❇️ Why Isn’t There A “Mean Joe Greene” National Award For Nation’s Best Def.Tackle?

PlummMeanGreen · October 10, 2018

This has been asked by many thru the years.

UNTLifer · October 10, 2018

I guess the Touchdown Club of Denton in conjunction with the University of North Texas could create and award this each year.

BigWillie · October 10, 2018

Defenses don't usually get much love unfortunately.

greenminer · October 10, 2018

Why hasn't Denton supported UNT?
Why did we drop to DII?
Why did we fail the AD survey at the end of RV's tenure?

Cerebus · October 10, 2018

We've never been DII

greenjoe · October 10, 2018

Other than being named the winner lf the _______ Award, what prize is given to the winner of the Heisman or the Maxwell, or the Biletnikoff ? Cash ? A car ?

DentonLurker · October 10, 2018

What came first? Mean Joe or the Mean Green egg?

greenminer · October 11, 2018

@Cerebus whoops! meant I-AA

UNTLifer · October 11, 2018

8 hours ago, BigWillie said:

Defenses don't usually get much love unfortunately.

Butkus Award and Jim Thorpe Award would like to talk to you.

BigWillie · October 11, 2018

14 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Butkus Award and Jim Thorpe Award would like to talk to you.

Yeah, I figured there were some. I just assumed there were more offensive awards than defensive. Of course the biggest individual award in college sports is an offense award (Heisman).

Edited October 11, 2018 by BigWillie

MeanGreenTexan · October 11, 2018

15 minutes ago, BigWillie said:

Yeah, I figured there were some. I just assumed there were more offensive awards than defensive. Of course the biggest individual award in college sports is an offense award (Heisman).

There have been defensive players capture the Heisman over the years.

MeanGreenTexan · October 11, 2018

15 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

Butkus Award and Jim Thorpe Award would like to talk to you.

As does the Nagurski, Bednarik, Hendricks, and occasionally, Outland.

Jason Howeth · October 11, 2018

On 10/10/2018 at 1:49 PM, PlummMeanGreen said:

This has been asked by many thru the years.

Might you say, "down the corridor of years?"

GrayEagle · October 11, 2018

18 hours ago, greenminer said:

@Cerebus whoops! meant I-AA

Back when Division I divided, one of the requirements was a 30,000 seat stadium. At the time Fouts Field had a capacity of 20,000. Chancellor Hurley was unwilling to spend the money to enlarge Fouts, instead electing to spend that money on improving academics.

As to your first question...if you go far enough back, Denton did do a much better job of supporting North Texas athletics than they do currently (at least percentage-wise). In the forties and fifties North Texas had 5-7,000 students and Denton had a population of 12-15,000. The old stadium, roughly where the mall and Willis Library now stand, held roughly 9-10,000. I attended several games where there was an overflow crowd, so several thousand of those had to come from Denton. Roads from Dallas and Fort Worth were two lanes and not well-traveled.

I can't truly tell you why the city failed to get behind its colleges. Their standard excuse seemed to be that we can't afford to support both and we can't offend one by supporting the other. I never did buy that.

UNTLifer · October 12, 2018

7 hours ago, BigWillie said:

Yeah, I figured there were some. I just assumed there were more offensive awards than defensive. Of course the biggest individual award in college sports is an offense award (Heisman).

The Heisman is not an offensive only award. It is given to the best player in college football which has evolved in to the best skill position player on a P5 team that is having a good year.

BigWillie · October 12, 2018

On 10/11/2018 at 1:30 PM, MeanGreenTexan said:

There have been defensive players capture the Heisman over the years.

Just happened to click on the one defensive name I recognized on the list and saw this.

To date, he is the only primarily defensive player to win the Heisman, and he is the most recent player to win the Heisman who was not either a running back or quarterback.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Woodson

Not saying it didn't happen and I know it isn't an offensive award, but it may as well be.

Edited October 12, 2018 by BigWillie