GAME CHANGER

[meangreenbob]

THE STUDENT FEE!   WE NEED THAT MONEY IN LIEU OF THE LOST TV REVENUE. I heard on the news it would be around 3.125 Million. Dr. Smatresk and Wren Baker would take that amount and increase its purchasing power two fold just by making intelligent and wise decisions.

[MGNation92]

Does this mean it passed? Or are we still waiting on the results?

[ipd054]

"UNT's student government is scheduled to meet during the first week of the spring semester to certify the election results. That meeting will take place the third week of January." - Brett Vito in DRC article titled Results of vote on UNT athletic fee delayed Dec 7 2017.

[Ben Gooding]

I'm sorry, but having students, more specifically UNT students, with this kind of power over athletics is absurd. Are we doing this out of respect to the student body? Or does it have to be done in this manner. If not, cut the small talk, pull the rug out from underneath their bleeding hearts, and get it done. 

[wardly]

So are  you saying that athletics is about the alumni and not the student body?

[Ben Gooding]

48 minutes ago, wardly said:

So are  you saying that athletics is about the alumni and not the student body?

Greater good for the greater number. 

[Hunter Green]

Just now, Ben Gooding said:

Greater good for the greater number. 

"The needs of the many, outweigh the needs of the few."

[Wag Tag]

Ah this is what’s happening in the world! You read a head line and you act like an expert! 

[SAGreenFan]

4 hours ago, Ben Gooding said:

I'm sorry, but having students, more specifically UNT students, with this kind of power over athletics is absurd. Are we doing this out of respect to the student body? Or does it have to be done in this manner. If not, cut the small talk, pull the rug out from underneath their bleeding hearts, and get it done. 

Since the students are the ones paying for the fee either from mom and dad or mounting student loans, they should absolutely get a voice by vote. The athletics fee is the only fee they have control of.  The university raises tuition and fees all the time whether the students like or not.  

Edited January 13, 2018 by SAGreenFan

[GrayEagle]

4 hours ago, SAGreenFan said:

Since the students are the ones paying for the fee either from mom and dad or mounting student loans, they should absolutely get a voice by vote. The athletics fee is the only fee they have control of.  The university raises tuition and fees all the time whether the students like or not.  

Exactly...and why should this be any different?  Do the students decide if the university wants to increase funding for research?  Or to building another classroom?  Or hiring distinguished professors?  Or to buy new lab equipment?  The list can go on and on and this should be no different.  The final decision should be up to the Board of Regents.  They are the ones that approve of the budget.  

Athletics are the closest alumni tie to the university and denial could adversely affect alumni giving.  True, it could also influence the decision of prospective students but if we remain competitive with other Texas universities we will likely lose very few students.  There are limits on the amount of athletic fees that can be charged in Texas by state institutions.

Edited January 13, 2018 by GrayEagle
sentence clarification

[wardly]

I would think that it the students votes to tax themselves for athletics that it might indicate a willingness to support the programs. On the other hand if it is pushed  down throat it might have the opposite effect. Just guessing....

[Hunter Green]

12 hours ago, SAGreenFan said:

Since the students are the ones paying for the fee either from mom and dad or mounting student loans, they should absolutely get a voice by vote. The athletics fee is the only fee they have control of.  The university raises tuition and fees all the time whether the students like or not.  

Then go to a school that has not made a commitment to being Tier One in athletics.

[Ben Gooding]

13 minutes ago, Hunter Green said:

Then go to a school that has not made a commitment to being Tier One in athletics.

 

[Ben Gooding]

3 hours ago, wardly said:

I would think that it the students votes to tax themselves for athletics that it might indicate a willingness to support the programs. On the other hand if it is pushed  down throat it might have the opposite effect. Just guessing....

It'd have a short term opposite effect, sure. But this year's freshmen, the year after, and after, or after, and so on and so forth won't care or even know of this.