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The weather is going to be pretty nice.
It's TX-OU weekend, so don't expect any of the fringe-casual fans to show up.   

However, it appears the AD has put on quite the offensive to drum up support from the students.  Let's hope it pays off!

Give me 23,144.

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So about the TX/OU game. 

I wonder how much that really affects our attendance. Does it really have a big impact? So do people that would normally go to Apogee go buy tickets and go to the TX/OU game? They're fans of TX or OU? They're big college football fans? 

I just don't know how many people that would otherwise be in Denton make it an annual thing to go to that game? 

I mean does that affect what, 200 people maybe ?More than that?

I'm honestly asking because I don't know. Maybe I'm way off but I don't understand why that has such an impact in UNT home games. Are there that many die hard TX or OU fans in Denton? 

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21 minutes ago, Green Crazy said:

i don't think we could ever really know the buts in seats answer. 

somebody does they scan all the tickets. But its not hard to tell I go to enough events to tell full from 3/4s full to half full or less. 

I hope we sell it out and have Apogee busting at the seams, so loud those prairie chickens will have ringing ears for a week. 

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33 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

So about the TX/OU game. 

I wonder how much that really affects our attendance. Does it really have a big impact? So do people that would normally go to Apogee go buy tickets and go to the TX/OU game? They're fans of TX or OU? They're big college football fans? 

I just don't know how many people that would otherwise be in Denton make it an annual thing to go to that game? 

I mean does that affect what, 200 people maybe ?More than that?

I'm honestly asking because I don't know. Maybe I'm way off but I don't understand why that has such an impact in UNT home games. Are there that many die hard TX or OU fans in Denton? 

When were you a student?
Were there tons of Big12/SEC teams' gear all over campus when you were there?    When I was on campus back in the early aughts, there was probably a 3:1 ratio of Big12/SEC:UNT gear sported by the students.

Recalling (or now understanding) that, does it make more sense that a game between Texas and Oklahoma would garner more interest from the casual fans?   There are lots of Craig Millers out there.

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41 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

So about the TX/OU game. 

I wonder how much that really affects our attendance. Does it really have a big impact? So do people that would normally go to Apogee go buy tickets and go to the TX/OU game? They're fans of TX or OU? They're big college football fans? 

I just don't know how many people that would otherwise be in Denton make it an annual thing to go to that game? 

I mean does that affect what, 200 people maybe ?More than that?

I'm honestly asking because I don't know. Maybe I'm way off but I don't understand why that has such an impact in UNT home games. Are there that many die hard TX or OU fans in Denton? 

I would say it MAY keep away a couple hundred fans. It's just low hanging fruit for our fan base to blame our troubles on. 

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40 minutes ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

When were you a student?
Were there tons of Big12/SEC teams' gear all over campus when you were there?    When I was on campus back in the early aughts, there was probably a 3:1 ratio of Big12/SEC:UNT gear sported by the students.

Recalling (or now understanding) that, does it make more sense that a game between Texas and Oklahoma would garner more interest from the casual fans?   There are lots of Craig Millers out there.

I was there in the late 90s early '00s. Yes I saw a lot of UT, A&M shirts. I would argue those types didn't go to the UNT games anyway. And of those that did.....what % of those wearing those shirts took it to the next level and actually went to the TX/OU game?

I just don't think it was large numbers. 

And likewise, I just don't see a LARGE number of people that may live in Dallas or other areas around whose choice is go to the UNT game or go to the Cotton Bowl.  "Every other Saturday I would go to UNT but today I'm gonna go to TX/OU." Doesn't add up to me.

Again....if that's the case, it CAN'T be more than a couple hundred people. My point is, there are 100 other excuses to not go to Apogee.....TX/OU seems like one that's way down the list. So yes I'm sure it happens,  but I think the impact has to be minimal.

As for the topic of the thread: I am more confident in the team overcoming past results vs our opponent this week than I am our attendance overcoming past results. We're heading in the right direction but have some work to do. 

22,500

And of course I hope I'm wrong 

 

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Let's see, the game is being televised locally...WTH, why?  And there will be some sort of ticketing, congestion, long line "issue."  Both will cause attendance to be lighter than it could be.  I'm going with 24,002. 

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1 hour ago, KingDL1 said:

somebody does they scan all the tickets. But its not hard to tell I go to enough events to tell full from 3/4s full to half full or less. 

I hope we sell it out and have Apogee busting at the seams, so loud those prairie chickens will have ringing ears for a week. 

True, but I've gone through unscanned before 

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The Green Brigade supporters will be out in full force to show their love after the NT Daily story dared to say something that wasn’t positive...we will get 29k from them, as they forget that this actually helps athletics 

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31 minutes ago, TheColonyEagle said:

I was there in the late 90s early '00s. Yes I saw a lot of UT, A&M shirts. I would argue those types didn't go to the UNT games anyway. And of those that did.....what % of those wearing those shirts took it to the next level and actually went to the TX/OU game?

I just don't think it was large numbers. 

And likewise, I just don't see a LARGE number of people that may live in Dallas or other areas around whose choice is go to the UNT game or go to the Cotton Bowl.  "Every other Saturday I would go to UNT but today I'm gonna go to TX/OU." Doesn't add up to me.

Again....if that's the case, it CAN'T be more than a couple hundred people. My point is, there are 100 other excuses to not go to Apogee.....TX/OU seems like one that's way down the list. So yes I'm sure it happens,  but I think the impact has to be minimal.

As for the topic of the thread: I am more confident in the team overcoming past results vs our opponent this week than I am our attendance overcoming past results. We're heading in the right direction but have some work to do. 

22,500

And of course I hope I'm wrong 

 

That's not the fans I'm talking about.    I'm talking about the: "Every other Saturday I might consider going to UNT, but today I'm definitely going to watch TX/OU."    Considering there are, what? 200k alumni in the Metroplex, that number could potentially be large.
We don't have the same attendance every game.  It ebbs & flows.  The kind of fan I'm talking about is a big part of that.

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1 minute ago, MeanGreenTexan said:

That's not the fans I'm talking about.    I'm talking about the: "Every other Saturday I might consider going to UNT, but today I'm definitely going to watch TX/OU."    Considering there are, what? 200k alumni in the Metroplex, that number could potentially be large.
We don't have the same attendance every game.  It ebbs & flows.  The kind of fan I'm talking about is a big part of that.

And you think that's more than a couple of hundred people?

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1 hour ago, UNTcrazy727 said:

I would say it MAY keep away a couple hundred fans. It's just low hanging fruit for our fan base to blame our troubles on. 

I think a couple of hundred or so is the number who don't come because of TX/OU. The folks who prefer to follow BigXII/SEC don't go to out games in any large numbers any how - having TX/OU just means to people who weren't going to come anyway have yet another excuse. 

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