Hundreds gather at the Denton County Courthouse to protest Trump administration’s immigration policy

[GTWT]

On ‎7‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 2:57 PM, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

No, she didn't. It is very easy to validate, but I suppose it is easier to post some crappy meme since it fits the agenda. 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/people-like-donald-trump/

Ain't it funny how the same folks who decry 'fake news' the loudest promote it?

Edited July 10, 2018 by GTWT

[FirefightnRick]

7 hours ago, GTWT said:

Ain't it funny how the same folks who decry 'fake news' the loudest promote it?

I'm sorry you have no sense of humor.  I could care less myself but since the woman isn't in jail...yet,...all we're left with is humor.  At least for me that is.

 

Rick

[Censored by Laurie]

if nothing else, the easing in the absolute "pro-life" stance being taken here by many once staunch supporters is encouraging. 

[FirefightnRick]

What could have been...

 

Rick

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

Like Trump cares about credentials and qualifications...? 

Such a funny comic! 

[FirefightnRick]

3 hours ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

 

Such a funny comic! 

I keep having to remind myself that Trump isn't a politician.  He's really neither a republican or democrat or lib or conservative.  He's a pragmatist.  He fixes things best he sees fit.  I don't always agree with him.  But man he drives the left crazy and has given the comics some of their greatest material in years.

 

Rick

[GTWT]

14 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

What could have been...

 

Rick

There's another one, Rick.  Most of the people promoting the idea that President Obama was not born in Hawaii knew damn good and well that this was 'Fake News'.  I suspect you knew it.

Edited July 11, 2018 by GTWT

[LongJim]

This could be solved if Congress would do their job and come up with 'acceptable, compassionate legislation'.  But they do not want to do this because it would inflame their voter base, and they would rather the Executive branch have to "DO SOMETHING" so he can take the brunt of the outrage and twist in the wind.  Our Congress as it stands--and has stood for years--is utterly worthless. 

Edited July 11, 2018 by LongJim

[FirefightnRick]

Completely agree LongJim.

 

Rick

[FirefightnRick]

3 hours ago, GTWT said:

There's another one, Rick.  Most of the people promoting the idea that President Obama was not born in Hawaii knew damn good and well that this was 'Fake News'.  I suspect you knew it.

True.  I think there wouldn't have been any questions raised about it to begin with had there not been a delay to release something that resembles an original copy.

Rick

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

1 hour ago, FirefightnRick said:

True.  I think there wouldn't have been any questions raised about it to begin with had there not been a delay to release something that resembles an original copy.

Rick

And I think that the President having to disprove some wild ass conspiracy with some 'long form' certificate is really beneath his pay grade. 

He provided "short form" proof. The hospital validated it. The Hawaii Governor validated. 6/2008

He provided "long form" just to really try to put it to bed in 2011. 

Yet the conspiracy talk continued. Regardless. 

Even in 2014, Trump was still going on about his country of birth:

Inviting 'hackers' to try to validate this wild ass conspiracy... !

Now you blame *his* delay in providing proof. Amazing lack of honesty. 

Where is Ivanka's proof that she was here legally in the 90's and she had a legal work visa@!?!? Where is Trump's proof that he actually graduated from Wharton?!? huh? Where are his W-2s?! ZOMG Panic. 

If only he wouldn't delay and re-neg on his promises to release his tax returns.. 

Edited July 11, 2018 by SteaminWillieBeamin

[GTWT]

1 hour ago, FirefightnRick said:

True.  I think there wouldn't have been any questions raised about it to begin with had there not been a delay to release something that resembles an original copy.

Rick

Kinda like Trump delaying release of his tax returns leads to all kinds of speculation about whether he ever paid any taxes.

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

2 minutes ago, GTWT said:

Kinda like Trump delaying release of his tax returns leads to all kinds of speculation about whether he ever paid any taxes.

Oh no no, you got it wrong. He is SMART in exploiting loopholes and not paying taxes.

[GTWT]

5 minutes ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

Oh no no, you got it wrong. He is SMART in exploiting loopholes and not paying taxes.

Yes.  A brilliant man.

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

46 minutes ago, GTWT said:

Yes.  A brilliant man.

He has the best words and one of the best brains of any president. Highest IQ. 

Like when his uncle (John) told him about "nuclear" and Trump knew it was going to be something one day.  Amazing brain to know that something we developed and used before his birth was going to be something one day.. 
 

[EagleMBA]

He is smart to legally avoid all taxes possible, while evading none. His return is too complicated for using TurboTax at home, so he is smart to hire expert advice and leave it to them.

