Expectations for UTA game?

outoftown · December 3, 2017

Back in the lead with left 1:50 in the game UNT 58 UTA 57

ChristopherRyanWilkes · December 3, 2017

Tie game. 44 seconds left. Nail biter.

outoftown · December 3, 2017

UTA wins. I can see what people say about this team playing better than past seasons. But it also still needs to mature a bit. Consistency is kind of lacking, particularly on offense.

ChristopherRyanWilkes · December 3, 2017

UTA wins. Last seconds of the game. Disappointing loss.

Andrew · December 3, 2017

No clue why we would try to drive in there at the end. Just play for the last shot and take a three. Why would we want overtime with all the fouls and injuries. Great game up til the last 23 seconds. Just let Smart work the clock and take the three.

Edited December 3, 2017 by Andrew

Cooley · December 3, 2017

Didn't understand why you put the ball in Lawson's hand. That was Smart's play to tie or to win. When will the Russian kid be available?

DeepGreen · December 3, 2017

Are free throws still going to be an issue with this team? One player was 0-6.

ChristopherRyanWilkes · December 3, 2017

I predicted 7-7 OOC to mark improvement. Need an upset to achieve that now with the loss to UTRGV. This was a good one to do it, next good opportunity is San Diego.

Mean_Green09 · December 3, 2017

3 minutes ago, Andrew said:

No clue why we would try to drive in there at the end. Just play for the last shot and take a three. Why would we want overtime with all the fouls and injuries. Great game up til the last 23 seconds. Just let Smart work the clock and take the three.

They ran a set play to get him a 3. Didn’t work out.

TreeFiddy · December 3, 2017

No doubt, thought the play would be drive and kick. Didn't even see Smart sitting on the 3 point line. Only one I saw on the 3 was Holston. Odd play to draw up. Got to have Smart and Draper set up and be ready to shoot when Lawson drives.

GreenBacker · December 3, 2017

We were -18.5 underdogs. UTA’s only loss is to #25 (at the time) Alabama by 1. We coulda should woulda won this game and that’s after losing another ball handler to injury and having a crazy amount of touch fouls called. Also on the road with a decent crowd there for UTA. Cross has been building his program for years and does a great job there. We are young and don’t shoot well, but it’s obvious this program is headed in a better direction under McCasland. We lose this game by 20 with Benford.

Andrew · December 3, 2017

1 minute ago, Mean_Green09 said:

They ran a set play to get him a 3. Didn’t work out.

In what world is that a set play? We left 12 seconds on the clock. You don’t just decide the play isn’t working and drive to the basket. You play to win there and not go into overtime.

Andrew · December 3, 2017

Just now, GreenBacker said:

We were -18.5 underdogs. UTA’s only loss is to #25 (at the time) Alabama by 1. We coulda should woulda won this game and that’s after losing another ball handler to injury and having a crazy amount of touch fouls called. Also on the road with a decent crowd there for UTA. Cross has been building his program for years and does a great job there. We are young and don’t shoot well, but it’s obvious this program is headed in a better direction under McCasland. We lose this game by 20 with Benford.

I think it would be more tha 20. McCasland gets everything out of these young men.

drex · December 3, 2017

We lose the game by more than 20 under Benford.

Mean_Green09 · December 3, 2017

3 minutes ago, Andrew said:

In what world is that a set play? We left 12 seconds on the clock. You don’t just decide the play isn’t working and drive to the basket. You play to win there and not go into overtime.

They set a down screen for Smart coming off the baseline. It was covered and he kicked it back to Lawson.

The intial play was drawn up as a Smart 3.

Edited December 3, 2017 by Mean_Green09

Andrew · December 3, 2017

1 minute ago, Mean_Green09 said:

They set a down screen for Smart coming off the baseline. It was covered and he kicked it back to Lawson.

The intial play was drawn up as a Smart 3.

I have no doubt the initial intent was to get Smart for a three but with plenty of time left you kick it back and try to get the three. It was a dumb decision. Even attempting to get Smart a 3 so early was a bad idea.

FirefightnRick · December 3, 2017

Tough loss but dang McCasland can coach.

Rick

Cooley · December 3, 2017

At some point we will stop talking about Benford and the past. Doesn't matter if you lose by 30 or 3. It's clear that we are more competitive but we are not getting production out of some of McCasland's recruits; to get even better. There's only one for next year.

Cooley · December 3, 2017

19 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I have no doubt the initial intent was to get Smart for a three but with plenty of time left you kick it back and try to get the three. It was a dumb decision. Even attempting to get Smart a 3 so early was a bad idea.

Agree 100% Andrew. That was the potential upset. Anyway, at least we can debate a potential winner. That's progress.

Andrew · December 3, 2017

3 minutes ago, Cooley said:

At some point we will stop talking about Benford and the past. Doesn't matter if you lose by 30 or 3. It's clear that we are more competitive but we are not getting production out of some of McCasland's recruits; to get even better. There's only one for next year.

I had high expectations for Duffy, Miller; and Arikawe. Everything I read and watched made me feel like they would contribute immediately. Our Freshman are out shinning the JUCO’s.

Andrew · December 3, 2017

3 minutes ago, Cooley said:

Agree 100% Andrew. That was the potential upset. Anyway, at least we can debate a potential winner. That's progress.

It’s progress. I know McCasland is not into moral victories, but these past two games will pay dividends come conference play if we can stay healthy.

Mean_Green09 · December 3, 2017

1 minute ago, Andrew said:

I had high expectations for Duffy, Miller; and Arikawe. Everything I read and watched made me feel like they would contribute immediately. Our Freshman are out shinning the JUCO’s.

So Simmons is outshining Smart & Duffy? Duffy was working back from an injury and was starting to play really well.

Simmons has grown up but he isn’t outshining those two dudes.

Cooley · December 3, 2017

Agree. Coaching can only take you so far. You need horses.

Mean_Green09 · December 3, 2017

29 minutes ago, Andrew said:

I have no doubt the initial intent was to get Smart for a three but with plenty of time left you kick it back and try to get the three. It was a dumb decision. Even attempting to get Smart a 3 so early was a bad idea.

None of it was dumb. I’m fine with the early look bc if it isn’t there or he misses we have time for another shot or set up.

Lawson got a great look at the basket off his drive. Yeah I’d love to get the shot off for the upset, but we got the next best thing a quality look. And even off his miss there was time for a put back.

Cooley · December 3, 2017

4 minutes ago, Mean_Green09 said:

So Simmons is outshining Smart & Duffy? Duffy was working back from an injury and was starting to play really well.

Simmons has grown up but he isn’t outshining those two dudes.

I'm ok with Duffy but Andrew's point (I believe) is that he is a juco. Simmons was not expected to contribute as much as a thin true freshman that didn't play much in HS. My frustration was that we didn't go get a tested big man. Tope appears to be a bust as a juco big man.