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Just because the “we’re gonna get our asses kicked by TxSt.” crowd was wrong doesn’t make it a moral victory.

PLEASE DON’T read this as an endorsement of Morris or defense of the current AD. But facts are facts. 2 Conference Championship appearances in 7 years in a weaker CUSA. The last appearance was with a 7-5 record. And had CUSA not abolished divisions we would have finished 2nd place to UTSA and not gotten the chance to get beaten by them again. Morris has just completed year 2 and he is dealing with transfer portal and NIL. So calling the team less competitive is a very subjective metric as you are applying it comparing Morris vs Littrell. Seth Littrell 2nd season was great. But there was no real improvement after that season and he finessed that into 2 contract extensions and the highest head coach salary in CUSA for a while. Those decisions were made by his predecessor. It is absolutely ridiculous that a thread titled “Seth Littrell” exists on a UNT forum when he is now an unemployed OC whose Oklahoma team performed better after he was fired.

I agree, but that’s not the way it’s presented here. EVERYTHING is the coaches fault according to many on this forum.

Smut lost by 27. They don't belong.

Yes, EM has very similar records to SL, but are we not in a better conference, playing better teams? The AAC was 6-2 in bowl games, C-USA was 1-4. This is an important aspect that is always overlooked in the EM vs SL argument. Also, SL didn’t have to deal with NIL or the portal (granted, it’s possible he would have handled it well, but I have my doubts). Finally, I just don’t feel like we get our asses handed to us near as much as with SL. I know there are those that say “a loss is a loss,” but I’d much rather lose by one score instead of three score. I looked up the numbers at one time, but the number of 21+ point losses under SL was just crazy. In the past two seasons we have 10 conference losses, and 6 of those have been one score games. Only twice have we been throttled in conference…last year vs SMU and this year vs UTSA. This year we lost to 3 of the top 4 teams in the conference (Army, Tulane, and Memphis). Last year we lost to the top 4 teams in the conference (SMU, Tulane, Memphis, and UTSA). That’s bad luck on scheduling to even have to play all of the top teams in the conference. None of this is meant as praise for EM. I’m just saying that I think it’s obviously better than SL. I’ll give the rest of the argument as I honestly don’t have a clue.