Cardinals give Kliff Kingsbury four-year deal to be new head coach

El Paso Eagle · January 8, 2019

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25715541/arizona-cardinals-hire-kliff-kingsbury

Christopher Walker · January 8, 2019

I know the nature of these heading coaching jobs is an apples to oranges comparison, but I can't help but feel the constantly failing upward joke should be made.

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Wag Tag · January 8, 2019

Good for him. The qb whisper!

UNTLifer · January 8, 2019

He can thank Mahomes and Manziel.

Mean Green Matt · January 9, 2019

This is a bit of a different gig. He theoretically no longer has a talent gap (Texas, Oklahoma) to overcome because of the salary cap. I bet he does ok.

Wag Tag · January 9, 2019

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

He can thank Mahomes and Manziel.

Mayfield and Bowman and so on! Keenum Webb ( had to amend)

Edited January 9, 2019 by Wag Tag

El Paso Eagle · January 9, 2019

1 hour ago, UNTLifer said:

He can thank Mahomes and Manziel.

Or maybe they can thank him.

Wag Tag · January 9, 2019

Saw an interesting tidbit! Mayfield was the first freshman walk on to open a season at a BCS school in NCAA history! Cool

Salsa_Verde · January 9, 2019

....Damn that beautiful bastard 😅

FirefightnRick · January 9, 2019

2 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

This is a bit of a different gig. He theoretically no longer has a talent gap (Texas, Oklahoma) to overcome because of the salary cap. I bet he does ok.

More like the other way around in that the other teams won’t have a talent gap on defense like the Lamar’s, Kansas’, Eastern Washington’s , Baylor’s, Stephen F.’s, Houston’s...etc 3-5 Sunday’s each season. It’ll be Texas and Oklahoma defense EVERY Sunday each season..

Rick

Edited January 9, 2019 by FirefightnRick

RiseUNT · January 9, 2019

2 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

This is a bit of a different gig. He theoretically no longer has a talent gap (Texas, Oklahoma) to overcome because of the salary cap. I bet he does ok.

No

NT93 · January 9, 2019

Fired from Texas Tech and hired by the Arizona Cardinals? Isn't that kind of like getting fired by Sam Houston State and getting hired by Arizona State??? I mean, doesn't the level above usually hire away a successful coach from the lower level. Good for him, but very weird.

Edited January 9, 2019 by NT93

Censored by Laurie · January 9, 2019

12 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

This is a bit of a different gig. He theoretically no longer has a talent gap (Texas, Oklahoma) to overcome because of the salary cap. I bet he does ok.

Tempe definitely has more talent than Lubbock.

MeanGreenTexan · January 9, 2019

13 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

This is a bit of a different gig. He theoretically no longer has a talent gap (Texas, Oklahoma) to overcome because of the salary cap. I bet he does ok.

I wouldn't say there was a "talent gap" between Tech & Baylor or KSSt, but he lost to both of them as well.
I can't say Arizona can do worse than 3-13, but... well, yeah I can.

Would have been a great Offensive Coordinator hire. He's an awful NFL Head Coach hire though.

TIgreen01 · January 9, 2019

Copycat move that looks ultra desperate on the surface. Who is going to run the defense? Has that been finalized or announced?

NT93 · January 9, 2019

Here's an HSO for you: This hire marks the beginning of the end for the Air Raid type offense. NFL coordinators figure out how to stop it and college coaches (and HS coaches) follow suit.

Aldo · January 9, 2019

18 minutes ago, NT93 said:

Here's an HSO for you: This hire marks the beginning of the end for the Air Raid type offense. NFL coordinators figure out how to stop it and college coaches (and HS coaches) follow suit.

Teams like the Eagles, Patriots, and Chiefs have been running air raid concepts for a while now. I think it'll be aight.

MeanGreenTexan · January 9, 2019

5 minutes ago, Aldo said:

Teams like the Eagles, Patriots, and Chiefs have been running air raid concepts for a while now. I think it'll be aight.

Yep. It's why all of Leach's slot guys killed it there for several years.

NT93 · January 9, 2019

37 minutes ago, NT93 said:

Here's an HSO for you: This hire marks the beginning of the end for the Air Raid type offense. NFL coordinators figure out how to stop it and college coaches (and HS coaches) follow suit.

15 minutes ago, Aldo said:

Teams like the Eagles, Patriots, and Chiefs have been running air raid concepts for a while now. I think it'll be aight.

This is why you shouldn't post about things when you are ignorant of them. I'm a huge college football fan, but I don't watch the NFL. I had no idea that NFL teams were running Air Raid stuff. Based on the teams you listed, I'd say its working out ok.

Now, where is that "embarrassed" emoji???

greenminer · January 9, 2019

51 minutes ago, NT93 said:

Here's an HSO for you: This hire marks the beginning of the end for the Air Raid type offense. NFL coordinators figure out how to stop it and college coaches (and HS coaches) follow suit.

Different games. The triple option is still around. The run and shoot. Now the air raid. There is a reason these college offenses survive (and will continue). The NFL dabbles with elements, but in general the schemes don’t survive on the upper level because there is size and speed speed speed every where, at every position. It really is more about player tangibles rather than coaching x-and-os. The college game cannot match the speed around the field, at every position, that you see at the NFL so coaches will use these gimmicks to manipulate (create or neutralize) player mismatches to their advantage

The other gimmicks are still around. I don’t see the Air Raid going anywhere either

Edited January 9, 2019 by greenminer

greenminer · January 9, 2019

https://es.pn/2TyhK5C

Aldo · January 9, 2019

1 hour ago, NT93 said:

This is why you shouldn't post about things when you are ignorant of them. I'm a huge college football fan, but I don't watch the NFL. I had no idea that NFL teams were running Air Raid stuff. Based on the teams you listed, I'd say its working out ok.

It's no biggie. Just do want to point out there are no air raid NFL "teams". Just teams using specific concepts.

But the increase use of these concepts have aided guys like Jared Goff, Nick Foles, Case Keenum, Pat Mahomes, and Baker Mayfield as of late.

Edited January 9, 2019 by Aldo

Cerebus · January 9, 2019

Seems like Coach Bro wants to take the new TXST coach as his OC.

MeanGreenTexan · January 9, 2019

5 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Seems like Coach Bro wants to take the new TXST coach as his OC.

If he takes Spavital, he'd better take on a Defensive coordinator with some HC experience.

EDIT: This is really starting to look similar to Dodge-to-NT.

Edited January 9, 2019 by MeanGreenTexan

UNTLifer · January 9, 2019

This is a copycat move based on the success of the Rams and Bears. Of course the Rams and Bears have Wade Phillips and Vic Fangio as their defensive coordinators.