JJ Murray, Eastfield College

Marty · June 23, 2018

scratch1976 · June 23, 2018

Walk on?

Andrew · June 23, 2018

Another tiny guard? Hope he is a walk on.

MeanGreenTexan · June 23, 2018

Walk-on?

If McCasland can convince a JUCO All-American to walk-on, we’re doing very good!

GrandGreen · June 23, 2018

1 hour ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Walk-on?

If McCasland can convince a JUCO All-American to walk-on, we’re doing very good!

Eastfield is a DIII jc that doesn't offer scholarships, so he could very well be a walk-on.

Harry · June 23, 2018

Welcome JJ!!

Wag Tag · June 24, 2018

Congrats to all! GMG

MCMLXXX · June 24, 2018

6 hours ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

Walk-on?

If McCasland can convince a JUCO All-American to walk-on, we’re doing very good!

JUCO division III All American. Why would we offer a scholarship to a JUCO non scholarship athlete? Do you need a link? Andrew is right.

Here is your link.

http://www.njcaa.org/member_colleges/Divisional_Structure

Edited June 24, 2018 by MCMLXXX

GrayEagle · June 24, 2018

29 minutes ago, MCMLXXX said:

JUCO division III All American. Why would we offer a scholarship to a JUCO non scholarship athlete? Do you need a link? Andrew is right.

Here is your link.

http://www.njcaa.org/member_colleges/Divisional_Structure

Just because there are no scholarships in Division III doesn't mean that there is no grant in aid for those athletes. I've read that approximately 98% of college athletes are not on scholarship. If there are going to be athletic teams at the lowest level there must be aid or the sports would soon die out.

As to Murray, I would totally trust GMac's evaluation of his abilities. It seems that level of competition, in many cases, would be at least the equivalent of high school and we give scholarships at that level. I believe that Murray had a scoring average of just under 19 points, a 40% 3-point shooting average and and a free throw average of more than 70%. Coach McCasland has had considerable successful experience dealing with lower level basketball players and I'm not going to start doubting him now.

Marty · June 24, 2018

played at Rowlett HS:

https://www.hudl.com/profile/3455766/JJ-Murray

GrandGreen · June 24, 2018

10 hours ago, GrayEagle said:

Just because there are no scholarships in Division III doesn't mean that there is no grant in aid for those athletes. I've read that approximately 98% of college athletes are not on scholarship. If there are going to be athletic teams at the lowest level there must be aid or the sports would soon die out.

As to Murray, I would totally trust GMac's evaluation of his abilities. It seems that level of competition, in many cases, would be at least the equivalent of high school and we give scholarships at that level. I believe that Murray had a scoring average of just under 19 points, a 40% 3-point shooting average and and a free throw average of more than 70%. Coach McCasland has had considerable successful experience dealing with lower level basketball players and I'm not going to start doubting him now.

It is not clear whether this is a scholarship offer or not. The way it is worded, will be joining the program, I suspect it is a walk-on offer. I have not seen anyone question McCasland's ability to find players.

Scholarship or not, he should help the program and be a good match for McCasland's preferred game style.

Wag Tag · June 24, 2018

On 6/23/2018 at 3:11 PM, Andrew said:

Another tiny guard? Hope he is a walk on.

League is full of successful tiny guards!

scratch1976 · June 25, 2018

Don't forget Spud Webb 5'7" .. who was committed to North Texas until new North Texas coach who came right out of high school Newman got hired at North Texas and told Spudd he wasn't big enough. The rest history went on to win National Championship at North Carolina St. and play in NBA.

ADLER · June 25, 2018

"until new North Texas coach who came right out of high school Newman"

Tommy Newman was head coach at Texas Wesleyan when he was hired at North Texas. Prior to that he had been an assistant at Baylor for 5 years.

The rest is accurate, as Tommy was guilty of pulling Webb's scholarship offer, stating "I don't give scholarships to 5-'6" players".

Harry · June 25, 2018

Wow that Newman call on Spud might make a top 10 of All Time boneheaded UNT decisions.

KRAM1 · June 25, 2018

58 minutes ago, Harry said:

Wow that Newman call on Spud might make a top 10 of All Time boneheaded UNT decisions.

As Newman will go down in UNT athletic history as one of the worst B.B. coaches UNT has ever hired.

BillySee58 · June 25, 2018

8 hours ago, ADLER said:

"until new North Texas coach who came right out of high school Newman"

Tommy Newman was head coach at Texas Wesleyan when he was hired at North Texas. Prior to that he had been an assistant at Baylor for 5 years.

The rest is accurate, as Tommy was guilty of pulling Webb's scholarship offer, stating "I don't give scholarships to 5-'6" players".

Sounds like Dan Mccarney wanting all of his prototypical-sized OL, WRs, and QBs. I think the only QBs under 6'2" who Mccarney offered here were Mcnulty and JT Barrett. I know you have to be smart to become a head coach at the Division 1 level, but it's amazing how stupid some of these coaches are by excluding players because of their height/size.

Mccarney signed 8 QBs who combined to win just 5 of their starts and threw for 3,500 career yards and 19 TDs. Fine by himself threw for more than that in his sophomore season, and Mccarney would've never given him a look because of his size.

As for Murray, there has been no official release on him signing so it may be as a walkon.

Edited June 25, 2018 by BillySee58

TheColonyEagle · June 25, 2018

14 hours ago, scratch1976 said:

. The rest history went on to win National Championship at North Carolina St. and play in NBA.

I belive he went Juco and showed up at NC State the year after they won the NC. He did win a NC in juco at Midland. Had 36 points in the finals if my google skills are sufficient....

Left juco in '83 and went to NC State in 84?

Edited June 25, 2018 by TheColonyEagle

GrandGreen · June 26, 2018

On 6/25/2018 at 1:44 PM, TheColonyEagle said:

I belive he went Juco and showed up at NC State the year after they won the NC. He did win a NC in juco at Midland. Had 36 points in the finals if my google skills are sufficient....

Left juco in '83 and went to NC State in 84?

Blakeley, I believe offered Spud out of high school, but I don't think he had the academics. Blakeley also recruited him out of juco, and then was replaced by Newman who didn't want Webb. Webb was not highly recruited out of juco and it was surprising when he signed with North Carolina.

i couldn't believe Newman was stupid enough to pass on Spud. It is not like Newman's recruiting was any good and if nothing else Webb would have been a draw just to see a 5'7 player who could so easily dunk.