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24 minutes ago, FirefightnRick said:

Not sure it means much towards overall attendance, but there are several alumni sick to death of our history of zero to no accountability, who are still waiting for a proper house cleaning.

 

Rick

Who must go to make them happy?

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15 hours ago, MeanGreenMailbox said:

As posted yesterday, fans of schools that win plan their vacations/holidays to include taking in the game.  For some, it is the destination.  RVs of diehard fans show up midweek in places like Tuscaloosa and Norman.  We are not there yet.  We need to do a lot of winning.

And, I mean, a lot of winning.  I don't mean "playing better than last year," "hanging in there with (P5) for a quarter or half," "went 5-8, qualifying for a bowl because the last staff did its job in getting the players' to pay attention to academics."

We are an afterthought even to most of our own alumni and former students because we lose so often.  It's a real battle.  Most of us will always attend.  But, we're not the target.  The target is those not at Apogee with us.

Holidays can't be an excuse.  We have to quit the excuses.  If people can find a way to vacation around Norman, OK/OKC, then surely they can find a way to vacation around Denton, TX/DFW.  Denton and Norman are both about 30-40 miles from Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington and OKC respectively. 

I'll say this while we're discussing it, I've never understood why as a music school, with bands galore, there isn't more done in conjunction with local music venues to have live music or advertise places to go after the game.  Am I crazy to try to, maybe, tie the One O'Clock Lab Band, for instance, into a weekend experience here? 

Just trying to think "outside the box" for something that really shouldn't be "outside the box" for our school.  How can we marry up an area where we're the best with an area we are trying to improve.  Can we really not help ourselves here, even with programs within our own university?

I think that you've just got a huge amount of disinterest and actual loathing of football within the university's circle of influence that feeds attendance. I'm not talking about the BOR or President, but I am talking about the faculty, alumni, student body, and local citizenry. They just don't want to provide any help here because it's either not cool to them, it's considered beneath them, or they literally hate that the sport exists here. It's the reality of being a school known for fine arts and low cost tuition with lots of losing. It affects attendance, media coverage, recruiting, etc...I just don't think you'll get to see the collaboration you mentioned anytime soon. It's just not real important to those folks over in the areas we are well known for.

 

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11 hours ago, Aquila_Viridis said:

I'd like to see what some of those would have been against Lamar instead. FAU has the Lane Kiffen mystique. SO Miss played Kentucky. And MT played their local rival Vanderbilt. This is not the time for bitching.

Actually we can bitch why our former AD decided to schedule such a poor FCS opponent versus a lower G5, who actually has some name recognition, or a better FCS, granted we would have been in trouble against a SHSU, UCA, type FCS.

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12 hours ago, Harry said:

I hear you, but the problem is we just have never consistently won ball games.  I am speaking more specifically to the modern era.  Yes there have been blips on the radar screen like Darrell Dickeys run in the Sun Belt, Macs one good season... but  we've had no signature wins. 

I don't agree with that Harry.  

I think the 4 bowl game years should have been consistent enough.  I think whipping any B12 team 52-14 should have been enough.  The unfortunate thing is the leadership we had at the time wasted those years by not taking advantage of the opportunity.  The consultants report that Dr. Smatresk commissioned told us everything we needed to know about how every advantage we ever got, even a brand new stadium, was frittered away.  

Plenty of conference mates have taken even less and used it to jump start something special.  

The only thing I can hope for now is that with the leadership we have, at the university and athletic levels, SL can spark something.  I think this leadership could do something with multiple conference championships in a row.  

Posted
13 hours ago, FirefightnRick said:

Not sure it means much towards overall attendance, but there are several alumni sick to death of our history of zero to no accountability, who are still waiting for a proper house cleaning.

 

Rick

While I understand where you are coming from on this, I think the bigger issue is that many more alumni literally never cared a second about watching us play because they were told not to care by our culture, tried to care but were given every reason that you mentioned above to no longer care, or just gave up waiting for something to happen that never does.

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