNT. Would be happy for him to learn a few things at a program like that and comes back with some california connections and new wisdom. Congrats and GMG.

KG was USC’s head coach in waiting at $3m a year. This will not be the case for Graham! With the Texas connections and experience as a USC OC I could definitely see him as a candidate for the future HC job at UNT! Is it important for us to hire an OC that has HC potential?

Wag Tag · January 27, 2019

Applewhite??

jdennis82 · January 27, 2019

While his in-game ability has been questioned on the board (as is the case with every OC in the country), the work he did in building up the young man who will go down as the best QB in our school's history should always be reason for NT fans to appreciate Harrell's time in Denton. Will be rooting for his success.

The timing of this may play into our favor as there are several reasons OC gig here should be very appealing to potential candidates:

QB position is settled and spectacular
Littrell's arrow is pointing up and he proved with KState that he's loyal to his staff
Those with HC aspirations may see opportunity to be in position to have a leg up on other replacement candidates if Littrell moves on (as @Wag Tag suggested)

I think we all recognize that Littrell has become one of the more well-connected coaches in the game (certainly at the G5 level) and I think he'll have plenty of quality options to choose from.

Side Show Joe · January 27, 2019

Congratulations to Harrell and his family, I hope he does a great job.

As for where I think we turn, Baker and Littrell like successful guys with Oklahoma and Texas ties. Here is my best guess...

Tim Albin, the OC at Ohio. He has been very successful at Ohio. Ohio had a better offense then UNT last season, putting up more yardage and points then the Mean Green. Plus the guy is a native of Oklahoma where he graduated from college and served as a head coach, so he understands the players and recruiting. Albin makes about $150,000 a year at Ohio. Harrell was making $275,000. I believe Baker can afford him.

Edited January 27, 2019 by Side Show Joe