Attendance

[risinggreen]

Yes, we are a very good football team. Just hope we're reasonably healthy going forward.

[MattMakesLoans]

15 minutes ago, Side Show Joe said:

And because we lost all of these things, we have lost any chance of seeing another 30K+ crowd at Apogee this season.

 

That post was a bit melodramatic to come up with such a light "impact."  If we had won what game left on the schedule do you think would have hit 30k?

We all knew going into last night's game that it was going to be the highest attended game.  

[Side Show Joe]

3 minutes ago, MattMakesLoans said:

That post was a bit melodramatic to come up with such a light "impact."  If we had won what game left on the schedule do you think would have hit 30k?

We all knew going into last night's game that it was going to be the highest attended game.  

I don't view the loss of an undefeated season as a "light impact". North Texas has been playing football for over a 100 season, and we have never posted an undefeated season. The impact of this loss carries much weight.

Assuming we beat UTEP next week, we would have returned home to face Southern Miss with a 6-0 record. And remember, Wren has been very creative with the promotions. I absolutely believe that USM game would have had a real chance of selling out. But, none of that is in play now. That ship has sailed.

[emmitt01]

How I see a lot of our fans right now

 

[Mean Green Matt]

35 minutes ago, MattMakesLoans said:

That post was a bit melodramatic to come up with such a light "impact."  If we had won what game left on the schedule do you think would have hit 30k?

We all knew going into last night's game that it was going to be the highest attended game.  

Seriously? Every game except maybe the Thursday night against FAU would’ve had 30k if we were undefeated. 

[EagleMBA]

As for me, "What...ME worry?". I will be in my seat for every game. I support the First Amendment and everyone's right to express their opinion regarding attendance. Having said that, I will donate the following avatar to those who think their presence brings bad things to the program. Feel free to adopt it and perhaps consider being one of the dropouts.

[drex]

I spent a lot of time in the art studio and am a season ticket holder for football and basketball.. might want to not paint with such a wide brush next time you evaluate the 'average student.'  This game was a setback but not  irrepairable.  Most enjoyed the game, but were just let down by the outcome.  50%of the teams who took the field yesterday lost.  Going undefeated is a near impossibility, so we just reload and beat UTEP.

[largekfcbucket]

7 hours ago, Side Show Joe said:

No, it is an acknowledgment of of the truth.

Yes, we will still win games and go bowling. And, those of us that post here on the board will be there in two weeks when we play Southern Miss, and yes, the students will continue to show up in large numbers, but that isn't enough. There was a large number of attendees that are not students and are not regulars at games. A good amount of those will not be back. You can believe they will, but you will be proven wrong in two weeks. We were up 21-6 in the first quarter and on our way to a blow out win, and we blew it. There are consequences for that.

 

Last night we lost more then just an ordinary game....

We lost at least one player for the season.

We lost our undefeated season.

We lost our ability to control our destiny in C-USA.

We lost all of our votes in the Coaches and AP rankings.

We lost our positive coverage from ESPN and other national sports media.

We lost our positive coverage in the DFW media.

And because we lost all of these things, we have lost any chance of seeing another 30K+ crowd at Apogee this season.

 

 

Pardon me if I sound cross, but this one of the most ludicrous things I've ever read. "Not good enough"? Dude, we're not three calendar years removed from Portland State. We just damn near sold out Apogee twice in a month, we're about to be 5-1 after we annihilate UTEP this weekend. 10,000 people are not just going to up and abandon interest because we lost one game. 

Did parents weekend help? Yes, certainly. We also were able to sit 29,000 people for, albeit, a season opener, after back to back ass whoopings in December of last year. 

- Injuries happen. Had we hit that FG to win the game, Loren or Mason are still out regardless. 

- We were never going to go undefeated to begin with, and thinking that we would after winning 4 games is nonsensical. 

- It's week 1. LA tech is not going to win out, most likely. We can talk about "controlling destiny" in a few weeks.

- You don't deserve to be ranked if you lose that game.

- No we didn't. 

- Again, no we didn't. 

- We still have homecoming and a rematch with FAU awaiting us. 

Look, I apologize if I sound cross or rude here. I'm not trying to talk down to anybody. I am, however, very annoyed at the apocalyptic response from people over losing one game. This team, if we stay healthy and learn from our mistakes, should very well finish 9-3 or 10-2 in the regular season. I'm sorry if that's not good enough for some people, but 12-0 seasons don't just happen. It's next to impossible. 

I'll even go as far as to say, if we beat UAB, we will sell out for homecoming. 

I'll be in my seat every game and I hope you will too. 

[Salsa_Verde]

I guess some think because of this loss, that the party is over? It’s just one loss, the program is in an upward trajectory overall. North Texas is way ahead of schedule at 4-1 and there are plenty of conference games to yet be played. 

GMG 

Edited October 1, 2018 by Salsa_Verde

[meangreen2016]

Here's a small positive: I plan on bringing a group of my friends to either the next home game,  the FAU game on Thursday night, or both. So there's about 6 or 7 more people to add. We'll be loud and proud. People noticed the heart and passion the players put into this game, and there was real support from the fans. There's no way attendance will drop by 10,000. Couple thousand? Maybe. I also think it depends on how well the game is marketed and if we as fans encourage/invite others. 

