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28 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

It truly is a shame the Mayan's didn't get that report.

Rick

Yes, if the Mayans were doing something to cause the drought such a report may have led them to do something to ameliorate the effects of their behavior.  That would have been the intelligent thing for the Maya to do.  

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https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/01/150127-maya-water-temple-drought-archaeology-science/

https://www.livescience.com/24646-killer-drought-thwarted-maya-comeback.html

https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/Home/drought-and-the-collapse-of-mayan-civilisation

 

Maybe had the Mayan's had that report and everything else along with a few more sacrifices they could have turned it all around and Jerry Jones could have relocated the Cowboys there?

 

Rick

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20 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

 

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2015/01/150127-maya-water-temple-drought-archaeology-science/

https://www.livescience.com/24646-killer-drought-thwarted-maya-comeback.html

https://sites.google.com/site/medievalwarmperiod/Home/drought-and-the-collapse-of-mayan-civilisation

 

Maybe had the Mayan's had that report and everything else along with a few more sacrifices they could have turned it all around and Jerry Jones could have relocated the Cowboys there?

 

Rick

Rick, yes the consensus is that climate change (drought et al.) was at least partially responsible for the fall of the Mayan high civilization.  There's a difference between that event & the current one.  The drought in Central American had natural causes - what's happening today is anthropogenic.  We are causing it & we can do something about it.  

You may want to read the executive summary of the report we're discussing - https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

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1 hour ago, GTWT said:

Rick, yes the consensus is that climate change (drought et al.) was at least partially responsible for the fall of the Mayan high civilization.  There's a difference between that event & the current one.  The drought in Central American had natural causes - what's happening today is anthropogenic.  We are causing it & we can do something about it.  

You may want to read the executive summary of the report we're discussing - https://science2017.globalchange.gov/

You think we can get other polluting countries like China to go along and punish themselves with us, you know, to "do something about it"?

Rick

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24 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

You think we can get other polluting countries like China to go along and punish themselves with us, you know, to "do something about it"?

Rick

Do we really want to just point to the other guy and say, "well he's doing it, I should too", if we know it's wrong?

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1 hour ago, FirefightnRick said:

You think we can get other polluting countries like China to go along and punish themselves with us, you know, to "do something about it"?

Rick

Funny thing is, China hasn't backed out of the Paris Accord.

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4 hours ago, GTWT said:

Funny thing is, China hasn't backed out of the Paris Accord.

Why should they since they know they won't follow any of its agreements?

BTW, just so you know where the Whitehouse still stands in regards to the report that was released.

In a statement, White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said that “the climate has changed and is always changing” and pointed to a line in the report that concluded the future of climate change depends primarily on “remaining uncertainty in the sensitivity of Earth's climate to [greenhouse gas] emissions.”

The report said, with “very high confidence,” that the magnitude of climate change will also depend on the “amount of greenhouse gases emitted globally” over the next few decades.

“The administration supports rigorous scientific analysis and debate and encourages public comment on the draft documents being released today,” Shah said.

“To address climate change as well as other risks, the U.S. will continue to promote access to the affordable and reliable energy needed to grow economically, and to support technology, innovation and the development of modern and efficient infrastructure that will reduce emissions and enable us to address future risks, including climate related risks."

 

Rick

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"In a statement, White House Principal Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said that “the climate has changed and is always changing”..."

The White House has read the same Maya paper as you. 

"and pointed to a line in the report that concluded the future of climate change depends primarily on “remaining uncertainty in the sensitivity of Earth's climate to [greenhouse gas] emissions.”..."

Yes, it's funny how science works.  One must always acknowledge 'uncertainty'.

"The report said, with “very high confidence,” that the magnitude of climate change will also depend on the “amount of greenhouse gases emitted globally” over the next few decades."

In other words the report says that scientists have a mass of evidence that supports the conclusion that the earth is warming, that man is the primary cause, and that the rate, magnitude, & effects of change will be determined by how much fossil CO2 we pump into the atmosphere.

“The administration supports rigorous scientific analysis and debate and encourages public comment on the draft documents being released today,” Shah said.

This translates to, "The Trump administration will continue to obfuscate, deny, and caste doubt on any science that is counter to our economic, political, or ideological bias."

“To address climate change as well as other risks, the U.S. will continue to promote access to the affordable and reliable energy needed to grow economically, and to support technology, innovation and the development of modern and efficient infrastructure that will reduce emissions and enable us to address future risks, including climate related risks."

This simply means the Trump administration will continue to do what it pleases regardless of the consequences.

By the way, did you read where President Trump's Energy Secretary, Rick Perry, says fossil fuels can prevent rape in Africa?

http://nypost.com/2017/11/02/rick-perry-claims-fossil-fuels-can-prevent-rape-in-africa/

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1 hour ago, GTWT said:

 

By the way, did you read where President Trump's Energy Secretary, Rick Perry, says fossil fuels can prevent rape in Africa?

http://nypost.com/2017/11/02/rick-perry-claims-fossil-fuels-can-prevent-rape-in-africa/

No, and I have no idea in what context he was saying it in, if he did at all?  But it can't touch Obama mouthpiece Democrat Congressman Hank Johnson claiming the the Island of Guam will capsize.

 

Rick

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