Seth Littrell Rumors Mega Thread

[Wag Tag]

A big reason Seth could be attracted to TT is it will already have players to fit his system. Is the Seth scheme that much better than Kings? TT always seems to have a top 40-50 recruiting class can Seth recruit better? In other words is there actually a ceiling at TT it will never break through? Also King will have an OC job in a heartbeat or maybe a G5 head coaching job. It is not like he sucks! If he is let go for SETH I wouldn't mind UNT looking at him! GMG

 

[greenminer]

Just something to chew on: if the 2019 follows through and signs, we - including Seth - can take it as hard evidence that Denton can get over the hump and be even bigger than some of our B12 Texas football mates.

If football becomes bigger in Denton-DFW, it would be even harder to consider leaving for Lubbock.

[TheColonyEagle]

9 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Just something to chew on: if the 2019 follows through and signs, we - including Seth - can take it as hard evidence that Denton can get over the hump and be even bigger than some of our B12 Texas football mates.

If football becomes bigger in Denton-DFW, it would be even harder to consider leaving for Lubbock.

I agree with this.

If people quit thinking backwards......and start looking forwards....your point is spot on.

On a football program scale of 1-100, we're at 19 right now, up from years at 7

 

[NorthTexasWeLove]

12 minutes ago, greenminer said:

Just something to chew on: if the 2019 follows through and signs, we - including Seth - can take it as hard evidence that Denton can get over the hump and be even bigger than some of our B12 Texas football mates.

If football becomes bigger in Denton-DFW, it would be even harder to consider leaving for Lubbock.

If this class stays intact + this season playing out like many thinks it will + the probable 2020 class being great + the results of the 2019 season being really good + the probability of having a good 2021 recruiting class = Boise State 2.0 in the making. 

If things pan out this way, and we keep rattling cages, I'm not sure how we will be overlooked in the next alignment especially considering our location and enrollment + alum size. With the improvements of our education and admission standards, something special is cooking in Little D. 

[HoustonEagle]

We are only going to talk ourselves in circles until our heads hurt.  As fans the only things we can control that might make any difference is to donate money and show up.  Higher pay and a full stadium will give a coach something to think about.  Other than that don't worry about what you can't control.  If Seth leaves he will leave things better than he found them and this will be a very desired job among other up and coming coaches.  

[Cerebus]

1 minute ago, HoustonEagle said:

We are only going to talk ourselves in circles until our heads hurt. 

What else do we do here?

[97and03]

28 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

What else do we do here?

Try to jinx everything we can apparently.

[Salsa_Verde]

12 hours ago, PlummMeanGreen said:

Was Arkansas a good fit for Chad Morris?  🙂

GMG!

True...true. 😅

[Cr1028]

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Now, in the never-ending game of coaching musical chairs, the 51-year-old is invariably mentioned when a position opens up at an elite program, such as Ohio State this past summer. And, say many college football insiders, Patterson surely must be tempted to move to a school with a huge fan base, multimillion-dollar television contracts, and giant marketing and recruiting budgets. This year, despite its Rose Bowl victory, TCU will again be featured only twice on ESPN and not at all on the major broadcast networks. Even in Texas, which is dominated by Longhorns, Aggies, and Red Raiders, TCU still has trouble getting attention. As spring practice was in full gear, for instance, the state’s biggest story had nothing to do with Patterson and the Frogs. It was whether Mack Brown and the University of Texas could return to prominence after a disastrous 2010 season.

But Patterson insists he’s staying in Fort Worth. He has helped lead a $143 million fund-raising campaign to renovate the university’s creaky 81-year-old stadium into a 43,000-seat state-of-the-art showplace, and he’s also successfully pushed for the school to join the Big East Conference, which is part of the BCS, in 2012. That move will bring the program one step closer to a chance to play for a national championship, something it hasn’t done since the mid-thirties, when Sammy Baugh and Davey O’Brien were the stars of the team. “I’m here to win it all,” Patterson says. “And as hard as that might be for some people to believe, I’m telling you it can happen.”

Link

http://www.kten.com/story/11609145/tcus-gary-patterson-staying-in-fort-worth

It is not outside of all possiblity that Seth would want to stay here and build this thing up in a similar fashion. Patterson showed you can build a G5 program in DFW to prominence if you do it the right way. I know former SWC but nobody these days thinks about that anymore.

Edited September 18, 2018 by Cr1028

[Cerebus]

55 minutes ago, Cr1028 said:

Patterson showed you can build a G5 program in DFW to prominence if you do it the right way. 

Patterson moved from a lower end G5 conference, to a highly rated G5 conference, to a P5 conference.

He was just lucky enough to do it at one school.

 

The credit for Patterson staying goes to his admin,  he didn't turn down jobs further up the ladder, his admin moved the entire damn school further up the ladder.  If only we had been able to do that we could be where they are now.  

[NorthTexan95]

We need to get Seth and Patterson together for a talk about coaching and family.  

[TIgreen01]

19 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

The credit for Patterson staying goes to his admin,  he didn't turn down jobs further up the ladder, his admin moved the entire damn school further up the ladder.  If only we had been able to do that we could be where they are now.  

Well, you gotta start sometime.  Why not now?

Edited September 18, 2018 by TIgreen01

[MeanGreenTexan]

5 minutes ago, Cerebus said:

Patterson moved from a lower end G5 conference, to a highly rated G5 conference, to a P5 conference.

