Frank Wilson appearance in Recruiting Violation Testimony

Caw Caw · August 25, 2017

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/8/25/16199394/leo-lewis-ncaa-ole-miss-mississippi-state Here's long article about a long story of recruiting violations for a specific player. I've highlighted the parts that pertain to the coach of our conference mate. It has to at least beg a few questions, right? It also highlights what a different game the P5 are playing. Not to beat the drum to heavily, but pay for play is happening already, might as well monitor it.

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"In August 10, 2016, Lewis and his lawyer, John Brady, met with Mike Sheridan of the NCAA enforcement staff in the Hilton Garden Inn in Starkville. According to documents obtained by SB Nation, Lewis spoke about the four schools he was primarily recruited by and the coaches and staffers he met: Ole Miss (Farrar and Tom Allen, now head coach of Indiana), LSU (Frank Wilson, now head coach of UTSA), Mississippi State (Tony Hughes, now head coach of Jackson State) and Alabama (Burton Burns)."

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"Counsel for Ole Miss submitted the video to the NCAA on Nov. 18, the same day of Leo’s second interview. In addition, an audio tape of an alleged conversation between Farrar and Lewis’ mother, Tina Henderson, was submitted by Farrar’s counsel after the November interview. In the audio tape, recorded on Feb. 2, 2015, a day before Lewis says Allen paid him $10,000 to sign with Ole Miss, Henderson allegedly told Farrar that she had received multiple cash offers for Lewis, including $650,000 from LSU and $80,000 from Mississippi State.

In the third meeting, Lewis confirmed his identity in the Snapchat video submitted by Ole Miss. Sheridan asked Brady and Lewis to listen to the tape alleging cash offers from LSU and Mississippi State and asked Leo, “were you personally offered any money from a school other than Ole Miss?”

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southsideguy · August 25, 2017

think UTSA is paying?

Ben Gooding · August 25, 2017

And the spineless NCAA will not do a damn thing. And if they do it will not be of substance.

We sit here playing by the rules, not even attempting to really walk into the gray area, while everyone is snapping the rules over their knee. Not playing be the rules has turned into the rules.

Full disclaimer: I am not advocating for the paying of players. I am advocating for the NCAA to rip the band-aid off by getting the 15-25 blueblood's the F out of collegiate athletics. They don't belong and haven't for decades now.

Monkeypox · August 25, 2017

20 minutes ago, southsideguy said:

think UTSA is paying?

KFC is.

UNTFan23 · August 25, 2017

I think every school in the SEC should be nervous. Everyone knows they're cheating.

DeepGreen · August 25, 2017

All of the top tier schools are paying players to sign. You can't convince me otherwise. There is so much money involved FBS football that paying players to sign has to be happening. Entice them to sign with a P5 program and they could be on their way to the NFL where the big bucks are there to be made.

Wilson is suspicious to me.

Caw Caw · August 25, 2017

37 minutes ago, UNTFan23 said:

I think every school in the SEC should be nervous. Everyone knows they're cheating.

Here's the deal, they are the most profitable organizations in the sport. They are so powerful they actually have their own separate representation that helps change the rules of the NCAA and college football. Everyone knows they are doing it, but despite the BS that comes out of the NCAA marketing, they don't give a damn about "student-athletes" (a legal term coined by NCAA legal counsel to avoid paying workers comp to injured players). They care about the almighty dollar. The structure of college athletics would have to change for their to be any real fall out.

Look at Baylor and the just the three players sitting in jail from rape cases, let's assume that's the surface of the problems while Briles was there. They've received ZERO sanctioning. Hugh Freeze was fired because he was caught dialing escort services multiple times while traveling to recruiting visits. Reggie Bush, the kid from this tape, old miami players.... ON AND ON AND ON it goes people telling how easy it is to get paid. They don't care.

untjim1995 · August 25, 2017

42 minutes ago, Caw Caw said:

Here's the deal, they are the most profitable organizations in the sport. They are so powerful they actually have their own separate representation that helps change the rules of the NCAA and college football. Everyone knows they are doing it, but despite the BS that comes out of the NCAA marketing, they don't give a damn about "student-athletes" (a legal term coined by NCAA legal counsel to avoid paying workers comp to injured players). They care about the almighty dollar. The structure of college athletics would have to change for their to be any real fall out.

