MGN: NT AT UAB FOR THE DIVISION

aztecskin · October 15, 2018

https://meangreennation.com/this-uab-game-is-for-the-division/

Tie breaking scenarios contained within.

If I were not an NT fan, I would be rooting for an NT win simply for the fact that it means that a three way tie means that 1) we will all care about the CFP decisions, and 2) those money games Tech and UAB scheduled could determine their fate in the league.

UPDATE:

Put the stuff about the CFP being 25 teams only.

Edited October 16, 2018 by aztecskin

southsideguy · October 15, 2018

La TECH has an easy schedule for the rest of the season.

outoftown · October 15, 2018

14 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

La TECH has an easy schedule for the rest of the season.

Well I don't know. Playing FAU at their place is not something I would look forward to. Sure they are not quite what they were last year, but it sure didn't go well for NT the last two times.

aztecskin · October 15, 2018

UAB has the easier route imho. They have one big hurdle: NT, then they should beat the rest of the schedule if they play like they have been.

That said, they got beat by Coastal Carolina. The moment could be too much for them.

VideoEagle · October 15, 2018

45 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

La TECH has an easy schedule for the rest of the season.

Neither FAU nor Miss State are easy road games. Not impossible, but certainly not easy!

meaniegreenie · October 15, 2018

50 minutes ago, VideoEagle said:

Neither FAU nor Miss State are easy road games. Not impossible, but certainly not easy!

Miss State doesn't count.

strikes · October 15, 2018

Call me crazy, but I think UTEP takes the W over LA Tech. They are absolutely starving for a win. They gave us a run for our money.

aztecskin · October 15, 2018

6 minutes ago, meaniegreenie said:

Miss State doesn't count.

Well, in the scenario I laid out it could move them down the CFP which might give NT the boost to win that tiebreaker.

2 minutes ago, strikes said:

Call me crazy, but I think UTEP takes the W over LA Tech. They are absolutely starving for a win. They gave us a run for our money.

I said on this week's CUSAReport podcast that I think they upset someone. Could be.

MeanGreenTexan · October 15, 2018

15 minutes ago, strikes said:

Call me crazy, but I think UTEP takes the W over LA Tech. They are absolutely starving for a win. They gave us a run for our money.

I dunno if they can travel to Ruston & win (although they had a bye last week, so 2 weeks to prepare), but ... UAB at home the next weekend... that one may be one to watch. Especially if UNT can give them anything to see/exploit on film.

Mean Green Matt · October 15, 2018

None of us are going to have a CFP ranking. That tie breaker is irrelevant. We are doomed in a 3-way tie because we played in the title game last year.

VideoEagle · October 15, 2018

2 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

None of us are going to have a CFP ranking. That tie breaker is irrelevant. We are doomed in a 3-way tie because we played in the title game last year.

The CFP ranks almost every team if not actually every FBS team. CUSA wouldn't have included it in the tie breakers if the teams weren't likely to be ranked.

97and03 · October 15, 2018

8 minutes ago, VideoEagle said:

The CFP ranks almost every team if not actually every FBS team. CUSA wouldn't have included it in the tie breakers if the teams weren't likely to be ranked.

Does it? The BCS did but I can’t find any info past the top 25 about the CFP. I thought the same but now I am not so sure. Perhaps this tie breaker was a holdover from the BCS days and is now obsolete? Or they really meant that if a top 25 team was in the tie breaker than it would be best for the conference if that team were the champion.

MeanGreenDan · October 15, 2018

15 minutes ago, VideoEagle said:

The CFP ranks almost every team if not actually every FBS team. CUSA wouldn't have included it in the tie breakers if the teams weren't likely to be ranked.

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2016/10/11/_131504729686468000.aspx

Says CFP only ranks 25 teams.

Salsa_Verde · October 15, 2018

4 hours ago, strikes said:

Call me crazy, but I think UTEP takes the W over LA Tech. They are absolutely starving for a win. They gave us a run for our money.

I am also crazy. They’re going to win a game, I just don’t see them going winless two years in a row.

aztecskin · October 16, 2018

5 hours ago, MeanGreenDan said:

https://collegefootballplayoff.com/sports/2016/10/11/_131504729686468000.aspx

Says CFP only ranks 25 teams.

We discussed this on the podcast tonight. I think a 1-loss NT team gets the 25th spot in the CFP.

Beside that, I think the league just changed it over from the BCS, thinking it was going to be enough. For what it is worth, I think Tech loses one more game. This is still the de-facto division title game. UAB would need to drop two games against one of UTEP, UTSA, USM, or Middle and LA Tech would need to win out for the Bulldogs to win the west. Possible, but unlikely.

Mean Green Matt · October 16, 2018

The tiebreaker after CFP goes to the team that has the longest drought of playing in the conference championship game.

I do see your point that a theoretical 11-1 NT team might be able to sneak into the CFP rankings. If we can’t and La Tech does not lose again, we lose on the final tiebreak. Period.

meangreenlax · October 16, 2018

7 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

The tiebreaker after CFP goes to the team that has the longest drought of playing in the conference championship game.

What kind of Mickey Mouse bullshit is that? I’d rather lose on a coin toss

MeanGreenTexan · October 16, 2018

12 minutes ago, meangreenlax said:

What kind of Mickey Mouse bullshit is that? I’d rather lose on a coin toss

Right. That seems like the exact opposite of what a conference would want to do: set up a team for continued success so they can bouy your entire conference... a-la Boise/MWC. A high tide raises all ships.

southsideguy · October 16, 2018

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Right. That seems like the exact opposite of what a conference would want to do: set up a team for continued success so they can bouy your entire conference... a-la Boise/MWC. A high tide raises all ships.

everyone gets a trophy has made it to CUSA.

meaniegreenie · October 16, 2018

2 hours ago, meangreenlax said:

What kind of Mickey Mouse bullshit is that? I’d rather lose on a coin toss

Those kinds of rules have been around for decades.

meangreenlax · October 16, 2018

14 minutes ago, meaniegreenie said:

Those kinds of rules have been around for decades.

There are a million metrics and rankings out there, so to pick a team because they've sucked for longer is totally asinine. You could go down the list of offensive and defensive rankings, and it would be more fair than that rule.