How Many Yards for Mason Fine?

[AustinFromUNT]

What do you think Mason’s production will be like this year?

[UNTLifer]

[greenminer]

[greenminer]

How incredible would it be to see a RB emerge with a 1500-2000/season, and Fine doesn't have to do as much?

[AustinFromUNT]

  On 7/16/2018 at 3:10 PM, greenminer said:

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Ahh a Quinn Shanbour truther I see. ( I mean that jokingly, I actually do like Quinn)

[AustinFromUNT]

  On 7/16/2018 at 3:11 PM, greenminer said:

How incredible would it be to see a RB emerge with a 1500-2000/season, and Fine doesn't have to do as much?

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I think we’re going the opposite direction this year. Not because Smith is a worse back than Jeff, but because I think we’ll see more passes to our RBs.

[AustinFromUNT]

  On 7/16/2018 at 3:13 PM, Prettylittleeagle said:

Another question, how many yards puts Fine in the discussion for the Heisman?

Could a "lowly G5" ever have their QB mentioned in such conversation? 

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Imo, he would have to pass for more than 5000 yards with at least 35 TDs & at minimum a 3.5:1 TD:INT ratio.

[greenminer]

  On 7/16/2018 at 3:13 PM, Prettylittleeagle said:

Another question, how many yards puts Fine in the discussion for the Heisman?

Could a "lowly G5" ever have their QB mentioned in such conversation? 

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5K yards?

[AustinFromUNT]

  On 7/16/2018 at 3:15 PM, greenminer said:

5K yards?

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For what it’s worth, McKenzie Milton (UCF’s QB) finished 8th in Heisman voting last year. He threw for 4037 yards on 10.2 yards per attempt. He also had 37 TDs and 9 INTs. Not to mention, UCF was undefeated last year (NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!)

[El Paso Eagle]

I would hope it's around 300 per game with the RB's putting up big yards. Would also like to see the backup put in if we are in a comfortable situation or the opposite.  

[oldguystudent]

  On 7/16/2018 at 3:13 PM, Prettylittleeagle said:

Another question, how many yards puts Fine in the discussion for the Heisman?

Could a "lowly G5" ever have their QB mentioned in such conversation? 

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I seem to recall that the QB for that 2007 Hawaii team that went to get its ass handed to it in the Sugar Bowl was a Heisman finalist.  

Of course, that was over ten years ago, and the P5/G5 chasm wasn't quite as blatantly wide as it is today. 

[Salsa_Verde]

Colt Brennan was the guy I think. I remember Hawaii had a string of quarterbacks that did really well in the system, Timmy Chang was the other I believe. Going back to Mason Fine, if he can pull of a signature performance against a P5 school....it will go a long way, he’s going to have the stats but it’s the level of competition that will put him at a disadvantage to be talked about in those terms. If anyone could pull that off, it’s Mason Fine. 

[UNT Mean Green]

>4,500 yards. Our receiving core is almost impossible to cover. This year and next years offenses will resemble what Harrell’s teams looked like in Lubbock.

[DeepGreen]

We’re going to miss Jeff “the jet” Wilson this year.

[MGNation92]

  On 7/17/2018 at 12:39 PM, UNT Mean Green said:

>4,500 yards. Our receiving core is almost impossible to cover. This year and next years offenses will resemble what Harrell’s teams looked like in Lubbock.

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Let's just hope the defense does enough to not make it a 65-64 shootout every game

[RBP79]

I say +4500 until defense shows up every game and we see how J Wilson replacement performs.

[Venson]

4500 plus if the offensive line holds up and the backs can protect at least as good as Wilson. That being said, it could be a lot less now that Wilson is not around to take some of the pressure off by running the football.

[Withers940]

If he lands anywhere between what he did last year and 4,500, We'd be...............

[EagleMBA]

  On 7/17/2018 at 9:21 PM, Withers940 said:

If he lands anywhere between what he did last year and 4,500, We'd be...............

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Or pigs in slop...

[Mean Green 93-98]

  On 7/17/2018 at 7:52 PM, Venson said:

. . . and the backs can protect at least as good as Wilson. 

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Let's go ahead and acknowledge that there is no way the backs will pass protect anywhere near as well as Wilson did last year.

[TheColonyEagle]

  On 7/17/2018 at 12:39 PM, UNT Mean Green said:

>4,500 yards. Our receiving core is almost impossible to cover. This year and next years offenses will resemble what Harrell’s teams looked like in Lubbock.

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That’s an interesting comparison. Harrell threw for 4555 yards his Soph year. 

5705 his Jr year

5111 his Sr year 

He went 8-5 his sophomore year

9-4 his Jr year

11-2 his Sr year 

I’ll take the increase in wins from Mason’s Soph year to his Sr year  

 

[Felozano]

  On 7/17/2018 at 10:52 PM, Mean Green 93-98 said:

Let's go ahead and acknowledge that there is no way the backs will pass protect anywhere near as well as Wilson did last year.

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Wilson was a great pass blocker, but our line should better, Fine should be able to get the ball out quicker, and our receivers are legit!  Here's to hoping our strengths overshadow our weaknesses....also, let's give these running backs a chance before we decide they won't be able to block.

[greenminer]

  On 7/18/2018 at 12:28 AM, Felozano said:

Wilson was a great pass blocker, but our line should better, 

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Unless we put an OL guy at the RB position, this logic is not convincing to me.
 

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....also, let's give these running backs a chance before we decide they won't be able to block.

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agree

[Mean Green 93-98]

  On 7/18/2018 at 12:28 AM, Felozano said:

. . . before we decide they won't be able to block.

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I don't know who decided that, unless you did.  But to expect any of them to pass block at the level of senior-year Jeffery Wilson is simply unrealistic.  It's like expecting whoever our kicker is to kick with the same consistency as senior-year Trevor Moore.

[GrayEagle]

Also remember that Fine was on a somewhat limited playbook last year.  Harrell plans to give him more weapons this year.  

I believe that the running backs are good enough that any defense can't ignore them and concentrate heavily on the pass.  I also believe that the offensive line will be better than last year.  Lastly, I believe that the schedule is slightly easier than last year.  Looks greater than 4500 yards to me.