Let's take it upon ourselves as fans to do something about it, even if you just invite a couple of extra friends. Sounds sappy and feel good, I know. 

[meangreenJW]

10 hours ago, Mean Green Matt said:

Seriously? Every game except maybe the Thursday night against FAU would’ve had 30k if we were undefeated. 

I seriously don’t believe that. We’ve had 1 crowd of 30k plus in over 100 years. Our Incarnate Word crowd was less than 20k after drilling smu. Being undefeated would have improved the crowd (maybe from 22k to 26k or 28k). I’ve been watching North Texas football for almost 4 decades. Lots of ups and downs but we wouldn’t have had 30k plus again this year. I want to believe we would’ve but I don’t. 

[UNTLifer]

On 9/30/2018 at 1:15 AM, NorthTexasWeLove said:

Have you had a conversation with your normal run of the mill UNT student in the last year or two? I have. And I can say, from my very small sample size, they aren't the biggest fans of football. Like, they will never be die hard dudes or donors. Haven't ran into any, actually. So, losing will push them back into the art studio or scarf weaving seminar. 

After talking to you I would prefer scarf weaving. 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

2 hours ago, UNTLifer said:

After talking to you I would prefer scarf weaving. 

I'm pretty sure you would. My testosterone might set you back. 

[Silent Eagle]

All you gloom and doom types are the same cats who get a headache and automatically assume brain cancer. 

 

[DentonLurker]

24 minutes ago, Silent Eagle said:

All you gloom and doom types are the same cats who get a headache and automatically assume brain cancer. 

 

But WebMD said...

[Mean Green Matt]

5 hours ago, meangreenJW said:

I seriously don’t believe that. We’ve had 1 crowd of 30k plus in over 100 years. Our Incarnate Word crowd was less than 20k after drilling smu. Being undefeated would have improved the crowd (maybe from 22k to 26k or 28k). I’ve been watching North Texas football for almost 4 decades. Lots of ups and downs but we wouldn’t have had 30k plus again this year. I want to believe we would’ve but I don’t. 

We haven’t been undefeated this late in the season with a home game in almost 60 years. This would not have been anything remotely resembling NT football history. If we can somehow roll into homecoming 7-1 we may get close to 30k despite the loss. 

[NT93]

Keep in mind that LaTech had a good following.  We probably wouldn't have hit 30K if they hadn't brought such a large crowd.

[dodgefan]

On 9/30/2018 at 12:15 AM, NTXAlum2016 said:

 Do you guys just sit at home and jerk off to pictures of apogee with fans in the stands? They played their asses off and it was a great event to attend. I guarantee nobody left and said to themselves that this is the same old UNT losing football games. We’re 4-1 and any person who thinks this is classic UNT football is an idiot. 

I know the answer to this question. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

I'm with @Side Show Joe on this one.

None of it means the sky is falling, or NT can't still do great things...   but a few days ago we were all talking about "Sellouts", and the "undefeated" word was being used often.

The loss on Saturday changed that.  Sadly.  
Does it mean we wont have big crowds?  No.  We can still have pretty big crowds.
Does it mean we can't finish out the year 13-1?  No.  We still have opportunities to make that happen (we'll need some help from our conference mates to make the 13 part happen though).
Does it mean we've forgotten about the past?  Heck no. I know I haven't... but aren't some of you the same ones who keep saying not to measure against a crappy past and to raise standards/raise the bar?  If so, Stop. Bringing. Up. Portland. State.
Time to soar higher.

[meangreenlax]

11 hours ago, largekfcbucket said:

This team, if we stay healthy and learn from our mistakes, should very well finish 9-3 or 10-2 in the regular season. I'm sorry if that's not good enough for some people, but 12-0 seasons don't just happen. It's next to impossible. 

I think a lot of people got a taste of what big time CFB is like, and it tasted delicious. 

[Pavlovs Eagle]

2 minutes ago, meangreenlax said:

I think a lot of people got a taste of what big time CFB is like, and it tasted delicious. 

So refreshing! 

[RBP79]

I don't think most fans who are rational  and live in this universe ever truly believed we were going to be undefeated this year. I also never believed we would sell out every game if we continued undefeated. What I think most are trying to point out regardless of a 2 point loss is ALL THE HYPE that was placed on this game (unveiling statues...breaking ground on IPF....national recognition etc..) WAS a lost opportunity. But with that said I give Wren and others thumbs up.........

" No guts no glory"

 

 

[KRAM1]

Patience, grasshopper, patience. Attendance and season ticket holders are both growing. Some games will have more or less fans than the last, but, overall, the trend is very positive.

[UNTcrazy727]

The doom and gloom in this thread is laughable. This loss will only affect attendance for the USM game. And even then I bet we have around 23K. If we're 7-1 going into HC we'll have 29K-30K again. 

[UNTFan23]

10 minutes ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

The doom and gloom in this thread is laughable. This loss will only affect attendance for the USM game. And even then I bet we have around 23K. If we're 7-1 going into HC we'll have 29K-30K again. 

I think weather could affect attendance more than a 2 point loss to the Bulldogs.