He was just lucky enough to do it at one school.

 

The credit for Patterson staying goes to his admin,  he didn't turn down jobs further up the ladder, his admin moved the entire damn school further up the ladder.  If only we had been able to do that we could be where they are now.  

And as much as it is downplayed here, I think their name recognition just from being in the old SWC was helpful in that journey.   Let alone their plethora of deep-pocket donors.  Remember, the folks running the show in the Big12 are older folks who recall those days.  Each weekend, they were playing against Texas, A&M, Tech, Houston, etc... while we were toiling away in D1-AA.

It's going to be a longer/tougher row to hoe for us, but ideally we would be able to join in on a conference with the Big12 leftovers and some AAC teams like Houston/SMU when the dustup coming in 2025 happens.

[Green P1]

Do y’all think maybe Seth could become our Gary Patterson?

[untjim1995]

1 minute ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

And as much as it is downplayed here, I think their name recognition just from being in the old SWC was helpful in that journey.   Let alone their plethora of deep-pocket donors.  Remember, the folks running the show in the Big12 are older folks who recall those days.  Each weekend, they were playing against Texas, A&M, Tech, Houston, etc... while we were toiling away in D1-AA.

It's going to be a longer/tougher row to hoe for us, but ideally we would be able to join in on a conference with the Big12 leftovers and some AAC teams like Houston/SMU when the dustup coming in 2025 happens.

I think that the best possible scenario for us is that the Big XII does fall apart, which is highly probable at this point, followed by a realization that G5s need to get regionally set in conferences that make it easy for fans to travel. The MAC and the MWC both have this. Its time for the rest of us to figure it out too. 

UNT, TCU, SMU, Baylor, UTSA, Texas State,  and UTEP in the West

UH, Rice, La Tech, Tulane, Tulsa, Arkansas State, and Louisiana. in the East.

[MeanGreenTexan]

5 minutes ago, Green P1 said:

Do y’all think maybe Seth could become our Gary Patterson?

[Green P1]

Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

I’ll hang up and listen. 

[Grant.UNT]

12 minutes ago, Green P1 said:

Do y’all think maybe Seth could become our Gary Patterson?

This would be the best thing that ever happened to UNT athletics.

[Stan R]

Do y’all think maybe Seth could become our Gary Patterson?

 

Step 1: Triple his salary by any means necessary

Step 2: Were you able to accomplish step 1?  No?? Go back to step one.

Step 3: Double isn't enough, beg and grovel to all your best donors.  2.5X salary won't cut it guys, repeat steps 1-3. 

Edited September 18, 2018 by Stan R

[Cerebus]

19 minutes ago, Green P1 said:

Do y’all think maybe Seth could become our Gary Patterson?

Sure.  If NS/WB can get us into the AAC and then the B12 before he gets hired away. 

[mhuddleston88]

I think as students and alumni, we should be focusing on the magic of what is going on right now and not worrying about what may or may not happen in January or February. However, I would like to see coach stay here and follow in the Gary Patterson way. Build from nothing, and rest easy in your dynasty. Texas will always be Texas, but if the administration at UNT had the foresight and willingness (and they have not shown that they do not), they would realize that the recruiting market is in a unique position. Right now you have TCU, TAMU, Oklahoma, and Texas (still) that are demanding the majority of recruits. There is a market for the good 3-star and lower 4-star players to find a home. They used to occupy Baylor, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, but now those programs are sliding down. So if UNT can keep Seth Littrel around, the opportunity to build a consistent winner, and move to a power 5, is a real thing. Recruits chase hot coaches and hot programs. We have both right now. 

[MeanGreenTexan]

6 minutes ago, untjim1995 said:

I think that the best possible scenario for us is that the Big XII does fall apart, which is highly probable at this point, followed by a realization that G5s need to get regionally set in conferences that make it easy for fans to travel. The MAC and the MWC both have this. Its time for the rest of us to figure it out too. 

UNT, TCU, SMU, Baylor, UTSA, Texas State,  and UTEP in the West

UH, Rice, La Tech, Tulane, Tulsa, Arkansas State, and Louisiana. in the East.

More like:
South: UNT, TCU, SMU, Baylor, Texas Tech, Houston
North: Kansas St., Iowa St., Tulsa, Memphis, Cincinnati, WVU

[Cerebus]

Just now, MeanGreenTexan said:

More like:
South: UNT, TCU, SMU, Baylor, Texas Tech, Houston
North: Kansas St., Iowa St., Tulsa, Memphis, Cincinnati, WVU

That would get better than current AAC level TV money, but a lot less than current B12 TV money.   No real access to the CFP unless it expanded.  

An improvement, for sure.  A conference that would have us selling out Apogee when we were good.  

[Green P1]

Do y’all think the fact that Seth is so far and away much more physically attractive than Gary might have any bearing on the situation?

 

its almost apples to oranges. 

[MGNation92]

I wish Littrell would become our Chris Peterson. I don't expect him to be here forever, but build the culture and recruiting to a point where it's damn near impossible to fail when he leaves. 

Boise St is a perennial G5 powerhouse and while it started with Dirk Koetter and Dan Hawkins, Peterson put them on the map. 

 

Edited September 18, 2018 by MGNation92