Look at Baylor and the just the three players sitting in jail from rape cases, let's assume that's the surface of the problems while Briles was there. They've received ZERO sanctioning. Hugh Freeze was fired because he was caught dialing escort services multiple times while traveling to recruiting visits. Reggie Bush, the kid from this tape, old miami players.... ON AND ON AND ON it goes people telling how easy it is to get paid. They don't care.

They really don't care because they don't want to lose the golden goose. Baylor will get theirs, in due time. The others won't because they matter to the networks and to fans.

The NCAA cannot lose the Basketball tournament, as it provides something like 97% of their revenue. Because of that reality, they have ceded control of football to the networks, bowls, power conferences and the mega NFL-Lite and NBA-lite programs.

DeepGreen · August 25, 2017

P6 conferences paying a little "STFU" money to the NCAA top brass? Just saying......

Cr1028 · August 26, 2017

3 hours ago, Caw Caw said:

https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2017/8/25/16199394/leo-lewis-ncaa-ole-miss-mississippi-state Here's long article about a long story of recruiting violations for a specific player. I've highlighted the parts that pertain to the coach of our conference mate. It has to at least beg a few questions, right? It also highlights what a different game the P5 are playing. Not to beat the drum to heavily, but pay for play is happening already, might as well monitor it.

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"In August 10, 2016, Lewis and his lawyer, John Brady, met with Mike Sheridan of the NCAA enforcement staff in the Hilton Garden Inn in Starkville. According to documents obtained by SB Nation, Lewis spoke about the four schools he was primarily recruited by and the coaches and staffers he met: Ole Miss (Farrar and Tom Allen, now head coach of Indiana), LSU (Frank Wilson, now head coach of UTSA), Mississippi State (Tony Hughes, now head coach of Jackson State) and Alabama (Burton Burns)."

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"Counsel for Ole Miss submitted the video to the NCAA on Nov. 18, the same day of Leo’s second interview. In addition, an audio tape of an alleged conversation between Farrar and Lewis’ mother, Tina Henderson, was submitted by Farrar’s counsel after the November interview. In the audio tape, recorded on Feb. 2, 2015, a day before Lewis says Allen paid him $10,000 to sign with Ole Miss, Henderson allegedly told Farrar that she had received multiple cash offers for Lewis, including $650,000 from LSU and $80,000 from Mississippi State.

In the third meeting, Lewis confirmed his identity in the Snapchat video submitted by Ole Miss. Sheridan asked Brady and Lewis to listen to the tape alleging cash offers from LSU and Mississippi State and asked Leo, “were you personally offered any money from a school other than Ole Miss?”

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But board consensus says it's not possible that nefarious recruiting is how they beat us on signing day. The only reasonable answer is that Littrell sucks at recruiting, right?

And the fact that he hired a d-line coach with a show-cause isn't any indication of a willingness to skirt the rules either.

UTSA or FAU, who goes down first?

Edited August 26, 2017 by Cr1028

outoftown · August 26, 2017

4 hours ago, Cr1028 said:

UTSA or FAU, who goes down first?

FAU. There is just too many folks (not just coaches) who have been caught running afoul of one or another rule put together in one place at the same time. It cannot possibly breed a compliant culture. It is so glaringly obvious, that the AD has to be held responsible whenever the sanctions will come down, because it is obvious that the AD at FAU is not reigning Kiffin in. UTSA may do something wrong, but the amount of folks who have previously been caught and dinged is clearly lower. Even if these folks were to play dirty, then at the least they know better how to hide it than those at FAU.

Edited August 26, 2017 by outoftown