Judge rules NCAA must defend limits on compensation to college athletes

[Coach Bill Lewis]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/fe55d954-06...efend.html

If P5’s can start paying players it is going to be a 5hitshow for G5’s to keep up!

 

[GTWT]

The NCAA President, Mark Emmert, says paying football & basketball payers will end non-revenue sports.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/01/mark-emmert-we-cant-pay-football-and-basketball-players-because-it-would-kill-non-revenue-sports/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

[CMJ]

28 minutes ago, GTWT said:

The NCAA President, Mark Emmert, says paying football & basketball payers will end non-revenue sports.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/04/01/mark-emmert-we-cant-pay-football-and-basketball-players-because-it-would-kill-non-revenue-sports/?cid=eref:nbcnews:text

I tend to agree honestly.

[Mean Green 93-98]

The thing is, you know this discussion is going to focus on Alabama, Ohio State, Michigan, and all the schools bringing in bucketloads of cash rather than UNT and the vast majority of schools whose ticket sales and TV dollars don't come anywhere near supporting their athletic programs as they presently exist.

[TreeFiddy]

If you want to get paid for playing sports, skip college and turn professional.  It looks like football will soon have an option, basketball has the G league, and baseball has the minors.  Trying to support the olympic model in an NCAA setting is very problematic and would put companies, especially public companies, in all sorts of conflicts of interest if they try to pay college players due to university affiliation. 

I don't blame NCAA for not wanting to open up the olympic model can of worms.  This is going to have to work without paying players above cost of attendance.

[Salsa_Verde]

I think the powers that be could work it to where  a program earning over a certain amount has to have some kind of payout to the “student-athletes” while any program that doesn’t meet that amount is exempted. It sounds like a tax on winning now that I think about it. So probably no way it ever happens  

Edited April 1, 2018 by Salsa_Verde

[Graddean]

Can of worms.  If you pay, does that make the total grant taxable? The average cost of attendance for a state school is $25,000 and private schools $50,000.  Will the athlete be covered by workman's comp?  Obviously, if you pay more than cost of attendance, they are employees.  If you can't limit to cost of attendance, can you limit how much they are paid.  

[El Paso Eagle]

So in the future, we could see many schools with only men's Football and Basketball and an equal number of women's scholarships (Title 9). You may also see a lot of schools dropping football. 

How many will chance sitting the bench at a P5 versus the "lower pay" of a G5

In the end, a lot of men and women will lose the opportunities. The end of college sports is on the way.

[Cerebus]

16 hours ago, El Paso Eagle said:

The end of college sports is on the way.

"College Sports" died on June 27th, 1984.  

The Supreme Court decided NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma in favor of OU and the rest of the CFA because of restraint of trade.  

From that point on money flooding into athletics, not only corrupting the school but the NCAA itself, was inevitable.   The NCAA before this decision was, believe it or not, more or less interested in keeping the playing field fair-ish.   Actions like implementing scholarship limits and actively trying to police improper benefits were things that helped the smaller schools against the bigger schools.  When was the last time something like that happened?

After that ruling the balance of power tipped to the power universities.  They are the ones that started to call the shots and name who got the roles in the organization.  The purpose of the NCAA changed to generating a large and larger revenue stream and then protecting who got access to that stream.  

I find it laughable that a billion dollar institution, that:

• writes rules to aside a special group of schools to define the rules for the other member institutions,
• controls access to the basketball tournament in a way that is clearly favoring power institutions,
• won't even create a football playoff with any real access to non power schools, 
• pays millions of dollars to top executives,
• lets decade long major academic fraud schemes controlled by athletics slide,
• refuses to enforce rules consistently against power and non power institutions,

cries about the end of amateurism.  You killed it.   The power schools killed it by wanting that TV money and then becoming the watchmen.  Then they rewrote the rule book and instituted changes that cemented their place at the top.  So that their member institutions could rake in tens of millions a year.  

If it's time for the NCAA to die, good riddance.  

[FirefightnRick]

3 hours ago, Cerebus said:

"College Sports" died on June 27th, 1984.  

The Supreme Court decided NCAA v. Board of Regents of the University of Oklahoma in favor of OU and the rest of the CFA because of restraint of trade.  

From that point on money flooding into athletics, not only corrupting the school but the NCAA itself, was inevitable.   The NCAA before this decision was, believe it or not, more or less interested in keeping the playing field fair-ish.   Actions like implementing scholarship limits and actively trying to police improper benefits were things that helped the smaller schools against the bigger schools.  When was the last time something like that happened?

After that ruling the balance of power tipped to the power universities.  They are the ones that started to call the shots and name who got the roles in the organization.  The purpose of the NCAA changed to generating a large and larger revenue stream and then protecting who got access to that stream.  

I find it laughable that a billion dollar institution, that:

• writes rules to aside a special group of schools to define the rules for the other member institutions,
• controls access to the basketball tournament in a way that is clearly favoring power institutions,
• won't even create a football playoff with any real access to non power schools, 
• pays millions of dollars to top executives,
• lets decade long major academic fraud schemes controlled by athletics slide,
• refuses to enforce rules consistently against power and non power institutions,

cries about the end of amateurism.  You killed it.   The power schools killed it by wanting that TV money and then becoming the watchmen.  Then they rewrote the rule book and instituted changes that cemented their place at the top.  So that their member institutions could rake in tens of millions a year.  

If it's time for the NCAA to die, good riddance.  

Right on!

 

Rick

[TreeFiddy]

Maybe I am missing something, but I really don't see how universities can be forced to pay more than a full ride and I don't really see how a state school would be allowed to pay more even if they wanted to.  It just seems like a lawsuit waiting to happen.

However, I can see NCAA being forced to allow student athletes to earn as much money as they are able while attending school just like any other student has the opportunity to do.