No American taxpayer is honor-bound to pay one cent more than he legally owes.

[GTWT]

1 hour ago, EagleMBA said:

He is smart to legally avoid all taxes possible, while evading none. His return is too complicated for using TurboTax at home, so he is smart to hire expert advice and leave it to them.

No American taxpayer is honor-bound to pay one cent more than he legally owes.

No.  However, it would appear a bit more up-and-up if he would release his returns as most other candidates have done.  The way it is it looks like the man is trying to hide something.

[southsideguy]

i find it funny the left is going to protest Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court, no  matter it who it is.  I love they are so opened minded.   I really think the USA should break into to countries.  The divide in politics has become so big I think we may see the next civil war soon.  The states could vote to be socialist state or a republic. Kinda like new coke vs old coke. Then California and New York can have their own laws on immigration and other laws they seem to ignore.  Then we could all be happy again.  The illegals would have a safe place to go and live in the friendly socialist states.   But I now see Canada wants us toe force our borders better so people stop showing up in Canada so maybe socialist states might change their tune.  

I watch Drug Wars on focus TV sometimes and it is interesting that some of the kids they pick up don't belong to any of the adults in the group.  First the conversation they are the children of the group, then it is a relatives child they taking to the USA and then it is a friend's children.  They are using the children as pawn to enter the country.  

I saw a documentary on the same channel and it was about an illegal alien family and they had it all thought out, anchor babies, bringing it relatives, they knew the immigrations law very well.  The are not dumb and know who to use the system.  Once the anchor baby arrives the government benefits start.

One other concern I have for the people of North Texas is effect of the rapid growth on our natural resources.  I kayak the area lakes and I can tell you lakes are getting low, so much so that some boat ramps are closing down.   We go into a drought and with the increased demand on our water supplies and we will all be in trouble.  The illegals do cost the tax payers a bundle of money but can also put more strain on our natural resources.  We run out of water , we are out of water and spiral downward will follow..  

[FirefightnRick]

6 hours ago, SteaminWillieBeamin said:

And I think that the President having to disprove some wild ass conspiracy with some 'long form' certificate is really beneath his pay grade. 

He provided "short form" proof. The hospital validated it. The Hawaii Governor validated. 6/2008

He provided "long form" just to really try to put it to bed in 2011. 

Yet the conspiracy talk continued. Regardless. 

Even in 2014, Trump was still going on about his country of birth:

Inviting 'hackers' to try to validate this wild ass conspiracy... !

Now you blame *his* delay in providing proof. Amazing lack of honesty. 

Where is Ivanka's proof that she was here legally in the 90's and she had a legal work visa@!?!? Where is Trump's proof that he actually graduated from Wharton?!? huh? Where are his W-2s?! ZOMG Panic. 

If only he wouldn't delay and re-neg on his promises to release his tax returns.. 

I think most reasonable people realized the hacker bit was tongue-in-cheek Trump mocking of the left?

Obama didn't provide anything for three years.  That's a lot of time for conspiracy theories.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter and isn't president but was born in New York.  I think your thinking of Malania?    Milania was born in Yugoslavia, moved to New York in the 90's and eventually became a U.S. Citizen in '01, assuming after the proper channels were followed. Still, she isn't the president either.

Rick

Edited July 11, 2018 by FirefightnRick

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

3 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

I think most reasonable people realized the hacker bit was tongue-in-cheek Trump mocking of the left?

Obama didn't provide anything for three years.  That's a lot of time for conspiracy theories.

Ivanka is Trump's daughter and isn't president but was born in New York.  I think your thinking of Malania?    Milania was born in Yugoslavia, moved to New York in the 90's and eventually became a U.S. Citizen in '01, assuming after the proper channels were followed. Still, she isn't the president either.

Rick

Good catch, I missed my proof reading on a cell phone. I did mean Melania, the first lady. I don't know who Malania is though.. I was definitely NOT talking about her. I am talking about the one who lied on her first lady bio about graduating from Slovenia University with a design degree, but then changed it to read she paused her studies.  I am talking about the Yugoslavian resident who was living in the US permanently on a tourist visa and taking modeling jobs illegally. Illegally working here and stealing jobs from Americans should have voided her legal path to citizenship. She has not shown any documentation to prove otherwise... But really, should she have to? It's absurd, no?

