Finally Got Our Guy

BillySee58 · November 19, 2017

After years of watching good QBs taking G5/Non-AQ conference teams to double digit win seasons, BCS bowls, and top 25 rankings, we finally got our guy. Guys like Ryan Dinwiddie, Jared Zabransky, and Kellen Moore at Boise, Alex Smith and Brian Johnson at Utah, Colt Brennan, Jordan Lynch, Austin Davis, Rakeem Cato, Brandon Doughty, Case Keenum, and the list goes on.

All these guys at other schools and we finally got ours. All because we had a coach who was willing to look past height and realize that a QB with prototypical height who was actually a good QB was going to be hard to find, so getting a great one who was undersized was more likely.

eulessismore · November 19, 2017

1 minute ago, BillySee58 said:

After years of watching good QBs taking G5/Non-AQ conference teams to double digit win seasons, BCS bowls, and top 25 rankings, we finally got our guy. Guys like Ryan Dinwiddie, Jared Zabransky, and Kellen Moore at Boise, Alex Smith and Brian Johnson at Utah, Colt Brennan, Jordan Lynch, Austin Davis, Rakeem Cato, Brandon Doughty, Case Keenum, and the list goes on.

All these guys at other schools and we finally got ours. All because we had a coach who was willing to look past height and realize that a QB with prototypical height who was actually a good QB was going to be hard to find, so getting a great one who was undersized was more likely.

Yup, greatness, Littrell and Fine. And a Fine bromance.

southsideguy · November 19, 2017

11 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

After years of watching good QBs taking G5/Non-AQ conference teams to double digit win seasons, BCS bowls, and top 25 rankings, we finally got our guy. Guys like Ryan Dinwiddie, Jared Zabransky, and Kellen Moore at Boise, Alex Smith and Brian Johnson at Utah, Colt Brennan, Jordan Lynch, Austin Davis, Rakeem Cato, Brandon Doughty, Case Keenum, and the list goes on.

All these guys at other schools and we finally got ours. All because we had a coach who was willing to look past height and realize that a QB with prototypical height who was actually a good QB was going to be hard to find, so getting a great one who was undersized was more likely.

With the numbers that Fine is putting up we may start catching more eyes of QBS who love the air raid offense. They will have to wait a couple of years because he is going to better as junior and a senior.

Edited November 19, 2017 by southsideguy

ChristopherRyanWilkes · November 19, 2017

Wish I would have gone to the game now, but have a flight in about 8 hours for my honeymoon. Put the game on at the thirsty lion in Irving during dinner. At first I thought people would be mad they changed the channel from A&M game. Had several people come up to me in my UNT sweatshirt to say they were UNT alumni and were watching. More cheers than I expected in the bar during those last couple drives. The fan base is there, just have to tap it!

BTG_Fan1 · November 19, 2017

Fine lets hope leads to better skilled players coming here because of his #s and hopefully for the awards he can win as well...

He should be a 1st/2nd team QB in All-CUSA, and I would assume 1st if we can beat FAU.

AustinFromUNT · November 19, 2017

He just needs to hit at least 268 yards per game in the next 3 games to hit 4000 yards on the season.

Ben Gooding · November 19, 2017

Remember when Andrew McIowa was our starting QB going into a season. I remember.

golfingomez · November 19, 2017

he's our very own Timmy Chang!

Wag Tag · November 19, 2017

As stated before he will be our first All C- USA QB! Maybe MVP???

eulessismore · November 19, 2017

4 minutes ago, Ben Gooding said:

Remember when Andrew McIowa was our starting QB going into a season. I remember.

Strangely, that season may have led to this season, although there was some skepticism about hiring Littrell, with the emphasis on a high scoring offense. I think we just saw that what we need sometimes is just to outscore people.

Edited November 19, 2017 by eulessismore

Got5onIt · November 19, 2017

He’s the best QB I’ve seen at NT and I’ve been following for over 15 years. No, I’m not anointing Fine as Football Jesus, it just shows how bad QB play has been around here for a very long time....

BillySee58 · November 19, 2017

13 minutes ago, eulessismore said:

Strangely, that season may have led to this season, although there was some skepticism about hiring Littrell, with the emphasis on a high scoring offense. I think we just saw that what we need sometimes is just to outscore people.

Oh, it absolutely led to this. I remember going into the 2015 season Mccarney was seemingly untouchable, as was RV. Who knows how many 4-8/5-7 type seasons it would've taken to get Mccarney out? Much better in the long run that the 2015 season was a catastrophe and not just another bad team like 2014.

GrandGreen · November 19, 2017

1 hour ago, Got5onIt said:

He’s the best QB I’ve seen at NT and I’ve been following for over 15 years. No, I’m not anointing Fine as Football Jesus, it just shows how bad QB play has been around here for a very long time....

No, he is football Jesus

And I have been watching NT football for 50 years.

oldguystudent · November 19, 2017

Vizza talent. Thompson maturity. He's the whole package.

SilverEagle · November 19, 2017

Lots of "what if's" in the careers of great athletes. For instance, what if Fine's second "int' had not been wiped out by an off sides penalty?

Having said that, I don't think I've seen a QB at NT with as much ice in his veins and as much pure confidence in his ability to win a game regardless of the circumstances. Mitch Maher and Scott Davis are the two closest. Scott Hall and Jordan Case would be in there too.