Much like you saying he didn't provided ANYTHING for three years -- when he clearly and factually provided his short form birth certificate BEFORE he was elected. Which, by the way, proof of live birth forms are completely legal proof of birth and citizenship. That's how I got my passport and my two sons. So, you should re-check your honesty about this and stop blaming Obama for looney conspiracies based on his middle name, nationality of his father and his blackness.

 

 

[Censored by Laurie]

5 hours ago, southsideguy said:

I really think the USA should break into to countries.   

but also respect the flag and support our troops, right?

I would love to see these borders...

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

5 hours ago, southsideguy said:

One other concern I have for the people of North Texas is effect of the rapid growth on our natural resources.  I kayak the area lakes and I can tell you lakes are getting low, so much so that some boat ramps are closing down.   We go into a drought and with the increased demand on our water supplies and we will all be in trouble.  The illegals do cost the tax payers a bundle of money but can also put more strain on our natural resources.  We run out of water , we are out of water and spiral downward will follow..  

You are high as a kite. Illegals pay more in taxes than they get out. They go to the neighborhood schools, where they live, where they pay rent that pays taxes that pays for their schools. They use fake social security numbers to work in kitchens that gets federal taxes and social security pulled out -- which they never get a refund OR get to use the social security benefits. When they lose their jobs, they don't get to file unemployment. They do NOT get free healthcare or food stamps. 

Just read about it: https://www.vox.com/2018/4/13/17229018/undocumented-immigrants-pay-taxes 

"The best estimates come from research by the Institute of Taxation and Economic Policy, a Washington, DC, think tank, which suggests that about half of undocumented workers in the United States file income tax returns. The most recent IRS data, from 2015, shows that the agency received 4.4 million income tax returns from workers who don’t have Social Security numbers, which includes a large number of undocumented immigrants. That year, they paid $23.6 billion in income taxes."

It is a well known statistic. 

Being concerned about something you care about is no reason to just make up worries and blame some population.

The reason the reservoirs are low is because we never build any new ones to keep up with the size of the metroplex. It is that simple. It is hard to get the public opinion on the side of common sense that allows us to build large public infrastructure projects. Instead, we over build, over destroy plant life for tract housing, create runoff that leads to flooding and there is NO space in the reservoirs to hold the excess run off.. We could save that water and use it over time. Instead, we just keep draining Lake Lewisville to water our green lawns... and for you to blame Mexicans.

You clearly don't understand the sacrifices that families make to send their children across the earth to try and find a better, non-violent life. You think people are used as pawns to make minimum wage here in South Dallas.. living in barely above poverty levels.. in pretty terrible school districts. Yes, that is living a true dream. They are stealing that life from Americans. 

 

 

 

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

2 minutes ago, Censored by Laurie said:

but also respect the flag and support our troops, right?

I would love to see these borders...

You gets the liberal, rich educated states and then the rest - with a Texas thrown in only because the educated rich large cities keep its economy chugging along. It would be great. The coasts versus the flyovers. I am sure that would be a winning combination. 

https://wallethub.com/edu/states-most-least-dependent-on-the-federal-government/2700/#red-vs-blue

 

 

[SteaminWillieBeamin]

5 hours ago, southsideguy said:

Once the anchor baby arrives the government benefits start.

Your tone really angers me. Seriously. That is a child, not an anchor. It takes a ton of hard work to be an immigrant, trying to not stick out and hope to get your child a better life. When you have a child here, you are NOT anchored. You will still get deported. You will get the choice to leave the child with a legal family member or take them back to the land they fled originally... Now with little roots to even help them. 

If the CHILD gets SNAP benefits - it is hardly milking the system. It is the barest of needs to nourish a CHILD. 

https://yourtexasbenefits.hhsc.texas.gov/programs/snap 

With a single child family eligible - the house can only make less than $1700 a month to quality for food assistance of $192 for the whole month. What a deal! Well worth the anchor. 

Go ahead, dehumanize struggling families if it makes you feel better. It certainly doesn't help your cause though. 

 

[Censored by Laurie]

3 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

Obama didn't provide anything for three years.  That's a lot of time for conspiracy theories.

conspiracy theories borne from nothing but his skin color and funny name, not a history of bankruptcies, failed businesses and a penchant for inflating considerably his personal wealth.  not to mention it has been a, usually as little more than placating window-dressing, a concession made by all presidential candidates for 50 years.  

but ok. I found an article dated 4/27/2011 entitled "Obama releases long-form birth certificate"...assuming that is the correct date, by my math that is 807 days into his presidency. it is day 537 of the Trump presidency, so he has 270 days to square things and you get to maintain intellectual consistency. 

I'll be sure to set an alert