And let me remind everyone that when Fine went down right before half in the Iowa game, his back-up had the team in the end zone in three plays. That took a bit of ice and confidence.

So, I would like to suggest that a great amount of credit for these games goes to a coaching staff that recognizes both talent and "intangibles" in the players that they both recruit and retain. Not to mention the assessment, coaching and development.

And finally, I would like to say that I've never seen a more talented group of receivers at North Texas. Fine knows that all of them will be where they are supposed to be. And that, more often as not, they will come down with the ball.

Wag Tag · November 19, 2017

6 hours ago, BillySee58 said:

Oh, it absolutely led to this. I remember going into the 2015 season Mccarney was seemingly untouchable, as was RV. Who knows how many 4-8/5-7 type seasons it would've taken to get Mccarney out? Much better in the long run that the 2015 season was a catastrophe and not just another bad team like 2014.

We will have 3 bowl games in the last 5 seasons! What happened in between SUCKED really bad. Undersized over achievers at qb is the key! GMG

Edited November 19, 2017 by Wag Tag

golfingomez · November 19, 2017

2 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

Lots of "what if's" in the careers of great athletes. For instance, what if Fine's second "int' had not been wiped out by an off sides penalty?

the only reason Fine threw that ball was because he knew he had the offsides penalty. that is his level of football IQ

UNTLifer · November 19, 2017

I am a big Fine fan, not only of the player but also of the person he appears to be. I would like to remind everyone of the family friend or faimly member that came on here last year and told us to be patient with Fine. We all owe that person an apology.

Really looking forward to the next couple of years.

Edited November 19, 2017 by UNTLifer

Ben Gooding · November 19, 2017

3 hours ago, SilverEagle said:

Lots of "what if's" in the careers of great athletes. For instance, what if Fine's second "int' had not been wiped out by an off sides penalty?

Having said that, I don't think I've seen a QB at NT with as much ice in his veins and as much pure confidence in his ability to win a game regardless of the circumstances. Mitch Maher and Scott Davis are the two closest. Scott Hall and Jordan Case would be in there too.

And let me remind everyone that when Fine went down right before half in the Iowa game, his back-up had the team in the end zone in three plays. That took a bit of ice and confidence.

So, I would like to suggest that a great amount of credit for these games goes to a coaching staff that recognizes both talent and "intangibles" in the players that they both recruit and retain. Not to mention the assessment, coaching and development.

And finally, I would like to say that I've never seen a more talented group of receivers at North Texas. Fine knows that all of them will be where they are supposed to be. And that, more often as not, they will come down with the ball.

He had the awareness to know that Army jumped offsides and knew he was getting a free play. He just heaved it to one of his guys in 1 on 1. Almost came down as a big completion for us, but move the stick up 5 yards for a re-do. He knew what he was doing. The 1st interception was bad....As in I screamed out NO when he threw it, and his hands went to his head when he threw it. He knew better.

keith · November 19, 2017

Chief is becoming a human highlight reel. He throws a very catchable ball and our receiving corps across the board are the best I can remember ever having and I've been following the team for a long time. We've had plenty of great receivers and go to guys throughout our history, but have we ever been this deep? So many weapons and they all have great hands and make clutch catches. It's been so much fun watching this team play ball.

LongJim · November 19, 2017

27 minutes ago, UNTLifer said:

I am a big Fine fan, not only of the player but also of the person he appears to be. I would like to remind everyone of the family friend or faimly member that came on here last year and We all owe that person an apology.

Well, not all of us. But point taken.

Probably a lot of folks owe Vito an apology.

Hahaha.

golfingomez · November 19, 2017

16 minutes ago, keith said:

Chief is becoming a human highlight reel. He throws a very catchable ball and our receiving corps across the board are the best I can remember ever having and I've been following the team for a long time. We've had plenty of great receivers and go to guys throughout our history, but have we ever been this deep? So many weapons and they all have great hands and make clutch catches. It's been so much fun watching this team play ball.

yup... so many options out there... Guyton goes down and on the very next drive Lawrence makes two HUGE catches to keep it rolling

Smiley with his best game of the year...

Bussey had another good night, but had his worst drop of the year when he dropped a TD ball that hit him in the numbers

Smith is the best safety valve you could ask for

it's a fun offense to watch

Got5onIt · November 19, 2017

8 hours ago, oldguystudent said:

Vizza talent. Thompson maturity. He's the whole package.

Meh, Vizza was ok I guess. I don’t remember jack squat about him since his stint was so short under Teflon Todd. Compare Fine to one of the great NT passers of yesteryear. One of these old farts will tell you who they are, ‘cause there were only 2-3 of them. 😄

Edited November 19, 2017 by Got5onIt

greenjoe · November 19, 2017

When Scott Davis was here I always felt that if he were in the game we had a chance to win. When Army came back and scored their last TD, my wife asked me if we could win. I knew Mason would find a way.

Thanks to Trevor as well.

Beat Rice

GO MEAN GEEEN

emmitt01 · November 19, 2017

4 minutes ago, greenjoe said:

When Scott Davis was here I always felt that if he were in the game we had a chance to win. When Army came back and scored their last TD, my wife asked me if we could win. I knew Mason would find a way.

Thanks to Trevor as well.

Beat Rice

GO MEAN GEEEN

Exactly. When Army was making their last drive @medpilot21 and I looked at eachother and said "just let them score so we can give Mason and the offense time to drive."